Damn it, I need this art book, I keep hearing of all these cool little production details like this. Let me check and see if it's at my local Barnes & Noble before I get my tickets for tomorrow's showing. Will be my first time seeing TFA in IMAX glory and the entire fam is going, will probably be like a whole new experience tbh.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Ether_Snake
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It's the junk dealer.
FloydtheFathead
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This guy
That's more with Michael being awesome than to do with JJ I believe.
This guy
JJ only directed the pilot, long before Ben ever shows up.
Really? I thought she was just flirting with him.
In any case, the quick cuts to Chewie's reactions in this movie were priceless. It's the kind of frenetic editing style you would never have seen in any of George's movies.
Starsailor
Banned
well he choose him for Person of Interest too
FloydtheFathead
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I'm not saying JJ didn't have anything to do with him. Emerson is just a really good actor is all.
Starsailor
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Season 3 Episode 1 directed by J.J.A
John Rabbit
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she was mothering him.
I keep hearing people say this but I didn't see it that way at all. Just looking at her face and listening to the tone in her voice it was super obvious to me that she was just humoring him and not actually giving a shit. Was hilarious.
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Deleted member 80556
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Saw the movie again. I really, really loved the first act of the movie, specifically Rey's scenes. It's all so calm.
Payed attention to see of Kylo lost his right arm, and when he is the ground, I saw that he still had his hand. Two different takes as well.
Payed attention to see of Kylo lost his right arm, and when he is the ground, I saw that he still had his hand. Two different takes as well.
Person of Interest says hi.This guy
VisceralBowl
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Honestly, I don't know. I read my first Star Wars EU novels recently (Thrawn trilogy) and thought that was a better direction for the series post-ROTJ - not perfect but far better for sure. I'm aware that it wouldn't work well as a movie (being 30 years later and all).
Something less same-ey as far as overall plot goes.
The faction setup was dumb. The resistance should have just been the New Republic's military. The New Order should have just been the Empire.
The NR shouldn't have been wiped off the map in 30 seconds.
I thought most of the New Order's designs didn't look good - some were far too clean and others overly Nazi-like (I know the empire of old was the same but it felt way more obvious in this movie).
There shouldn't have been a Death Star 3.
Phasma was mostly pointless. The cape was terrible.
Too much fan service.
I did like Rey, Finn, and Poe a lot. BB8 was okay.
That's some quick thoughts. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow so maybe I'll have a change of heart or more detailed criticism.
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If Rey goes evil, she could kill Kylo with his own lightsaber after force stealing it when he dropped it fighting Luke, Luke yells nooooooo when Rey kills Kylo with it and she flees.
In IX when we see her again she would have a dual-wielding saber made out of Kylo's.
In IX when we see her again she would have a dual-wielding saber made out of Kylo's.
Dubbedinenglish
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Got to watch it again last night and I agree. I've maintained it ,saw it discussed here and wavered, but I think he is again. During the Jakku assault when the bloodied hand touches his helmet that same force sound plays as the interrogations and when Kylo freezes Poe and his blaster shot. Maz still sees something in him from the conversation while ignoring his words. Then the his line of "taken from parents I'll never know" gives me indication that there is more to his story besides plucky comedic sidekick that has heart (tm). Not to mention in Falcon he gets a lot of 1-1 shots as Luke in ANH in the gunner position. Then the coma will be a plot point in the next film as he has to awaken.
I think they have left ambiguous but I'm leaning he has more of a future with it than not.
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Jotamide
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So what? It was fanservice done right IMO.
FloydtheFathead
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My mother knows me.
The most american picture there ever was.
She was being curious. I'm sure inter-species hunka chunka is very common in the SW universe.
21 grams?
Fan fact. Im not from the US of A.
Bedameister
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Yeah I agree with those. But overall I was happy with it. At least they didn't fuck it up completely.
I guess it strongly depends on what expectations people bring into this movie.
If they are smart, they will release an extended cut next summer. By that time, they should have a good idea of what unreleased footage is going to contradict Episode VIII (it should already be finished shooting by then) and just leave it on the cutting room floor.
Disney gets their summer Star Wars movie, a trailer for Rogue One, and the fans get a longer version of a movie they already love.
FloydtheFathead
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There was a bit too much of it for my taste. As an example, Han referencing the garbage chute rubbed me wrong -- felt like a really forced wink at the camera. We get it filmmakers -- you're Star Wars fans just like us. I hope we got all of that out of the way and that Ep VIII forges its own path more than this did.
Good... You finally have a lighter that will last.
I keep seeing folks mentioning that Han borrowing Chewie's gun was random and dumb. What those folks didn't notice is that Han first uses Chewie's gun to save Chewie after he gets shot on the freighter. There's a visible "woah" moment when Han first shoots it to establish that he never realized how powerful Chewie's weapon was.
