shadow2810
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Could happen if it was on PS4/PSV, unfortunely (?) it's on WiiU so it isn't going to change anything.
Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2015 (Dec 21 - Dec 27)
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Could happen if it was on PS4/PSV, unfortunely (?) it's on WiiU so it isn't going to change anything.
This is also only tracking two days.
Yup. Plus they really should have never teased it as, well, a SMTxFE game. Bomb harder than the Tsar Bomba, you disappointing Tokyo idol dating game!
Source?
It could've been 20 days, it would've changed nothing, RPGs are always super frontloaded, it's first couple of days are always the biggest.
theprodigy
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Holy Order Sol
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lol wish harder
MC will have one more week for the year, but for famitsu the year ended.
Oh my bad. Yeah that one lol.
Wow at #FE... It must be really bad. Let's see how Nintendo manages to push this game into the west. I have zero interest in this game. I cannot stand videogames with heavy anime looking artstyle such as this one 
Splatoon selling like if it was it's 3rd week on the market holy damn. 4th place for a brand new IP that it's been out for more than 6 months. Talk about success.
Splatoon selling like if it was it's 3rd week on the market holy damn. 4th place for a brand new IP that it's been out for more than 6 months. Talk about success.
Based on the impressions that have been going around the game seems to be good lol.Wow at #FE... It must be really bad. Let's see how Nintendo manages to push this game into the west. I have zero interest in this game. I cannot stand videogames with heavy anime looking artstyle such as this one
Splatoon selling like if it was it's 3rd week on the market holy damn. 4th place for a brand new IP that it's been out for more than 6 months. Talk about success.
Layton 5 sold inline with the series decline, it wasn't affected by 3DS. Miracle Mask still shipped 1.48M worldwide.
KH3D got disappointing sales in Japan, it still shipped 1.10M worldwide.
Theathrythm did nicely in Japan.
Super Street Fighter IV 3D shipped 1.20M worldwide which I'm sure Capcom was happy about.
Thanks for the clarification.
That wouldn't make it any less of a bomb.
No, you see, companies only look at their rankings, not on unit sales.
LordOcidax
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I can't believe how somebody can be happy about this, according to reviews the game is really good and for me looks amazing. Also the game was tracked for two days... and sold about 50% of their stock + some digital sales, is not that bad for the type of game and the system. This game can sell relatively well when comes to the west market. Day 1 buy here thats for sure.Yup. Plus they really should have never teased it as, well, a SMTxFE game. Bomb harder than the Tsar Bomba, you disappointing Tokyo idol dating game!
Rev1 numbers I last remember were something along the lines of ~500k for the 3DS version and 1.1m for all HD versions combined, WW. Rev 2 sold about in-line with that same figure but it wasn't an HD up-port, it was an actual game and the episodic nature totally obfuscates its performance and costs.
Still, these figures are in-line with or less than the 3DS figures you're admonishing as failures... on a single platform, and we're also talking about year ago when the 3DS wasn't sitting at 55m.
I think that many of your examples are simply events beside the 3DS, not the 3DS itself.
Ōkami;190796652 said:
The only hope this game has that it was adversely affected by Christmas and Comiket.
Can't imagine how long the load times would be.
Pennywise83
Banned
Capcom is just Monster Hunter and Ace Attorney - like they're much more elsewhere, and Monster Hunter is not one of the biggest IPs they have in terms of domestic and worldwide sales. Ace Attorney is also becoming a relevant IP given the recent push with an anime and the 6th entry.
Theatrhythm bombed so hard on 3DS that it even got a sequel on the same platform (Curtain Call is still a 3DS exclusive, while the first entry got a mobile porting quite soon), and a new entry featuring Dragon Quest music.
Tales of the Abyss bombed - stock problems in Japan and Europe, where it greatly sold above expectations (Namco Bandai rep).
Layton 5 didn't bombed - Layton 6 did, but what killed those IPs was Level-5's missmanagement; Little Battlers eXperience actually started really well on 3DS but then W got a late porting after PSP and PSV (!). Inazuma Eleven GO 1 and 2 sold 450k+ units on 3DS so pretty in line with the decline yearly IPs experience - nothing to do with 3DS which, on top of that, made it possible for Level-5 to create its biggest game ever, and one of the biggest IPs in Japan ever.
Really too bad about #FE. Game seems to have high production value and impressions are pretty good. It's really an audience mismatch, that type of RPG audience is all portable now and one game is more an anomaly than a trend to get buyers. Though I'm hopeful the west will pick up some slack, there's a fairly big niche for this stuff now.
I'm half joking, but yeah, Fire Emblem is already drifting too much towards this direction, and at least this sends the message that otaku pandering by itself won't make a FE-related game automatically successful. So, I'm focusing on the silver lining I guess?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
And this niche is on the Wii U in the west because
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Good hold for Monster Strike.
