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[VistraNorrez]

Rathtar burped up a boot in this movie.

That whole sequence was probably the worst in the film. Why didn't Finn get eaten right away like everyone else? It could have been in the prequels easily.

 

[Syf]

Similarly, the nurse is just being a nurse. The joke's actually (at least that's how i took it) that she's talking to Chewie - big ass hairy monster who shoots gun - like a child who has an ouchie.

That's how I saw it too, really funny scene.

 

[Kagari]

I felt that was so fake, just like the Han crossbow scenes.

A lot of the callbacks felt that way to me after the 4th or 5th one and especially in the second half of the film.

 

[GungHo]

Why Harrison Ford wanted Han dead? Wasn't following the news.

He's wanted it since his salary negotiations for RotJ.

 

[Allard]

I had originally thought the big bad dark side of the force user would be a Vader apprentice, but he shows more confidence than Vader. I think it willl be revealed he was secret Palp apprentice.

I actually think its going to be someone further back then Palpatine. They put so much focus on Luke looking for the original Jedi Temple and at the end of the movie we see Rey and Luke meet on the planet that supposedly has the original. To me this points to something more primal/old world dating back generations before any of the previous movies, and likewise I think the main antagonist in Snoke is something related to that lost history, not to mention we have Maz Kanata, a pirate force user who supposedly has lived almost as long as Yoda did but wasn't a jedi. Then we have the title of the movie itself and the talk of Snoke about an awakening in the force. Something is happening on a galactic/universal scale that is related to the force but that few or any of the current characters seem to know what it is leading to but maybe characters like Snoke and Luke have hunches toward what is causing this 'awakening'.

 

[timewyrm]

What does EU stand for?

Expanded Universe. All the books and comics etc that released after ROTJ like the Thrawn Trilogy.

 

[entremet]

What does EU stand for?

Expanded Universe.

Basically Star Wars related fiction (novels, comics) that used to be canon. It was scrapped after the Disney acquisition.

 

[Kagari]

The EU is dead.



True, but that wasn't as egregious as the TPM fart joke, at least in my opinion.

But its soul lives on as seen in this very movie .

 

[Cybit]

Gone with the Wind had many re-releases that aren't detailed in that total. Cinema releases worked very differently back then.

It's still 1.7 BILLION FREAKING DOLLARS.

Also kinda cool that ANH is at about 1.5 billion.

 

[TangoAlphaLima]

What does EU stand for?

Expanded Universe. Essentially everything that was created outside the films.

 

[Frog-fu]

Interesting notion:

Chewie is Han's best friend.
Kylo is Han & Leia's kid.
No way Chewie wasn't there for Ben's birth.
It seems pretty plausible to me that Chewie probably held that kid shortly after he was born
Probably played with him when he was little.
Probably babysat him from time to time.

Chewie doesn't even fucking BLINK and puts a shot dead into what's more or less his nephew with one of the most OP guns in the film.

Chewie is hardcore.

Also it looks like there was a cut sequence with Unkar Plutt tracking the Falcon to Takodana and Chewie rips his fuckin arm off in the Cantina. It shows up in the novel.

Chewie is straight savage, but maybe he subconsciously to shoot Kylo in the gut. I think that'd be mildly interesting.

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

I feel like Hux should have been casted to be more like 40 and not 30. He just seems too young for the role.

Also, the speech before the weapon was fired might of been better if Snoke did it, his hologram that is.

 

[Ushojax]

I thought Hux was a bit too baby faced to be a general. Maybe as a captain or something, but a general should be more like Veers.

I think Snoke has purposefully chosen Hux and Kylo as his underlings, they are both, young, angry and easy to manipulate. I can see Kylo turning on both Hux and Snoke in the next movie and taking over as Supreme Leader.

