For the sake of discussion I might try to do some counterpoint stuff with your post (once I get out of work and have more time lol). Some of the stuff feels like you might have missed something watching the movie, other stuff I think is a little weak to complain about because it's stuff you can apply to any Star Wars movie.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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For the sake of discussion I might try to do some counterpoint stuff with your post (once I get out of work and have more time lol). Some of the stuff feels like you might have missed something watching the movie, other stuff I think is a little weak to complain about because it's stuff you can apply to any Star Wars movie.
DownGrader
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Also, am I blind or was this scene below not in the movie? My son said it was, but I don't remember seeing it:
It definitely wasn't. Not the "angry walking/lightsaber turning on" part.
TangoAlphaLima
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I noticed that too. It was pretty obvious Han was going to die there anyway, but as soon as the light stopped shining on Kylo, you knew it was over for Han.
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I thought so, but wow! I'm really surprised they didn't use this shot. It's fucking incredible. I wonder why they cut it out.
Bobby Roberts
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It was not. You heard it offscreen.
no, they aren't. people seem to want them to, but they aren't.
kiss on the forehead. "good bye, my friend". that's what i'd do to my best friend if he was in a coma.
wait a second. That's what i DID to a very good friend of mine before he passed away. shit.
If they wanted to show that there's a romantic spark, there would have been no better moment than kissing the (possibly mortally wounded) 'love interest' on the lips, while he's still breathing, at least.
BattleshipErnest
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Holyfuuuuuck!! I loved this so much! I need to see it again stat! I pretty much loved the entire movie start to finish. That Kylo/Rey duel was so great. The only thing that I was annoyed by was that the my boys from the Raid just seemed wasted. It was cool to see them, but dammit use their skills JJ!!!
Also, am I blind or was this scene below not in the movie? My son said it was, but I don't remember seeing it:
No, I never saw that scene. At least, not from that angle anyway. I don't mind that being a trailer exclusive money shot.
Bobby Roberts
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They already had. At least three times prior.
A kiss on the forehead doesn't nullify that.
Messypandas
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I think they just shot some stuff specifically for the teaser. Boyega said when they were shooting the stand up in the desert they knew on the day it was the first shot of the teaser and it was way shorter in the movie. Also, the scene where Rey looks panicked on the speeder magnum was cut. I guess they just wanted a mysterious badass villain shot that would get people talking, which is why he has his hood up too.
Eh, I think they just didn't want to push this too far in the first movie. There were several scenes already that pushed the idea of some spark between them.
Me too. Really surprised some thought that sequence lacked impact. The shot of the people looking up at the energy blasts hitting the moon and closing in on them.. horrifying. Yet gorgeous at the same time.
Scientist Supreme!
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Ok. At least your giving me a response with substance.
The Right Deal
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Holyfuuuuuck!! I loved this so much! I need to see it again stat! I pretty much loved the entire movie start to finish. That Kylo/Rey duel was so great. The only thing that I was annoyed by was that the my boys from the Raid just seemed wasted. It was cool to see them, but dammit use their skills JJ!!!
Also, am I blind or was this scene below not in the movie? My son said it was, but I don't remember seeing it:
There were quite a few scenes in the trailer that weren't in the movie. No doubt they will be in the Blu-Ray/DVD as a deleted scene.
Maybe a 'Clerks' type show with two guys in the Death Star video store. Who weren't even supposed to be there today. End it with all conflicts working out fine and then BOOM.
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I think so too. They destroyed any notion of romance, at least until the end of Episode 8/Episode 9, because Rey is now going full Jedi. Maybe Finn will have a new love interest in episode 8, and Rey returning would instil strange feelings in both,resulting in them both realising their feelings for each other were born out of circumstance (both never having had family) more than anything.
DownGrader
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By the way, I liked how it was shown several times why Kylo Ren's cross-shaped lightsaber is practical. Remember how everyone mocked it when it was shown in the teaser? Well, I have to say it was actually way more practical than now-iconic dual lightsabers.
SparksterMeta0
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Discotheque
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scust at disney's handling of this franchise already.
they have a giant gap of 30 years to fill up with whatever they want and instead they decide to do freaking Star Wars Origins: Han Solo and Star Wars Origins: Boba Fett
good luck to the poor kid who has to fill harrison ford's shoes too.
