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[Shuggananas]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

people still using ebay in 2016 smh

 

[Cleve]

I make over 6 figures and buy most every electronic that comes out and even I went "lol nope" at that price because there is nothing that justifies it, if you think some average joe is going to drop that kinda money on it I have a bridge to sell you.

No way average joes will drop the money for it. It's a new product, average joes aren't the market. There's more than enough people chomping at the bit to load the page for things that the FACEBOOK cdn is having errors. There's plenty of people looking to buy one, even if it's not the average joes.

Shit, I know people that spent more on single speakers than what it costs for a rift + pc. That's even more insane to me.

 

[mckmas8808]

WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lettuce]

Wow.


I hope PSVR is cheaper.

Has Sony made an announcement yet confirming there will indeed be a 'Processor box' bundled with the PSVR?

If so i cant see how it can be cheaper than $599, unless their willing to sell at a lost but that doesn't make goods business sense as VR is an untested market at this point in time!

 

[Leafhopper]

Should've backed it on Kickstarter lol

Oh yeah that's right that looks real cheap now lol

 

[BrettWeir]

Just for SnG's, they must have met the March cap, because now the page says "Expected ship date: April 2016".

Mine said the original March 28th ship date.

 

[KurtSloane]

Add another 200 to that figure and you've got it.

You want to put a bet on that?

Would stake money on it not costing that much, will launch at a price similar to the PS4.

399.

They already gave that clue, that it would cost around the same as a system.

 

[gcubed]

well i guess there goes the idea of buying a PSVR and one of the PC versions as well

 

[Seiru]

No people won't buy this. Most people don't even have a system capable of running this. It does not compare in any way to an iphone which while it costs $1k it runs self sufficient, also it is a PHONE which is something everyone needs and uses. VR is hardly something people can live without.

I make over 6 figures and buy most every electronic that comes out and even I went "lol nope" at that price because there is nothing that justifies it, if you think some average joe is going to drop that kinda money on it I have a bridge to sell you.

Well considering orders are already pushed back to May, I would say that people are buying this

 

[PodcastFips]

+ 19% EUSt. ;-)

That's 882€ for an Oculus Rift to Germany.

Totally insane.

 

[Camp1nCarl]

But, the price of all the equipment included was $1500, and Oculus lists the price of the computer as starting at $1000. So that would mean the price was $500, not $650. And I haven't heard a single rumor about that, or about it not coming out until March or April (really, you think they aren't going to release it in Q1 2016 like they've been saying all along, up through a couple weeks ago?)

Remember when you were hounding me 2 days ago saying this in the Pre-order thread? Told ya man, plus Palmer's tweet and a Reddit "leak" pointed to this price and date.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Will this be updated when sony announces a similar price?

I know your not aware of this but....


That gif guarantees Sony isn't launching at $599

 

[TheCarrotKiller]

699€ that's ridiculous, perhaps expected but at least 100€ over the price I believed it would be.

 

[shandy706]

Dual HD screens and a new piece of tech. I guessed $700. I'm glad it's $600.

Why were people thinking less when a freaking new smart phone costs $500-$800.

 

[Gaz_RB]

More like Oculus wift. There isnt any reason this cant be done better for less.

I disagree. Probably not now. In a little while, sure, as happens with all new tech, but Oculus is one of the only companies in a position to drop this kind of high quality VR tech.

 

[nubbe]

I'm mostly annoyed that it includes the Xbone controller

 

[mr stroke]

Their Pre order system is a fucking joke



10 different cards and NONE of them work WTF?!?!


and all my cards have Rift pre charges so its not my card. Come on Facebook!

 

[gundamkyoukai]

They didn't even want to take a loss on PS4 sales, rather than a niche piece of hardware.

The answer is ignorance or inability to see big picture.

They took a lost on PS4 just like they did with PS1 and PS2.
What they did not want is taking a lost of hundreds of dollars like PS3 .
Still PSVR will be cheaper but of course it won't be as good.

 

[MassiveNights]

I don't know why everyone is shitting on it.

This was always going to be expensive and out of reach for most gamers. It's a 1st run product at the cutting edge of gaming technology.

 

[ekim]

+ 19% EUSt. ;-)

Already included.

 

[fanboi]

Well, Sony are open to selling at a loss, so who knows what they're planning. If they go $300 then they've probably killed the Rift stone dead besides a very niche audience. If they go $400 I think they'll be laughing all the way to the bank. If they go $500 that will seem fairly comparable to the pricing of the Rift, given that I'm assuming the Rift has quite a bit more going on in terms of tech.