P&DZ second week (week 51) 256.373 / 800.003 (-53%)
Easily going to beat MH4U at this pace. Impressive.
Yokai Watch spinoff looking to break 2M next week. Nice!
These keep rolling
. Pretty awesome to see, and congrats to Splatoon on 1M Retail.How a proper spinoff should do
.This is hanging in there... but it still is pretty low :/.
Vita will finally have its first 500K (retail) title!
Wii's Rhythm Heaven sold 709,762. Could this outsell that? About 100K to go.
Well it should probably get 250-300K eventually. Not too bad even if less than the previous title.
Sigh... but not entirely unexpected
Legs
. Triforce heroes keeps hanging in there. Probably going to hit 150K, which isn't too shabby for what it is. Decent word of mouth I guess?Star Wars boost!
Not sure how we ended up with this trio of holiday failures on Wii U. Some huge IPs but terrible sales (1 terrible game, 1 terrible value, and Taiko... I guess it's just the 3rd in 3 years).
Impressive 101K for Wii U. Almost over 3M LTD! Good Vita & PS4 sales. Decent 3DS sales, managed to get a good bit over 2M this year thus far. Congrats on the 20M LTD!
Isn't it the worst selling game in the series though? Not counting ports or remakes.
I can see how that would scare SE off the platform, KH3DDD was one of the first major 3DS games, waning software sales of the system isn't really an excuse as that wasn't a problem at the time.
For what it's worth, the audience that the game aims at is the audience that buys games on the last week of the year, problem is that audience is mostly on PlayStation.
The game has been doing much better on Rakuten and Amazon, so I guess there's that as well, though that's on positions, so it likely went up because after the Holiday craze was done many things above it went down.
We like consoles. Portable-only gamers are far less prevalent.
NDS and Wii were incredible for quite some time. Its fun to notice how the Wii to wiiu dropoff was much smaller in Japan than in the rest of the world, with a 75% drop. Still a big one, but if that behaviouristas happened in the rest of the world, wiiu would be at something like 25 million, more than the double it is now
Lol, that's pretty accurate. Even the reveal had a somewhat serious and mysterious tone to it.Notable:
The game seems to disregard what people like about both franchises in favor of "what's popular in Japan."
It's kinda like what happened to Insomniac's Overstrike, only more Japanese.
LordOcidax
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Did somebody have the Week 53 2014 Wii U sales numbers? Thanks
Ōkami;190798395 said:
I should have noted that I didn't buy what I typed as I don't think it would have mattered so I probably should have typed faint faint hope. The other thing is I don't expect legs on this at all as the load times are really really bad on disc, and news of that should have spread like wildfire.
You expected something as dark and macabre as Bersek in a fire emblem x smt cross over?
Didn't said that.
Just that to some if would've been less shocking than seeing the game at #13.
Then again, I just don't like the term "bomb" or "bomba", since it's thrown around too much. XD
Like Super Mystery Dungeon bombed with 200k...people that have called The Force Awakens a bomba at the box office, because "only $149 million in the first day".
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Even the Japanese hate the idea of Fire Emblem in a J-Pop universe. I wonder if they'll still release it overseas after this. If it sells this terribly in Japan (during the holidays no less), it can only be worse everywhere else.
theprodigy
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That has everything to do with the Wii not really taking off in Japan the same way it did elsewhere (NES and SNES both comfortably beat Wii in Japan, obviously not the case anywhere else).
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I don't know what is Berserk, but I certainly wasn't expecting Hyperdimension Persona, that's for sure.
LordOcidax
Member
lolol. Ok thanks.
Pennywise83
Banned
It is at 250k; it should do 350-400k pretty easily, which would be a drop wrt the prequel but still a huge number.
Ōkami;190798395 said:
How much did BbS sold? I have the feeling it sold like crap in Western countries so this might offset the stellar Japan performance (3D sold badly in Japan but well elsewhere).
Tizoc
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Hmm fair enough, wonder if were to do better if it was just traditional SMT designs mixed with FE gameplay and characters.
Lol shhh
*Stumbles in here*
Man Splatoon could have really been a game changer is it had released earlier. Really highlights how a few pieces of influential software can shape the life of a console. Halo 1 defined the Xbox, Wii Sports pushed the Wii into the mainstream, etc.
"I don't like it or care for it so fuck the developers, fuck anybody who liked it and fuck relatively good impressions!"