 

[Mr Cola]

Got our first teaser 13 months or so before ep7, could be around the same time for ep 8 meaning April

Not too far away ya know

 

[LegendofLex]

Then we have the title of the movie itself and the talk of Snoke about an awakening in the force. Something is happening on a galactic/universal scale that is related to the force but that few or any of the current characters seem to know what it is leading to but maybe characters like Snoke and Luke have hunches toward what is causing this 'awakening'.

I think it's just Rey. She's clearly immensely powerful, and it's the only "awakening" we can point to that's actually witnessed during the movie.

 

[StormyTheRabbit]

I was super on board with the cinematography in that scene, too. Kylo being cast in red on one half and blue on the other while his decision remains ambiguous, and once he's "made up his mind" the blue light fades away entirely.

It was cheesey but goddamn did it work.

Well that light was motivated. That was when the sun was about to die as they were draining it. Mildly cheesy, but totally motivated.

"As long as there is still Light, there is hope."

Loved the double meaning of that line.

 

[TheOctodad]

This is why all the "friendzone" talk upthread is weird - there's kind of a disconnect between what the movie is showing and what audiences are interpreting. Rey isn't "friendzoning" (ugh) Finn all movie long. That nurse isn't "hitting on" Chewbacca. She's placating him. It's like a school nurse congratulating a 2nd grader for being a big boy after getting bactine on his knee.

Nerds don't understand romance.

Girl talking to you = hitting on you.

Not wanting to hold hands while getting shot at = friend zoned.

Source: I'm a nerd.

 

[OricWindstar]

Interesting notion:

Chewie is Han's best friend.
Kylo is Han & Leia's kid.
No way Chewie wasn't there for Ben's birth.
It seems pretty plausible to me that Chewie probably held that kid shortly after he was born
Probably played with him when he was little.
Probably babysat him from time to time.

Chewie doesn't even fucking BLINK and puts a shot dead into what's more or less his nephew with one of the most OP guns in the film.

Chewie is hardcore.

Also it looks like there was a cut sequence with Unkar Plutt tracking the Falcon to Takodana and Chewie rips his fuckin arm off in the Cantina. It shows up in the novel.

I fucking LOVED that and thought of that on my walk home.

I'd say this is easily the best Chewie movie. Dude gets some great laughs and some heartfelt moments.

 

[Maybesew]

Expanded Universe. Essentially everything that was created outside the films.

Expanded Universe.

Basically Star Wars related fiction (novels, comics) that used to be canon. It was scrapped after the Disney acquisition.

Expanded Universe. All the books and comics etc that released after ROTJ like the Thrawn Trilogy.

Thanks. I could figure out what it was relating to, but just didn't know the acronym. It still breaks my high school version of me heart that the Thrawn trilogy is no longer canon.

 

[Moff]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

maybe it's a brand new model!

 

[Fliesen]

snippedy snip

rather fantastic post.

 

[borghe]

I think it's just Rey. She's clearly immensely powerful, and it's the only "awakening" we can point to that's actually witnessed during the movie.

exactly.. not sure how I feel about it.. but they are clearly setting Rey up to be more powerful than Anakin.

 

[Violet_0]

really I'm just undecided whether it's the best or top 2 Star Wars movie in the series, despite whatever the hell the plot was. Scene-by-scene it's the most entertaining one of the bunch, and the cast is stellar

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

A lot of the callbacks felt that way to me after the 4th or 5th one and especially in the second half of the film.

My favourite one was Luke's old training aid. It was just some thing that was on the falcon in the original film and was still there in the latest.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Yeah, this really bugged me. For being one of the most legendary SW characters ever, the aftermath of his death felt very understated. IDK, just an extended shot of Leia grieving or something to really reinforce how sad this was would have made his death feel a little more real and final I think.

The aftermath of Han Solo's death being understated is nothing compared to how much they understated destroying an entire inhabited solar system that apparently contained the government and military of the Republic.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

maybe it's a brand new model!

