That's why I think we'll be seeing more Starkillers in the future. Shit what if our old friend Tattooine turns out is a Starkiller. Huge fucking twist.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Atraveller
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Of course it would be a mobile base, if it's immobile it would be useless after two recharges, what an awful design!
So the beam knows when to exit hyperspace? I mean doesn't ships don't collide with anything in hyperspace?
Kor of Memory
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That actually helps with the fact that other systems could view it.
Hyperspace is space magic, so they can make whatever rules they want about it.
I'm not saying it answers that problem, but I can accept it this way.
Doesn't Finn say something about the Sun recharging?
I just assumed they can just keep using the same sun.
Raven117
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I do urge you to look back through my posts, and try and see what I'm saying..I'm not really talking about Star Wars.
People are free to love or hate anything wish including Star Wars (gasp).
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DrForester
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Spock watching the destruction of Vulcan from another system.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
Yes. He's a horrible brat but seems to actually be aware of things and somewhat realistic in his confusion between the light and dark side.
I hope they explore exactly why he chose the dark side. They don't really give many clues and I hope it's not a silly "mom dies snap" like his grandfather.
Theodoricos
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I doubt he "chose" it. Snoke must've been manipulating him for a long time.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Yup, they just freeze to death with no star to warm them afterwards!
(loved the movie, but the Starkiller was way silly)
Atraveller
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I always thought it was a planet in the same system when I watched it.
It sucked its sun dry tho.
Kor of Memory
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The novelization gives you the impression that Ben was probably hearing voices in his head since he was a child.
DryEyeRelief
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No, I think you don't get it. Maybe it's because I come from competitive gaming on the other side of these forums, but I'm used to being around people who develop a finer opinion of media that the majority of users would normally just breeze through and not give a second thought about. If you aren't as nitpicky, that's your prerogative. But you shouldn't push that onto others.
WadiumArcadium
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Definitely. The Death Star was silly as well. It's always been part of the charm for me lol.
Same as the Blu-Ray release.
Nothing. It's just dumb people in comments section as always.
EDIT: Beaten faster than Finn with a lighsaber.
Nope, it's the 2011 Blu rays again.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Me too, although I didn't like the Starkiller nearly as much.
Kor of Memory
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I don't remember seeing the actual sun. Just the stream coming through the clouds that eventually dried up.
Couldn't help it. Bought tickets for tomorrow night at my local museum, for my third viewing. The last time I saw a movie in theaters 3 times was... I have no idea at all. I saw it originally in LieMAX 3D, then a regular screening, and this will be in true IMAX 2D/70mm, so I'm pretty excited.
Discotheque
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It's too cerebral for star wars and likely wouldn't be done but man what if they kind of made allegories to schizophrenia when showing ben's turn to the dark side. Like its an unstoppable influence on him that others couldnt truly understand
He was looking a bit unhinged as it was when he confronted his dad
Arg seriously?! Is there ever going to be a re-release of the originals? How have they not caved into demand by now?
NYCmetsfan
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They're the scene where he talks to himself and says he still feels the light side. He does seem like he is making choices. Though I think there is some element of control as his call for help to han seems genuine.
I don't know how much you know about competitive gaming (I'm an expert) but finer opinion of media and being nitpicky are huge parts of it.
DryEyeRelief
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Hey PopeReal! Does this count as condescending?
There's definitely a big space shot of the full on sun as Starkiller starts sucking the energy, with a stream coming off the sun to the planet. And it's definitely the sun blinking out of existence and darkening the scene right before Kylo kills Han.
LegendofLex
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- He mentions that he views his father as "weak" and that he was "disappointed" by Han, and we see from Han/Leia's relationship that things were kinda complicated, so possibly as an effort to compensate. He sees his father's continued existence as a source of potential weakness.
- Han/Leia send him away out of fear that he'll turn to the dark side like Vader did, and I'm sure this wasn't lost on him and probably actually pushed him to resent his parents.
- If the idea that he knew of Rey and her potential previously holds, possibly jealousy/feelings of inadequacy.
I'm gonna try to get my friends for a third screening, but this time on regular format and on cheap Tuesday.
Neither I have felt that urge to do so in years
Pai Pai Master
Banned
It could be part of it but yeah may complicate things for the younger audience.
But exactly, that's what made his scene with Han so tragic to me. He doesn't show this side of himself to Rey, but you can see just from the way he looks at his father, that he is being pulled apart on the inside by the call of the dark and light side.
Theodoricos
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The Death Star was a lot more believable in its function and how effective it was, though. For one thing, it had to actually orbit the planet in order to destroy it.
XFD
Yeah I think that is a problem with the entertainment industry, they are always chasing the highs previous franchises had
But that is basically impossible to re-create, a lot of it is also contextual, the original trilogy came out at the right time culturally-socialy speaking
As you said, they can't break the formula but I hope they find a way to shake it a bit to make it more interesting
George Oscar Bluth II
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There is no hint of any release for the originals. There is a 4K restoration in the works which removes some changes, keeps some and I think updates some of the existing ones. Best of both worlds sorta thing.
There's Harmy's despecialized editions, but they're not legal AND you have to go through hell and highwater to obtain them.
Also, they're not really the originals - just Frankenstein'd into looking like them.
The Resistance was able to find a weak point in Starkiller Base for the same reason the Rebellion could find a weak point in the first Death Star: blueprints. Finn had the base's blueprints because he'd worked there.