I think anything under $400 though and Sony have got this in the bag. The only problem comes in when people need the PS Move wands and the PS4 Eye camera, which again bumps the price up by a notable degree.

Well psvr isn't for pc so... If the vive on the other hand has that price...

 

[exmachina64]

It amazes me that this has to be explained every single time for the past 10+ years.

People need to pay attention more in economics class.

Well, the U.S. is anti-intellectual so..."economics is whatever I want it to be."

 

[Dreamwriter]

I have dozens of authorizations that popped on my Apple Pay notification before my card finally went through. Showed March 2016 delivery when it did though, so I guess it kept my place in line despite all the checkout issues.

Lucky, that didn't happen to me, mine skipped to April.

 

[Raylan]

700 euros without shipping, which is probably like 50 euros.

Yeah okay, no thanks. If it was half of that, maybe, but for now I'll wait a couple of years to see if VR even takes off.

59900 bucks. That's expensive.

Hmmmm.... a new truck or an Oculus Rift? Decisions, descisions......

 

[EL CUCO]

 

[Arucardo]

Ah, if it's starting on March 28th then having April isn't that bad.

 

[imjust1n]

Heh, already Ebay prices are crazy.. here's some of the worst

Can someone tell me What is the Difference between the DK2 and CV1?

 

[Raelgun]

OMG, please save your money. It's not worth it.

have been thinking about canceling ever since pressing submit haha

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Welp. Shipping in April! Nice bait and switch, Oculus.

Their order allotment filled up for March and the rest are in April. Happens all the time, when the Surface Pro 4 went out for sale the initial batch of orders shipped in October but eventually it started to say "shipping in November" for example.

 

[Gurrry]

Didn't realize people had such weird expectations for the first few generations of VR tech.

Well seeing as it looks to be the next break through in gaming tech.. we wanted it to start off on the right foot by getting more people on board at the start. Thats how you get developers to work on VR games.

Its $600+, not alot of people are going to jump in on an unknown like that.

I still have no idea what you can even do with this thing once you get it. What VR game is everyone gonna play in April?

I imagine the library of games will remain small until it is in the hands of more people.

 

[spekkeh]

Euro price

That's more than a GearVR with the sgs6 included. And you still need a computer.

I guess at that price I'll just get the Vive at work, seeing as it seems more future proof in terms of features.

 

[Jordan117]

An intriguing pastebin claim I came across on /r/vive:

Rift: 300 custom parts, all requiring molds, tooling, materials, created by external companies and assembled on a single line. Absurdly expensive packaging, matte black heavy box with custom molded casing. High Quality IR camera, look up how much it costs to manufacture a GoPro. Tack on an xbox controller (probably not much but it adds) and this little guy again not much but its something. Comes from silicon valley. Results in a cost higher than you're expecting.

Vive: Manufactured with cheaper parts, cheaper materials, manufacturing lines that are owned by the company making it in freaking Taiwan. The lighthouses are just two motors, two lasers, LED board, single photodiode, power cable... they cost almost nothing to make. Controllers are a bit expensive but since they're ambidextrous they only need one set of molds. They don't need to subsidize development costs since that has already been handled for them. They don't need to subsidize software since thats already been done for them. All they have to do is what valve says and what their industrial designers say.

Provenance is unknown, obvs, but they haven't been wrong so far. Keep in mind that Valve and HTC were damage-controlling the Vive as a "premium" experience back when Oculus was ballparking their kit at $350. It could be a game-changer if they deliver a better experience (with touch controls) at around the same price.

 

[Ferrio]

I don't know why everyone is shitting on it.

This was always going to be expensive and out of reach for most gamers.

The price means there might be a lot of developers that say "fuck that" too. That's what bothers me.


Also this price I have to make a decision between PSVR and this.

 

[Kuga]

Why bother with tihat?

Because all of these companies surely want VR to "take off" and not just be a fad/flash in the bucket like it was in the 80's/early 90's.

When you price this kind of thing out of most "normal" peoples price range you are REALLY setting a biarrier to entry.

Would have been far faaaaaaaar wiser for all of these VR companies to eat part of the cost and make their profit on the software side and to help ensure a good adoption rate.

300 give or take a bit would have been a sweet spot that many people would have jumped on board.

