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[NeOak]

First generation if I am not mistaken.

The thing I am wondering most about is, their recommended specs are for the full experience as they put it. Yet I have seen countless demos and smaller projects that were extremely simplistic in nature. I can't understand why you would need half of the specs shown to play some of these smaller titles.

So I am guessing these specs are so you can play titles like EVE Valkerie at high settings with a good framerate?

2nd gen actually.

Why are people dissing the Sandy Bridges all because of a shitty tool?

 

[BennyBlanco]

The use of "normal people" in this tweet really rubs me the wrong way.

Might as well have said plebs, lol.

I think normal people in this context is a compliment. As in the type of people with a lot of disposable income who aren't posting in NeoGAF threads about VR while at work.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

What are you guys talking about?

Doesn't mean a thing if its shipped from the US. They can include whatever they want, EU customs will ask you for 20% of the sum. If they ship from within the EU, everything is fine and dandy.

 

[Izayoi]

The i7-2600k will be just fine. It's the video card and USB 3.0 support that most should be worried about.

 

[plagiarize]

This is never going to be mainstream, have tons of casual friends who don't even want this, hear hear for the next gimmick!

The price the required hardware now is such that it's only really appealing to hard core gamers. Oculus have always said that. ALWAYS. Mainstream appeal will come later as the prices go down. Which they will.

Already a $600 smartphone can give you a decent VR experience. It won't be long before VR is *cheap* it just isn't yet.

That's why the Rift has mainly targeted gamers to date. Yes, some of the games look casual, but Oculus are funding or subsidizing those experiences. The developers adding VR support to their games are either small indy titles, or extremely hardcore games like Assetta Corsa, Elite Dangerous and such.

Consumer VR is expensive tech the very first year it finally debuted.

Go fucking figure.

 

[commish]

Wow, that's way too much. Thought Sony would be able to get their's to $299, but now thinking $399 :/

Yeah, I don't know how they couldn't provide a cutting edge home VR experience for about $250. $599 is nearly twice that!

 

[firelogic]

Wow.


I hope PSVR is cheaper.

Sony's in a tough spot with the pricing. If a person is looking to buy into VR and they see Oculus at $599 and then they see PSVR at $299 (for example) they won't be thinking, "Wow what a great deal for PSVR!" they'll be thinking, "What's wrong with PSVR?"

BUT, if they price it any higher than $299, it'll be too expensive for console gamers.

 

[Doc Holliday]

So what is driving the price so much higher than dk2? If are you going to charge that much at least have the hardware specs on the site.

 

[rtcn63]

The use of "normal people" in this tweet really rubs me the wrong way.

Might as well have said plebs, lol.

dirty plebes yo

 

[Waveset]

sony aren't competing with oculus and vive
also it's not the same market at all.

Yes they are. I'm definitely not the only one weighing up PC VR against PlayStation.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

i7-2600K is not a very powerful processor. It's many generations behind what Oculus requires.

Overclocked it'll be fine. Should be easy to get it at 4.2 to 4.5 GHz.

So what is driving the price so much higher than dk2? If are you going to charge that much at least have the hardware specs on the site.

Didn't someone already reply to you earlier in the thread explaining why it's more expensive?

 

[Occam]

What are you guys talking about?

As you can see I posted before his tweet. European media reported the price was 699 EUR + shipping + tax.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Jesus Christ.

I hope that PSVR is cheaper! Or I'm gonna have to wait out, because the price of the dollar in my country is gonna baloon the retail price. Crap.

 

[Melon Husk]

I don't know if Sony will even bother with any PSVR bundles with move controllers. Maybe just relaunch them as PSVR accessories separately. ds4 is enough on its own and keeps the perceived entry price down. (I have a couple of move controllers in the cupboard so looking forward to dreams etc using those..)

I'd like to see $399 without camera, $450 with.

Doesn't mean a thing if its shipped from the US. They can include whatever they want, EU customs will ask you for 20% of the sum. If they ship from within the EU, everything is fine and dandy.

And you don't have a source.

 

[Impulsor]

What are you guys talking about?

PERFECT. I supposed as much. That explains the 741€ cost already. Customs are expensive.

 

[xaosslug]

sent to die. smh

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Put a hold on those ROG Swift, people

 

[Ingueferroque]

The use of "normal people" in this tweet really rubs me the wrong way.

Might as well have said plebs, lol.

Norms!

 

[Kirtaner]

Wowza, my preorder is estimated to ship in May

 

[JigglesBunny]

$600 is definitely fine as long as it doesn't charge until ship....
Fuck it, I'm buying it.