Anyway, has anyone posted this yet? You can listen to the Force Awakens score for free. Check out the widget at the bottom of this Disney Studio Awards webpage: http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/star-wars/music
Use the Back and Next arrows to change tracks.
This is the score of the movie, which is different from the tracks recorded for the official soundtrack that's for sale.
To download the individual MP3s, use http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track1.mp3 but change Track1 to Track2, Track3, etc. There are 23 tracks in all.
Anyway, has anyone posted this yet? You can listen to the Force Awakens score for free. Check out the widget at the bottom of this Disney Studio Awards webpage: http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/star-wars/music
Use the Back and Next arrows to change tracks.
This is the score of the movie, which is different from the tracks recorded for the official soundtrack that's for sale.
To download the individual MP3s, use http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/music/star-wars/Track1.mp3 but change Track1 to Track2, Track3, etc. There are 23 tracks in all.
That unfortunately some people still think that way. I'm not talking about you or others, who see him as a person, but even in this day in age a race of a person has an affect of how people will perceive them.
Kor of Memory
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I'll watch it again this weekend.
I thought the light that died out was just the stream, which would make sense with all the clouds being there anyway. The light was being pulled through the clouds, and thus illuminating what was underneath it.
Like I said, I'll watch it again and try to pay more attention to it.
Already Torn
Banned
Finn reminded me of myself more than anyone else because we're both super awkward and I'm really really white.
OricWindstar
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One big benefit to having Kylo Ren not be fully formed yet is we may finally get to see what training on the Dark Side looks like in a film. I'll be bummed if we don't get to see Snoke teaching him. Especially with Roan Johnson helming VIII, I can see them doing some twisted stuff, especially since the emotional starting point for Kylo's training is whatever is left in him after killing his father.
kopitarrulez_11
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Well apparently this thread is 50/50 that damn criticism is strong hahahaha
LegendofLex
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They actually did their own recon, which was inevitably what allowed the First Order to track their location.
Finn was able to point out critical elements of their self-made scans of the planet, though, probably due to having worked in sanitation and having to be aware of the layout of the base.
hipsterpants
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The more I think about it the dumber everything about the Not-Deathstar becomes, I mean:
1) a janitor was able to identify its weakness
2) how easily the shields were turned off. I mean Phasma did it with literally no resistance, there was nobody guarding the most important room on the entire planet, etc.
3) the fact that apparently all they needed to do was place some explosives and they could have destroyed the whole thing. Yet there were no guards anywhere in the area.
Also it was dumb for Kylo to leave literally one guard to look over their super important prisoner.
The writing in this movie has a lot of flaws. There's some good stuff but it's apparent The First Order is full of incompetent morons.
1) a janitor was able to identify its weakness
2) how easily the shields were turned off. I mean Phasma did it with literally no resistance, there was nobody guarding the most important room on the entire planet, etc.
3) the fact that apparently all they needed to do was place some explosives and they could have destroyed the whole thing. Yet there were no guards anywhere in the area.
Also it was dumb for Kylo to leave literally one guard to look over their super important prisoner.
The writing in this movie has a lot of flaws. There's some good stuff but it's apparent The First Order is full of incompetent morons.
kopitarrulez_11
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Its a star wars movie hahahaha if they were too damn smart the bad guys would always win lol
Been waiting on your thoughts! You saw it a couple of days ago right?
It's just absurd to me that there's nothing in the works yet. Is there some reason? Like is the original master footage gone or something? I just watched the originals the other day, and while the quality sucked, I couldn't imagine seeing them again loaded with CGI shit. I've seen it before and I hated it.
-tetsuo-
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I skimmed that but it doesn't matter. I don't mean a black hole character, I mean a Mary Sue.
"A Mary Sue or, in case of a male, Gary Stu or Marty Stu is an idealized fictional character, a young or low-rank person who saves the day through extraordinary abilities. "
She was flying the Falcon better than we had ever seen Han fly within minutes of getting into it, without a co-pilot. She lined up a shot for the stuck canon without even knowing where the canons relative position to herself was in the ship. Minutes. Saved them from the Tie Fighters.
She then repaired and modded the ship better than Han or Chewie or Lando ever had directly after that, saving the ship from blowing up.
She repelled a trained force user in a way that "the resistances bravest pilot" couldn't, then probed him him BACK within minutes of being exposed to the technique. Then she does a jedi mind trick without having any pre-conceived notion that a jedi mind trick even exists. This is something we have only seen from the likes of Obi Wan, who was a Jedi Master. Saved herself from what was basically an impossible situation.
Then after Kylo Ren toys with Finn, who has combat training as a stormtrooper, she force pulls the saber to herself without ever having done it. Pulling it from someone who had just minutes prior force pushed her 40 feet back into a tree. Someone who earlier in the movie had stopped a blaster bolt mid air and force pulled a full grown man to hands. After a quick beat back, she closes her eyes and says "the force" and proceeds to completely dominate a trained lightsaber wielder in a duel. And no, him being injured doesn't matter. It didn't matter when he was toying with Finn or overwhelming her. Saved herself and Finn.
The character is just way overblown. Any one of these moments taken alone MIGHT have been not silly, but as a whole they are just ridiculous.
TheOctodad
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1) He wasn't actually a janitor. If you read the books he was the top 1% of his class.
2) Phasma thought it didn't matter. She figured a small amount of x-wings, the timing, Kylo, and the chances of all of it working together were near impossible and stupid.
3)Kylo was there was he not?
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If the Starkiller sucks the energy out of the sun, why would it even need to shoot at any planet in the system? There's no more sun 
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