[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Einchy said:
Saw this on Reddit.

"Episode 8"

MS7g12Bl.jpg
Click to expand...

Lol
 
Wow, this thread is moving fast... question again:

Did they digitally alter Carrie Fisher's face to look more like her younger self? Or am I just crazy?
 
super-heated plasma said:
I actually need more space and vehicular combat in it. Also I am confused: There's the republic and the first order. Then there's the Resistance? Why doesn't the republic have its own army? They rely on some outside group to fight their battle for them? And if their not an outside group(but it really seems they are) then why would you call yourselves 'The Resistance' if your part of the legitimate government?

Ah well, I still loved the movie. I knew Han was going to die in this as soon as I learned Ford was reprising the role. Still hit me hard though. The entire theater went silent.
Click to expand...

The Republic demilitarized itself after getting rid of the Empire as a show of good faith for the planets that literally just got away from an oppressive, militarized government. They proceeded to fund the Resistance because you goddamn need a military after having just won a war.
 
Jellycrackers said:
I don't know what you mean by "None of that actually happened"... When everyone came outside and looked up to see Starkiller base being fired, you could see that Finn was in the process of boarding that ship, but they stopped to look up and watch the fireworks.

Finn never actually really left. He was just about to, but then things went sideways and he ended up being stuck there fighting the First Order forces that arrived. Once Finn saw Rey get taken, he decided to stay so he could help get her back. Next time they saw each other was when Rey hugged him for coming to rescue her.
Click to expand...

Huuuuuge mind blank for me then. I remember those scenes now.
 
Tookay said:
This is some vindictive ass shit.

They're a part of SW. They made integral changes and additions to the universe. Handwaving them away isn't going to solve anything.

And fetishizing the OT isn't helping either.
Click to expand...

I'm mostly kidding about remaking them, but I feel like stuff that happens actually WEAKEN vader and obi wan as characters. If you ignore the prequel trilogy, they're much stronger characters, I think.

But yeah, I can personally handwave them away and pretend they don't exist. Just like I can pretend the matrix sequels didn't happen. Hell, the x-men movies found a way to erase x-men 3 and origins CANONICALLY. Sometimes movies/sequels/prequels can actually weaken other existing ones in the series.
 
But why hide a child (for many years) on a shitty planet like Jakku? At least Obi-Wan was reasonable enough to bring Luke/Leia to caring families.
 
The film was really good, it lived up to the hype and had tons of heart. Also, the last act reminded me of Black Ops III >_>. Kylo Rens childish tantrums were some of my favorite parts. I knew Han Solo might not make it but it was still shocking when he got killed :/
 
99% sure Rey is a Skywalker. There is a lot of heavy handed hinting (the lightsaber, the character arc, the whole exceptionally gifted with both the force and technology) but R2D2 being in low power mode until she shows up is, like, basically definitive proof. He was waiting for her.

Also, whats strange is that Kylo would have certainly heard stories from Luke about how Darth Vader embraced the light side and saved the galaxy. Either Snoke was able to convince him Luke was a traitor, or Kylo is playing a Snape-esque long con where he is trying to become strong enough to kill Snoke himself, in Vaders image.
 
God. The movie has so many parallels to the original movie to the point that it's ridiculous.

A important member of the resistance/rebels put very important information into a droid and sends it off while he/she is captured by the enemy.

That person is tortured for information from a villain fully dressed in black.

Meanwhile, the droid is found by a young adventurer on a dessert planet yearing for something more.

They meet up with someone else who has important exposition and the two of them head out on an adventure.

They come across a smuggler by the name of Han Solo who helps them on their mission.

There's a swinging bar full of aliens.

The young adventurer finds out she/he may have the force and be on the path to be a Jedi, but resists.

They make it to the rebel/resistance base with the droid only to find out there's a giant space station the enemy has constructed that can destroy planets.

The Millenium Falcon and a bunch of X-Wings go to destroy the giant space station.

While on the space station, the young hero's mentor is killed by the villain in black.

The young hero accepts their fate and uses the force to help save the day.

The Millenium Falcon and X-Wings end up destroying the giant space station.

It even adds a beat from Empire as our young Jedi hero goes to an old master to properly learn the ways of the force.

Am I missing anything?
 
The only wrench in the "Rey is a Kenobi" thing for me is that trying to explain this to the audience would get really exposition heavy because you'd need to explain;

--When Obi-Wan found a wife/love
--What happened to her before A New Hope
--What happened to Obi-Wan's child/children before A New Hope
--Why Obi-Wan didn't train his own offspring to be Jedi
--What happened to Rey's parents
--Why Rey was left alone

That honestly might be too much to lay on an audience.
 
I'm honestly hoping the force awakens in Finn and he can become a Jedi. I'm really hoping they go with something different and have two people reach the same end. Finn just looked so fucking cool with that lightsaber. Same with Rey.

I feel like all the young actors are taking the torches of the original crew, but I can't quite place Finn. He doesn't seem to be taking the Han Solo role or Leia role. Poe seems to be taking both those torches. Rey is the next Luke obviously. Kylo next Vader type. Snoke being the next "Emperor" type. Finn though....I think the're gonna do something different with him. Just my observations.
 
You know, I don't really care who Rey's parents are. I mean clearly that'll be a plot point they explain at some point, but I feel that thematically, the way the movie was structured, it really doesn't matter, and the way it was done makes it not matter for me regardless of what the rest of the films do. Her character arc as introduced makes it clear that whoever her real parents are, whether it is Luke or otherwise, Luke will be the father she needs, and he could well be the "father" she had when she was young, if she was in his academy.

