brandonh83
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She nailed it.
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She nailed it.
How can anyone watch this and actually think that Kylo was significantly injured during the fight?
Ha. Love it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Well, he kept punching himself in his injury. I assume he was high on adrenaline most of that fight
BigJonsson
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The Empire destroyed the Senate in Ep 4......this is a new Senate
A similar thing happened in the comics, Luke turns to defeat a clone of the emperor. It was pretty shit.
Also I have a hard time believing allowing billions to be killed by the starkiller base, slaughtering a couple dozen Jedis in training and killing your own father is justifiable to anyone to just kill one person.
Darth Maul was interesting, but they did exactly jack shit with him.
Starsailor
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well if he wasn't that be bad for all the old fan since 1977 who loved han.
Chewbacca has to shoot Kylo. For them, for the old fans. That's logical
brandonh83
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He was pretty driven. Anger and adrenaline can compensate for a lot, even physically.
Subpar Spatula
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Yup. That punching nailed home the point that he was totally unhinged.
Starsailor
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I think Adam Driver nailed it. After kill Han Solo, he was like crazy and creepy as fuck
KINGofCRA5H
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If he did, it was only for a split second. Kylo even thanked him for it.
That whole scene was done very well imo. You have the symbolism of the light from the sun waning, to almost complete darkness right as he was about to kill him, conveying his loss of the light side of the force in that very second.
MetalFearSolid
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Then Adam Driver clearly failed to reenact Matthew McConaughey's Wolf on Wall Street Chest beating.
brandonh83
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The end of the movie made me so much more interested in the character. And Driver is among the best actors in the series.
graffix13
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Well the Senate was disbanded during ANH (as mentioned by Tarkin). So unless he was re-elected after RotJ, he wasn't in there.
Ya the punching was pretty badass. "Oh I need some more adrenaline *whack*"
Probably. I don't think we're done with that aspect. Even Vader killing Obi-Wan allowed him a moment of redemption.
He doesn't kill Han because he's angry at him or anything - he does it because he's required to to show his commitment to the Darkside, and he admits how it's actually hard for him. He talks about being "seduced by the Light." He's a fascinatingly conflicted villain.
Already Torn
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I loved that and the haymaker he gave Finn right before knocking him the fuck out.
Fuck yes. I was worried that Kylo was going to die. I was so relieved he survived this movie.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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So the guy who spearheaded the campaign to give Palpatine military powers would still be on the council? I think this idea has some legs.
Starsailor
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The more i think about Rey VS Kylo for this trilogy the more i think it will be one of the great duality antagonist in movies in general.
Look at this video from leaked SW7 scenes with kylo and rey...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh82ahIaNlE
It's so epic. It's like two elements who can't destroy each other. Positive VS Negative.. we never saw that for Anakin and Luke because Luke wanted to save his father.
THIS...is really good and so promise for 8 and 9. Like Batman and the Joker.
Look at this video from leaked SW7 scenes with kylo and rey...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh82ahIaNlE
It's so epic. It's like two elements who can't destroy each other. Positive VS Negative.. we never saw that for Anakin and Luke because Luke wanted to save his father.
THIS...is really good and so promise for 8 and 9. Like Batman and the Joker.
lastplayed
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Same. It's kinda funny that all the tension I felt was hoping that Kylo wouldn't die.
When you get over your 'I'm better then all of you sheeple' you could actually engage in discussion over parts of the movie instead of your wide paint brush hyperbole.
KINGofCRA5H
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I also liked Kylo's voice when his helmet was on. I thought it fit him very well.
How did you miss the shot where they specifically showed a bunch of his blood on the snow?
Lol exactly.
BlackGhost
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Fight was so good.The Kylo spin is my new favourite move. I like how he almost takes Finn's head off beforehand.
Still can't believe Kylo was Adam from Girls.
brandonh83
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I didn't as Driver is signed on for more
Abrams is amazing at creating villains. Hoffman in MI3, Cumberbatch and now Driver. I figured Kylo would be a great villain due to this streak and I still wasn't prepared.
Something something something DARK SIDE
Starsailor
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Kylo will be much more darker than Vador...he did what Vador never did.
And we saw at this moment this insane transformation into the dark side after Han solo death.
I invested $20 into a movie with laser swords in it. I did fine.
brandonh83
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The voice was perfect. It's usually whacky or screaming with masked villains but this was like a mix of Darth Vader and a serial killer that doesn't realize he's fucking psychotic.
Yes, yes it is.
Subpar Spatula
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He's doing these moves but people say, "he's doing badly because he's injured". Protip: if you're shot in the side and bleeding as much as him spinning while lifting a sword is not good. It's to show you the weirdness of the argument where it doesn't make sense but people try really hard from assuming what will happen in the next movie to just going super deep with symbolism. It's quite weird how deep people are analyzing this movie and coming up with answers. It's not to say the movie is horrible but geez... sorry to be a downer but reading this and the previous thread you would assume God directed the perfect movie.
minimumhippo
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Yeah this made me happy. He still has so much to do, I'm more excited to see his growth than I am any of the other characters. They did a great job unlike say, Darth Maul, who looked cool but did jack shit in the movie and had all of 2 lines.
Vincent4756
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That it is. Really give a lot of insight on stuff.
BlackGhost
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The whole last fight I was hoping Kylo would live. Was a great villian, looking forward to character development
brandonh83
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My art book and soundtrack were delivered but I won't be home for a few days. Fuuuuuuck.
Did you even watch the movie? Seriously I feel like half the nit picks in this thread are by people who simply didn't pay attention to anything.
Yeah I got this impression too, sounded great. Guy is scary.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Honestly, I kinda hope that Kylo Ren is brought back to the light.
I kinda do.
But he won't be. I'm sure on that one.
I kinda do.
But he won't be. I'm sure on that one.
i'm not taking any position. i loved the original 3 star wars as a kid, i gave the 3 prequels a chance, and i gave this one a chance. they took all the major plot points from the original 3 and added a girl central character. that's pretty much all they did.
the villain was just another whiney dude with daddy resentment that we're for some reason supposed to feel for at times? i dunno, and then a stormtrooper that decides to switch sides amazingly quickly because he was seeing people getting killed senselessly but then has no gripes about shooting a fuck ton of stormtroopers while being instantly trusted by everyone he was previously supposed to kill???? What????
it's kiddy popcorn at the highest of Disney levels. Not even the original 3 was this much Disney . They should have trusted the team at Pixar to do this entire film as a live action. At least we could have had a slightly deeper more compelling narrative with characters that weren't just 2 dimensional.
Theodoricos
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A huge neon sign behind him telling us he was hurt would've helped.
Subpar Spatula
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You missed the point. It's a response to the argument, "he lost to Rey because he was hurt" when he's pulling out sword spins and stuff.
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