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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Starsailor
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Maybe she's the daughter of a guy/women from the dark side..?
That could be cool.
Son of good guy = dark side
Daughter of a dark guy = good side
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
None of those other visions were from Rey's perspective. Why would you assume that one was?
Ahem...
The GOAT
Kylo doesn't necessarily have to go light. Could be Finn and Luke vs Rey and Ren... ahh "Rey and Ren, Lords of the Sith" That just sounds badass.
Starsailor
Banned
well kylo said that jedi's are assassin and murderer
You underestimate the power of the Dark side of the force.
The Librarian
Banned
Well, the only one that matters.Ahem...
We can definitely draw some safe conclusions about bridges they won't cross for merchandising reasons, I think.
The Librarian
Banned
It's not a question of "if."
Ahem...
And... spoiled. Oh well. Lol
bodyofanamerican
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Their friendship brings her back.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I don't know, ask Obi-Wan and Yoda? Their ultimate goal was for Luke to kill Vader.
The Librarian
Banned
The horrible history of the way the Star Wars franchise has treated its female characters?
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
No he didn't. He was talking about Han and Finn and I believe he said 'thieves' and 'liars'. Pretty sure he didn't say 'assassins'.
Starsailor
Banned
or just because rey is show like the "female" obi-wan kenobi or the "last airbender" of the star wars saga
Lifejumper
Member
So new outfit + lightsaber for ben?
Uh did you see the movie? They killed Han Solo....
In this case. Obi and Yoda are of a belief that once one goes to the Darkside, their former self is dead when they turn... damn Jedi really are kinda close minded. The Sith are so much more understanding and open.
Like I said. I have no logical basis in my speculation but it would be interesting. You can beat your ass Kylo having completed his full turn to the darkside and we assume he'll complete his training as well. Will be better prepared to face Rey.
Now of course Rey will be well trained as well by training with Luke.
The unknown with Rey is her origin/parentage. What if Kylo knows something or discovers something about her past. Reveals it to her and it FUCKS her up mentally. I mean it would essentially be a "No, I am your father." moment. But still.
Now of course Rey will be well trained as well by training with Luke.
The unknown with Rey is her origin/parentage. What if Kylo knows something or discovers something about her past. Reveals it to her and it FUCKS her up mentally. I mean it would essentially be a "No, I am your father." moment. But still.
That is why you fail ):
She's Ahsoka Tano, one of the best female characters in the franchise, she was created by George Lucas and Dave Filoni. She's canon too
Starsailor
Banned
I don't think this trilogy will end as dark as the PT did, which again, was because it was a tragedy from the very start.
If you think about the OT ending, it's not all that difficult on the emotions. Vader dies, the heroes live. I expect this trilogy to be pretty close to that. People like Star Wars when it's more upbeat than brooding.
That being said, how they get to that ending and what we learn about the characters and the fiction is what will be interesting.
If you think about the OT ending, it's not all that difficult on the emotions. Vader dies, the heroes live. I expect this trilogy to be pretty close to that. People like Star Wars when it's more upbeat than brooding.
That being said, how they get to that ending and what we learn about the characters and the fiction is what will be interesting.
Jacksinthe
Banned
I hope not. They need to build on the identity they created. He's the best looking sith since Vader, IMO.
The Librarian
Banned
I mean, if Star Wars is intent on treating its female characters like shit, they can go ahead and have Rey turn to the dark side.
But I think the franchise has put that tendency behind it.
But I think the franchise has put that tendency behind it.
Starsailor
Banned
I don't think so for the lightsaber. I hope he will keep the same with that cool guard.
Rey i suppose, will be the "dark maul" of the good side with her stick. Maybe she will combine Anakin and Luke lightsabers into one?
Theodoricos
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Rey will definitely be tempted by the dark side in the next movie, but I agree that it seems unlikely that she'll turn.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
"Those other people aren't really your friends." is step one in the cult programming handbook.
So that means she isn't able to fall to the darkside? It would make and interesting arc. At the very least she will be seduced by the darkside.
I'd like the bittersweet ending. Heroes win but they pay a big price.
Starsailor
Banned
Ending of episode 8 will be very dark i suppose...
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I think it's more likely that Rey will be able to utilize the Dark Side of the Force constructively versus actually succumbing to the Dark Side. Balance.
The Librarian
Banned
Right. Let's turn the first female, Jedi-to-be protagonist of the franchise (re: movies) and make her a shitty person.
That's not an interesting arc.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Hopefully that seduction is better than the one used on Luke.
The Librarian
Banned
Rey not turning to the dark side and "playing it safe" are not mutually exclusive.
How would the character turning to the dark side be treating it like shit?
I don't see how this as treating her character like shit. Luke nearly fell to the Darkside in Jedi. Anakin became Vader. Rey is clearly gifted in the force. It's not hard to imagine she'll at least be seduced. I just brought up the fact of her turning because it would be interesting.
Ether_Snake
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"You told us where to find the jedis, we killed them all. Oh btw that included your parents."
Given the case, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something akin to the Harry Potter 5 possession scene in the next film.
Would make sense too if the Force-visions thing become more common
Starsailor
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I agree with that.
Rey is the most pure and "light side" of the force with Yoda on the entire saga. Even Obi-wan was a douchbag in the prequel (but he was cool)
This is something I've always wanted to see. A force user that utilizes both light and dark without considering themselves Jedi or Sith. Someone who is a good (anti) hero. Sometimes using hate, anger or brutal methods to do the right thing. Not necessarily following the Jedi's strict rules but also not a cold hearted, destruction seeking bastard.
Having her turn to the darkside for one movie would be really interesting, we've seen people fall to the dark side, people reject it, but we've never seen someone go balls deep and then pulling herself together after a while.
Vader doesn't count as he went on for years and his change of heart did not include exploring guilt and regrets as he died soon after.
Vader doesn't count as he went on for years and his change of heart did not include exploring guilt and regrets as he died soon after.
The Librarian
Banned
You seem to be confusing "tempted" and "seduced." She can and may be tempted that's okay! But seduced? Not gonna happen.
And if you can't see why her turning the dark side given her place as a woman in the franchise, I can only assume you're not trying to imagine what it's like to have so few protagonists enthusiastic-to-be heroes! not be like you.
She already flirted with the dark side at the end of Force Awakens though. It's how she beat Kylo Ren's ass. Before that, she was barely getting away from him for half that fight.
Like I said. We don't know how these movies will play out. Maybe Ren finds something out about her that causes her great emotional stress. She's not perfect and she's can be corrupted just as easily as any Jedi.
And I'm not saying if that plays out she can't be redeemed. It just a story arc I'd like to see happen. I don't think it makes her shitty at all. Again Anakin completely fell to the darkside. Luke was arrogant, whiny and almost had his moment in Jedi. I don't see why it makes Rey a shitty character or person to experience this.
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