C'mon people. Do you really think of yourselves as adults in this situation? Are you really not able to read back what you wrote and see how petty it is? Like its fine not to care about/like the game but wishing ill on it is too much. I feel I grew out of that phase of my gaming life years ago ("ugh why its Brown Shooter X selling 23513132 copies!"). I surprised others haven't as well
Man Splatoon could have really been a game changer is it had released earlier. Really highlights how a few pieces of influential software can shape the life of a console. Halo 1 defined the Xbox, Wii Sports pushed the Wii into the mainstream, etc.
Yup. Plus they really should have never teased it as, well, a SMTxFE game. Bomb harder than the Tsar Bomba, you disappointing Tokyo idol dating game!
"I don't like it or care for it so fuck the developers, fuck anybody who liked it and fuck relatively good impressions!"
C'mon people. Do you really think of yourselves as adults in this situation? Are you really not able to read back what you wrote and see how petty it is? Like its fine not to care about/like the game but wishing ill on it is too much. I feel I grew out of that phase of my gaming life years ago ("ugh why its Brown Shooter X selling 23513132 copies!"). I surprised others haven't as well
Soapbox Killer
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Wii U sales, the enigma of our time.
BbS shifted 1.27 million copies WW a few months after its western launch. DDD is likely the lowest seller.
The first 3DS was a late port as well and kids had no issue buying it. The 3DS-exclusive LBX, while a quasi-spinoff, is also the worst selling entry in the series.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Don't forget that Namco also worked on Smash, has Pokken in the works, etc. Namco supported the Wii U pretty heavily
.What kind of revisionist history is this?
Capcom had the following series on 3DS, RE: Revelations, Street Fighter IV, Monster Hunter, and Ace Attorney. RE was disappointing according to Capcom despite selling similar numbers on the HD up-port, but Monster Hunter had a very successful transition, Ace Attorney continued to do well. SF4 was the best selling game on the 3DS worldwide for a while (over 1M copies WW iirc). It's not like Capcom does much apart from MH & Ace Attorney any more though... SF5 had to be co-published by Sony lol. Capcom will be back for MH and expanded MH for NX which is all that matters for Japan.
Namco - Tales of the Abyss did pretty well for a port. Ridge Racer did a bit worse than the last entry on PS3 (Ridge Racer 7 30,318 149,648 vs. about 100K for RR3D).
Layton & Inazuma were mismanaged but Fantasy Life and Youkai Watch (esp) came out of 3DS. Theatrhythm actually did better on 3DS than mobile that they continued to launch 3DS games over mobile (Curtain Call, & Dragon Quest). Bravely Second only died because Square Enix decried it. Dragon Quest did gangbusters on 3DS. KH3D did fine. It was the 2nd best selling 3DS third party title in the US (over 400K) back in 2012. Bombed is way too strong of a word for it.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I'm pretty sure the RPG audience is on the PS4 and not the Wii U, though. The west is even less like Japan in that they aren't willing to buy a console for one game.
Sure, as I said japanese sales were disappointing.Ōkami;190798395 said:
But it's not that other handheld KH did much better.
Kingdom Hearts series shipment worldwide (sorry for the low quality image, did a quick and dirt job):
EDIT:
All those numbers were rounded to closest 100K by Square Enix with exception of Chain of Memories.
theprodigy
Member
"I don't like it or care for it so fuck the developers, fuck anybody who liked it and fuck relatively good impressions!"
C'mon people. Do you really think of yourselves as adults in this situation? Are you really not able to read back what you wrote and see how petty it is? Like its fine not to care about/like the game but wishing ill on it is too much. I feel I grew out of that phase of my gaming life years ago ("ugh why its Brown Shooter X selling 23513132 copies!"). I surprised others haven't as well
this is where we send out the Amir0x signal right
Well generally when a game declines over multiple releases in a generation, you want the next generation(with higher production values) to rebound sales.
KH3D is still probably the (second) lowest selling console KH despite that. Theatrhythm did okay but what helped it get a sequel was the massive amount of expensive DLC.
SSFIV3D hit the bomba bins really quick and Capcom never ported the other version of SSFIV or made any attempt at their other fighting games.
The bolded is possible but publishers definitely had higher expectations and in some cases they did directly blame the 3DS.
Capcom does have lots of releases elsewhere. Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Sengoku Basara, Dragon's Dogma, Breath of Fire(tollolol) and it is extremely notable that they went from publishing lots of different brands to just two. Any attempt to dismiss that is laughable.
Youkai Watch came well after the 3DS was established. I was asked about who was burnt early on which is why I didn't mention any recent bombs, I was strictly talking about early on in the 3DS' life. To address Youkai Watch, Level 5 won't make the same mistake they did with Layton and make it NX/4DS exclusive.
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It might have beat Re:Coded which is something I guess.
Didn't the new FE games basically revive the franchise? The circumstances behind #FE are so different that I don't see IS learning any kind of lesson to apply towards the main series.
They aren't going to cancel it.