It seems to be. Or at least it's been upgraded at some point

It sure as shit didn't do in the OT what it does in this movie

 

[Cimarron]

Did I miss the "I've seen your eyes! I know your eyes!" Line? I rememeber her saying 'I've seen your eyes' and then go on rambling about him being a man who wants to run.

Damn marketing. I thought that line was going to be some sort of significant reveal! When she started off I was like here it comes! oh well.

 

[longdi]

He really does look great. And he looked even better in the premiere than he did in his getup in this movie.

He really got into shape for Episode VIII. Kylo Ren vs. Luke atop some city in the clouds is inevitable.

I kinda chuckled when the camera panned up to show Luke reveal and i saw a Jedi tummy. I thought master jedis would practise the force to keep them slim and fit.

 

[Sephzilla]

Interesting notion:

Chewie is Han's best friend.
Kylo is Han & Leia's kid.
No way Chewie wasn't there for Ben's birth.
It seems pretty plausible to me that Chewie probably held that kid shortly after he was born
Probably played with him when he was little.
Probably babysat him from time to time.

Chewie doesn't even fucking BLINK and puts a shot dead into what's more or less his nephew with one of the most OP guns in the film.

Chewie is hardcore.

Shit, Chewie could straight up be Kylo's Godfather and Chewie still immediately said "nope, you gotta die".

 

[OmegaFax]

The biggest plot hole in the film is how after all these years this is somehow the first time Han has used Chewie's bowcaster.

So I wasn't the only person thinking that.

Not really.

Weapons are very personal things. You just don't use another someone else's personal arms.

Kept thinking to myself, "Yup, DL-44 + Bowcaster is OP". Thanks Battlefront boards.

He's wanted it since his salary negotiations for RotJ.

I thought it was something that was discussed in Empire Strikes Back as well. Instead of freezing him, they were going to kill him. If they were going to kill him at the end of Jedi, it'd be crazy to rescue him in the first act to just kill him again by the end of the last act.

 

[foxtrot3d]

The aftermath of Han Solo's death being understated is nothing compared to how much they understated destroying an entire inhabited solar system that apparently contained the government and military of the Republic.

Because everyone was crying over Alderaan in the OT?

 

[Ally of Justice]

I loved it. I just have a question. Who was the character that gave Poe the map to get to Luke?

 

[Tookay]

It's wildly better than the OT because it builds expertly on the established characters, not because of friggin callbacks.

The OT is brilliant. TFA is better because it takes what was established and updates and expands upon it.

It's also better because it completely redefines gender norms for an entire generation. It cannot be overstated how important this movie is, the impact it will have on how women and girls are perceived and perceive themselves for generations.

This is so hyperbolic.

 

[Einchy]

Got our first teaser 13 months or so before ep7, could be around the same time for ep 8 meaning April

Not too far away ya know

I wonder how the marketing will work because Rogue One and Episode 8 aren't that far apart. The marketing will probably have to overlap, I'd assume.

 

[Blader]

Domhnall Gleeson was really disappointing, hammed it up sooo much. The OT officers were snooty English people who believed themselves and the Empire above everyone else. The kind of assholes you know exist. Hux was just Scooby Doo villain quality.

Yeah, this was my biggest worry of the casting based on Ex Machina and Frank, and unfortunately it mostly came true. He was just too over the top, and kind of unbelievable that he'd even be in that position of power anyway.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Damn marketing. I thought that line was going to be some sort of significant reveal! When she started off I was like here it comes! oh well.

About 20 minutes that shouldn't have come out of this movie came out of this movie. I think a fair amount of trailer moments were in that 20.

 

[friskykillface]

Loved everything Chewie in this! He had some great reactions and moments.

Chewie the god

if he dies by Kylo

 

[Kagari]

My favourite one was Luke's old training aid. It was just some thing that was on the falcon in the original film and was still there in the latest.

Yeah I got a chuckle out of that. But a lot of the one-liners seemed forced.

 

[HUELEN10]

But its soul lives on as seen in this very movie .