It's a gag that's then brought back when Han asks to borrow Chewie's gun to get them out of a sticky situation when the First Order shows up.
Besides all that, the whole purpose is three-fold. Han avenging Chewie with Chewie's gun forshadows Chewie avenging Han, establishes that Chewie's gun is very powerful and thus would do a lot of damage to Kylo Ren, weakening him for his fight against Finn and Rey, it's a fun buddy moment that shows the friendly, adventurous relationship Han and Chewie have as well as how they work as one team, not two separate people.
It's a gag that's then brought back when Han asks to borrow Chewie's gun to get them out of a sticky situation when the First Order shows up.
Besides all that, the whole purpose is three-fold. Han avenging Chewie with Chewie's gun forshadows Chewie avenging Han, establishes that Chewie's gun is very powerful and thus would do a lot of damage to Kylo Ren, weakening him for his fight against Finn and Rey, it's a fun buddy moment that shows the friendly, adventurous relationship Han and Chewie have as well as how they work as one team, not two separate people.
So, anyone else wondering if Rey ends up with a double-sided lightsaber when she makes her own? Seems like it might be a good fit considering her use of a staff but I wonder if they'll be trying to leave some of the more gimmicky stuff from the prequels behind.
Looking at Kylo's saber it could go either way.
Looking at Kylo's saber it could go either way.
Dubbedinenglish
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I think some of that was necessary to build back trust with the franchise. They did play it pretty safe with the story and characters with Finn's being the only real unique one. JJ and co have been upfront distancing themselves from the prequels and referencing the OT from the costumes, to the effects to the world building. If they started out as a new take on Star Wars I don't think the reception would be as positive. Now they have the trust again I think they are much more able to take the risks in 8-9.
I just really want a core character to have a yellow lightsaber for once. Those were always my favorite. Or any other color besides blue, green, or red.
I hope I will not loose this one.
Charles Foster Kane
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I'm flipping back and forth with the soundtrack. It's the weakest of the series, but it still has great stuff in it. It just lacks a hook.
I say it in IMAX 3D and felt the same thing.
I wish they had used with make-up and practical effects, instead. Or maybe just make a better models.
Yes. Agreed. It's not bad by any means, but it doesn't stand out compared to the rest of the franchised.
Empire has probably the biggest plot hole in the series so I'm alright with those, haha.
The "Jedi steps and finale" redeems it. Its so good.
Ignatz Mouse
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What's the hole?
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MeisaMcCaffrey
I just saw it too, posted in that other thread about Rey. I'm assuming we will know more about her in the next movie. I hope so because I was like "damn girl" when she used her mind control technique.
I don't know what to think right now. The movie had no dull moments but I'm not satisfied at all. I need to know more about Rey and why she can use the force. Also, Finn was so good. I wish Luke had more screentime but whatevs, felt nice to see Hamill again.
I don't know what to think right now. The movie had no dull moments but I'm not satisfied at all. I need to know more about Rey and why she can use the force. Also, Finn was so good. I wish Luke had more screentime but whatevs, felt nice to see Hamill again.
Warm Machine
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The whole reuse of the empire / imperials / first order drives me bananas. You can call Han shooting second as a flattening of his character but the whole goal of the OT is undemined by this movie.
They could have made the enemy army anyone else. Even take Mandalorians seeing a political opening and building up an army and your plot is exactly where it needs to be. All you need is cool looking guys in armour with big ships and Snoke as the leader. This way you are not doing retroactive plot damage or have to justify their continued existence.
They could have made the enemy army anyone else. Even take Mandalorians seeing a political opening and building up an army and your plot is exactly where it needs to be. All you need is cool looking guys in armour with big ships and Snoke as the leader. This way you are not doing retroactive plot damage or have to justify their continued existence.
brandonh83
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They ended Vader and Palpatine's rule. And an entire galaxy isn't going to be safe from power hungry knuckleheads forever.
excelsiorlef
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She might just very well use Anakin/Luke's
Warm Machine
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They did that and destroyed the empire, at least that was the implication. Like I said, make the enemy army anyone else and it works without having to undo the OT.
I get the nostalgia of wanting to see storm troopers, tie fighters, star destroyers, and so on but it wasn't necessary for the plot.
excelsiorlef
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It's basically a galactic Iraq into ISIS sort of thing only in Star Wars Iraq was ruling everything and supremely powerfyk
Dash_Riprock
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Any word yet on Lucas' reaction to the film?
CrichtonKicks
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They didn't undo the OT. The galaxy has been at peace for almost 30 years. The First Order is an emerging threat in TFA.
brandonh83
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There were still imperial personnel and assets left over. I mean it's pretty much impossible to completely wipe out a faction with the power and resources to build something like the Death Star... twice. I dunno, it makes sense to me but to each his own 
Warm Machine
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Then it is the laziest production design in Star Wars having them use imperial costuming and ship designs.
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