When we first meet her at the start, she's independent but desperately lonely. She clings to false hope because she wants to belong. She has a home but she doesn't have a pace to call home. Throughout the film she finds pieces which hints at her destiny, at where she belongs, but she's afraid to reach out and accept it until the end, because she still clings to that simpler false hope - that she can just wait and her parents will return to her. In the end she goes halfway across the galaxy with her new friends to find a man she only remembers hearing legends of , and at that moment she probably felt for the first time in her life that she actually made a step towards finding a place to belong.

So who cares who her parents really were?
 
Randdalf said:
I found it interesting how Kylo Ren was conflicted about not being dark enough, was killing his father the tipping point?
Click to expand...

I think so.

He was confronted with the same opportunity as Luke...to complete his transition to the dark side by killing his father. Obviously, Luke didn't do it but Kylo did.
 
eot said:
100% agree. Jakku was way better than the rest, and the final fight was really lacking in terms of cinematography I thought. Man, the first part of that Luke/Vader duel on Bespin, so damn good. Also, that real snow > fake snow.
Click to expand...

Not sure what you are implying? But in TFA pretty much all that snow and the majority of the trees is digital btw.
 
SubiyaCryolite said:
The film was really good, it lived up to the hype and had tons of heart. Also, the last act reminded me of Black Ops III >_>. Kylo Rens childish tantrums were some of my favorite parts. I knew Han Solo might not make it but it was still shocking when he got killed :/
Click to expand...
Kylo definitely has Anakin's blood, ha ha.
Although he refered to grandfather with Vader's mask, is it because of Leia? I guess that makes sense.
 
Violet_0 said:
I don't think that was ever brought up in the movie, though. I only heard of it in the pre-release discussion
Click to expand...

No, but when the director himself says it flat out, I think it clears things up pretty well.
JJ Abrams said:
“Kylo Ren is not a Sith. He works under Supreme Leader Snoke, who is a powerful figure on the Dark Side of the Force.”
Click to expand...
 
Sephzilla said:
The only wrench in the "Rey is a Kenobi" thing for me is that trying to explain this to the audience would get really exposition heavy because you'd need to explain;

--When Obi-Wan found a wife/love
--What happened to her before A New Hope
--What happened to Obi-Wan's child/children before A New Hope
--Why Obi-Wan didn't train his own offspring to be Jedi
--What happened to Rey's parents
--Why Rey was left alone

That honestly might be too much to lay on an audience.
Click to expand...

The time line would not make sense. She is the daughter of skyywalker. It will be revealed in the next movie as will what happened to her mom
 
Sylas said:
Yo but Finn wasn't really incompetent at all. The worst that happened is that he wasn't very good with a lightsaber--a weapon he wasn't trained to use. Other than that, dude was firing off rounds and sniping people left and right with his blaster and picked up on the Falcon's ancient-ass targeting system relatively swiftly. He was integral to the resistance knowing how to blow up Starkiller Base. Shit, if anything he was way too competent for having just been a janitor.

Dude pulled his weight even without the sheer charisma and bravery.
Click to expand...

I agree, but I've literally heard, "black peeta" "Jar Jar" etc. etc.


I mean, I could blame the marketing, but like I'm worried it's gonna get out of hand.
 
Sephzilla said:
The only wrench in the "Rey is a Kenobi" thing for me is that trying to explain this to the audience would get really exposition heavy because you'd need to explain;

--When Obi-Wan found a wife/love
--What happened to her before A New Hope
--What happened to Obi-Wan's child/children before A New Hope
--Why Obi-Wan didn't train his own offspring to be Jedi
--What happened to Rey's parents
--Why Rey was left alone

That honestly might be too much to lay on an audience.
Click to expand...

It's possible Ben didn't know about the child. There are many ways to explain it.
 
One reference that they COMPLETELY missed out on that would have been perfect:

When Han dies and Leia gets the wind knocked out of her, they should have had 3PO ask her what's wrong, and she should have responded "I sense a disturbance in the force."
 
Kid Kamikaze10 said:
I agree, but I've literally heard, "black peeta" "Jar Jar" etc. etc.


I mean, I could blame the marketing, but like I'm worried it's gonna get out of hand.
Click to expand...

The hell did people want? A flawless badass that walks on screen and solves all of the problems?

I can't even blame marketing--he was a little more joke-y than it might've portrayed, but hell. Even the pivotal scene towards the end when he has the saber? The trailer made it look like he was shitting his pants. Guy was actually furious and capable enough to not die. Oh no, he got injured!
 
Keby said:
One of my favorite parts is how we were just thrown into the story again. Just like ANH there was a story already happening and we the audience were there along for the ride without all this long exposition. Sure they called out a few things from the past but it was so refreshing to just be thrown into the loop 32 years after the original.
Click to expand...

I don't know, I kind of didn't like that.

I was hoping we would see the rise of the First Order. In fact, I thought that's what this movie would be about.

I guess the Empire just continued it's ways after Palpatine and Darth Vader died?

Branduil said:
I really hope that Phasma really died in the trash compactor. It's just too funny.
Click to expand...

I'm guessing she's supposed to be like Boba Fett. That would really suck.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Andor S2 |OT| Remember Star Wars?
2 3 4
190
3K
Lord Panda replied
Apple to rename all of its operating systems
23
231
Drew1440 replied
Star Wars Maul shadow lord annonced
38
2K
spookyfish replied
George Lucas told an impossible story in Star Wars
2
79
929
Randall365 replied
  • Poll
Vintage Favorite Star Wars Character Thread (spoilers possible)
41
2K
Lunarorbit replied
Top Bottom