BattleshipErnest
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Also, what the hell is Snoke? Where'd he come from?
I like the unanswered questions all over this thing. And it seems that there's a whole other small group of Boba Fetts this time. Not just Brienne of Darth.
I like the unanswered questions all over this thing. And it seems that there's a whole other small group of Boba Fetts this time. Not just Brienne of Darth.
It's always a mentor figure, to really hammer down that the trilogy is about the new generation.
The hand is the bad-beat of middle entry. I don't think it will necessarily come in a hand this time, but I don't expect Luke to make it to the end of the trilogy.
Musical queues hint that he might be Darth Plagueis, Palpatine's mentor. He's not going with the full Sith & apprentice thing after his last apprentice nearly (or maybe even did) kill him.
Liquidsnake
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Maybe Luke doesn't want to be turned. And hes afraid?
Shuggananas
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yeah, the whole shot before with every faction seeing it from afar...
I couldn't hold it, shivers
Seventy_X_Seven
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Regarding the map, is it ever said that Luke created it? The opening crawl says they suspect Luke went to the first Jedi temple, so perhaps the maps are just gathered clues on where exactly that is?
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Oh, I was also glad they had lightsaber injuries that weren't straight up limb choppings.
DownGrader
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Honesty... I feel sad about the fact this movie will surely be distributed on SD media.
BattleshipErnest
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Maybe it's cuz I was sitting very close to the screen, but were there a LOT of extreme close ups in this movie or am I tripping?
And there are a LOT of big ass noses in this movie.
And there are a LOT of big ass noses in this movie.
MagicWithEarvin
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I'd love for them to try and explain how a powerful being like Snoke has not gotten any mention all these years if it's a completely new villain. If Snoke is indeed Plagueis behind the scenes, then that would be more than acceptable to me.
gutter_trash
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yup, it's like a big Fuck You to the Prequels lol
That's JJ and his cinematographer's style. They shoot films like they're television shows.
How so?
gutter_trash
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because the prequels spent way too much time on Corruscent
Tesseract
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snape killed han
This movie had a number of shots that are up there amongst the most beautiful in the SW series.yeah, the whole shot before with every faction seeing it from afar...
I couldn't hold it, shivers
My favorite possibly being the Tie Fighters against the setting sun. I was also in love with every scene of Rey alone on Jakku.
it's not Coruscant that was blown up, though.
So better change that to "the prequels spent way too much time on the republic's capital planet
broncobuster
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Two thoughts on the credits. First, it's a great film. Second, boy do I feel foolish for going all out to avoid spoilers. Not that surprise is a metric for quality or anything, but TFA is blunt with its telegraphing. Rey using the lightsaber is about the only curve that comes to mind.
Although, after saying it is it hypocritical to ask if there's a theory on Max von Sydow's character?
Although, after saying it is it hypocritical to ask if there's a theory on Max von Sydow's character?
DownGrader
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Episode I: shot and edited like Star Wars OT, feels nothing like it.
Episode VII: shot and edited unlike all Star Wars movies, feels just like OT films.
goldenpp72
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I'd say I am mildly satisfied with the movie. While I am all for fan service I did feel that it was handled poorly often times and kind of hokey in a not charming way. Along with some other nitpicks and yet again recycled plot points, it was still a solid movie. Maybe a 7 out of 10 experience overall but I like where the potential is going and imagine an 8 and 9 could be viewed as much better (and this one being elevated for the setup)
It did wash away the blandness and sterile feeling of the prequel movies however, and for that it is an overall success.
It did wash away the blandness and sterile feeling of the prequel movies however, and for that it is an overall success.
It seems to be a Map with specific locations marked with the one hidden section. Kylo mentions they have all of the map except that part from the Old Imperial Archives.
Sort of looks like it could be a map of old Jedi Temple locations perhaps. Palpatine was big on relics of the force. Luke may have gotten the map from the archives and removed the key section.
He is Jar Jar
pock3tmonster
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That was how I understood it too. It wasn't so much a map to Luke, but a map to the first Jedi temple where Luke was hiding. Otherwise, how else do you explain the Empire having a near complete map to Luke's location in their archive? Kylo Ren explicitly states as much in the film. The Emperor would surely have interest in the first Jedi temple.
Bam Bam Baklava
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All I know is that there better be a good explanation for Snoke or this whole thing is gonna feel hollow as fuck.
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