600? That makes many people take a "wait and see" approach, as you can gather from many comments in this very thread.

A high barrier to entry like this is the quickest way to ensure VR stays a niche market.

Look at what happened with Blu-ray, flat screen TVs, and other flashy 'new' consumer tech: it pandered to enthusiasts for years with pricey premium models before mainstream adoption become a real possibility. Hell, 4K is just reaching that threshold and it still isn't very popular yet.

VR is that same sort of new technology with expensive manufacturing and real R&D challenges. I don't see mainstream VR becoming a reality until costs go down - and as much as we want cheap & quality VR, that isn't going to happen overnight.

On the subsidy - no company in their right mind would eat that big of a loss per unit. They probably aren't making much profit (if any) on the hardware at $600! It isn't sound business practice to be such a gigantic loss leader with competitors snapping at your heels and no guarantee that you'll be the product left standing after the melee.

Give it 3-4 years and VR will be ready for mass-market adoption. Until then, expect to be charged plenty for this new stuff.

 

[entremet]

Including an Xbox One controller is so stupid.

Why?

 

[Dictator93]

It is expensive, but really, it is also quite awesome.

 

[Anubistraveler]

I personally and not surprised by the cost but I was not planning on purchasing this anyway. Just think how many quality games you could buy for 600 bucks. Do not think many people will early adopt with this tech but I could be wrong.

 

[Wrestlemania]

Did anyone manage to place an order but not get an email notification? It's showing up in my Oculus store account with an order no.

 

[Zaki2407]

Nope.... Nope.....
Hope PSVR for US$350-400 max.....

 

[tuxfool]

I would expect your phone, console and PC to be usable 2-3 years from now, even if not top of the line. These headsets? All with differing specs and arbitrary features/controllers? You're still paying for a public beta. You may be buying HD-DVD 1.0 here.

Do I expect there to be tons of fools and their money? Sure. I also expect tons of whining and crying a year from now.

Why wouldn't it be usable? That is the whole point with the PC, long lifespan. Some people are still using their DK1s.

 

[Impulsor]

It was showing April 12 minutes after they opened it up. Seems real sketchy from where I stand

I got the Order as soon as the page loaded up for me, 9 minutes past the hour.

 

[Cleve]

Their Pre order system is a fucking joke



10 different cards and NONE of them work WTF?!?!


and all my cards have Rift pre charges so its not my card. Come on Facebook!

It's just getting hammered. It took 14 auths on my card before it took. Same card each time.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Personally going for the

I second that.

 

[Sidewinder]

Yeah well, was already out before, my PC isn't up to the task, but with that price I'm not even considering to upgrade.

Hmm now Sony really needs to hit hard, please announce a max price of 399$ ok?? That sweet spot of 299$ for the naked PSVR is definitely gone imho ;(

 

[Burbeting]

740 euros... That's close to 1000 dollars...

Thanks But no thanks, I have bills to pay .

 

[gofreak]

People think PSVR will be much less expensive? The fuck? Sony's not taking a loss on a super niche piece of hardware lol.

I think they might subsidize it... in terms of pricing strategy they've suggested it would be the same as usual e.g. price it to sell software. Though I should note that Oculus claims their price is subsidised also so maybe these things are super expensive in the first place anyway.

I can dream that the manufacturing game is different for Sony than Oculus, and that Sony can come in (much) cheaper. But I'm not sure how much that says in absolute terms. 'Even' 399 would be much cheaper at this stage (300+ euros cheaper!), and I'd have figured before that that would be on the high end for Sony. Now I'm not sure.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Guess the thing I'm irritated by is that launch window. Weren't they supposed to have stock built up for this release? Granted they've changed messaging on a lot of things but just always figured this would at least be different from the dks and we wouldn't have to wait months to start seeing shipping :/

 

[Bl@de]

Most likely 740€ because "taxes" according to Luckey

Spoiler

lucky bullshiter who talked about 300-400$ last year

Taxes? So americans pay 750$ with taxes? Because that's 699€ converted to $. 25% sales tax. Poor america, thought sales were lower over there.

That's the reason? Really? Okay, wow...

 

[imBask]

Didn't realize people had such weird expectations for the first few generations of VR tech.

if the first generation flops really hard because of the price, why would there be a second generation? that's the thing

 

[Forearm Star]

Hoping PSVR is cheaper, but would jump on it at this price.
I just don't have a capable rig =(

Pretty excited for the possibilities