This film is like a Legends story or inspired by? Wouldn't they have said that if it was actually the case?

 

[MisterHero]

Thought it was okay. Didn't like how Rey was basically handed Force powers, advanced fighting (which can be explained a little I suppose), and the Millennium Falcon in about half a movie. Besides that, I liked her and Finn. Poe was the coolest though.

Kylo Ren was a minor surprise. He was just as petulant as Anakin Skywalker but without the baggage of the prequels. He seems to be very bad at lightsaber fights even if they were well choreographed.

Snoke reminded me way too much of Lord of the Rings. Well, actually more like The Hobbit since orc/troll faces were handled with CG. It' be awesome if he really was 20 feet tall though

Guys.

Han's dead dead.

Harrison Ford is old. He wanted to die in ROTJ and now he got it.

He ded.

Nah, Phasma caught him and they're bringing him back as a bounty hunting android man

CGI face if they have to

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

I actually think its going to be someone further back then Palpatine. They put so much focus on Luke looking for the original Jedi Temple and at the end of the movie we see Rey and Luke meet on the planet that supposedly has the original. To me this points to something more primal/old world dating back generations before any of the previous movies, and likewise I think the main antagonist in Snoke is something related to that lost history, not to mention we have Maz Kanata, a pirate force user who supposedly has lived almost as long as Yoda did but wasn't a jedi. Then we have the title of the movie itself and the talk of Snoke about an awakening in the force. Something is happening on a galactic/universal scale that is related to the force but that few or any of the current characters seem to know what it is leading to but maybe characters like Snoke and Luke have hunches toward what is causing this 'awakening'.

I would love that, but I don't think it will happen.

 

[Mr Cola]

I kinda chuckled when the camera panned up to show Luke reveal and i saw a Jedi tummy. I thought master jedis would practise the force to keep them slim and fit.

Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is.

 

[Jokergrin]

Loved the movie. Just a few nitpicks:

- Raid guys were completely wasted

- Music was not memorable aside from some callbacks, none of the new tracks stood out

- Phasma was a disappointment

- another deathstar felt like a tired concept, and the trench run was nothing compared to new hope

- Snoke and Mas looked obviously CGI, not on the level of what we've seen in Dawn of Planet of the Apes

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Because everyone was crying over Alderaan in the OT?

This was of a slightly bigger scale.

But yeah, it's always been odd how little they cared about Alderran in the OT.

 

[NumberThree]

maybe it's a brand new model!

Good point. Movie redeemed!

 

[Maybesew]

I loved it. I just have a question. Who was the character that gave Poe the map to get to Luke?

Not sure. He considered Leia royalty, so possibly from Alderaan, and knew Kylo Ren's family history, so...i dunno

 

[Sectorseven]

The jokes about Chewie's crossbow worked, but only if you don't give it much thought. In 30 years Han Solo has never tried out the crossbow, or even noticed its power?

 

[NimbusD]

All of star wars happens in the same galaxy
Do you know how big a galaxy is ?

What's you're point?

Yes. That's my problem. They saw the beams from space. Galaxies are fucking huge. If they saw it in space from the ground, it doesn't make sense, it would have to be in their own solar system. If it was in their own solar system. They would have destroyed the sun (and everything else because, well, it's the sun).

 

[TheOctodad]

It seems to be. Or at least it's been upgraded at some point

It sure as shit didn't do in the OT what it does in this movie

30 years of upgrades and unlimited access to tech because you are a war hero = OP bowcaster.

 

[Moff]

It still breaks my high school version of me heart that the Thrawn trilogy is no longer canon.

it doesn't have to, because it never was canon.
that the EU is no longer canon is probably the biggest misinformation about star wars since the disney takeover.
the old EU was never canon, they crapped it so the new EU can finally be canon.
everything you read, play and watch from now on will be as legitimately canon as the big episodes. that is new, and it's awesome.