 

[Xplatformer]

And the one or two games to justify the $600 cost would be??

Seriously...

Oculus or PS4

No brainer. Not even Squadron 42 will support the damn thing on PC.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

There will also be 40 million PS4s in the hands of consumers by the time PSVR launches.

Next year by this time, it'll be around 50 million. If five out of 100 owners also buy PSVR, 2,5 million of them would be sold.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Uh oh... Definitely sharing the bad feeling with lots of people.
This will make them lots of money but won't help VR go mainstream, I guess it's not going to be their first intention with this release. .

Consider the kind of PC needed to run a Rift, and then explain to me what price would have helped VR go mainstream in this first iteration? It was never happening. Doesn't matter if the Rift was $299 instead of $599. When your target consumer is "people with monster gaming PCs" you aren't angling for mainstream acceptance. Oculus knew this. They've been dropping hints about it for a while now. It doesn't need be "mainstream" for this first iteration to be successful.

 

[Maxim726X]

DOA.

No way this gains any market traction now, and no way anyone is going to develop games for it.

Oh well. Maybe they'll get it right in 10 years when they try again.

 

[MarineMountie]

Yes they are. I'm definitely not the only one weighing up PC VR against PlayStation.

If there is a way for Sony to make PSVR compatible with PC, they need to come out today and announce that shit. If its possible, they just won the VR war.

 

[the-pi-guy]

What is this shit?

The i7-2600, due to being older, is actually slower than the i5-4590.

 

[BrettWeir]

Y'all are crazy if you think the Vive will be even remotely close to the same price as the Rift. With the lighthouses, and their mention of it being a 'Premium VR experience", I'm betting it's closer to $800 for a Vive.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Surprised and a little disappointed given their "in the ballpark" of the $350 DK2, but still in. Early adoption is expensive and I'm ok with that ultimately.

I guess it's a huge ballpark. I told you his comments were alluding to it being way more expensive than people were expecting.

 

[Tevos]

I think the thing that bothers me most about this is that Palmer clearly does not know what the word "subsidized" means.

What does this version have that causes it to be so much more than the dev kits, ESPECIALLY when the price of supposedly subsidized?

 

[Pathfinder]

First generation if I am not mistaken.

The thing I am wondering most about is, their recommended specs are for the full experience as they put it. Yet I have seen countless demos and smaller projects that were extremely simplistic in nature. I can't understand why you would need half of the specs shown to play some of these smaller titles.

So I am guessing these specs are so you can play titles like EVE Valkerie at high settings with a good framerate?

They are most likely making the baseline pretty high for customer experience reasons. They probably want to make sure all titles will run decently and not just the smaller ones.

 

[Chance Hale]

And the one or two games to justify the $600 cost would be??

Seriously...

Oculus or PS4

No brainer. Not even Squadron 42 will support the damn thing on PC.

It's very much a no brainer to not have high hopes for VR on the platform that can barely run it's own exclusives at 30 FPS.

 

[InaudibleWhispa]

First generation if I am not mistaken.

The thing I am wondering most about is, their recommended specs are for the full experience as they put it. Yet I have seen countless demos and smaller projects that were extremely simplistic in nature. I can't understand why you would need half of the specs shown to play some of these smaller titles.

So I am guessing these specs are so you can play titles like EVE Valkerie at high settings with a good framerate?

Yes, there will be plenty of games that won't require exactly those recommended specs or better. They're just so you can feel confident that you can play the vast majority of games, and its something for developers to target.

Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about the CPU not meeting the recommended specs as long as you have a decent i5/i7. The CPU offers a bit more leeway, especially if you can overclock. You'd be better off doing the 3DMark benchmark and seeing if you pass the 9000 score Palmer said would be fine for VR.

 

[NeOak]

The i7-2600, due to being older, is actually slower than the i5-4590.

You forgot the K.

You also forgot you can overclock it.

 

[Qassim]

Y'all are crazy if you think the Vive will be even remotely close to the same price as the Rift. With the lighthouses, and their mention of it being a 'Premium VR experience", I'm betting it's closer to $800 for a Vive.

It's entirely possible they'll sell the HMD by itself.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

consider my order cancelled if i have to wait til may because of all this bs. No confirmation email but i do see it in order history.

 

[MMaRsu]

Damn.. Thats crazy expensive

I

 

[Shifty1897]

VR's dead before it even shot out the gate at that price.

 

[harSon]

Don't shed any tears for early adopters. Anyone with a March or April arrival can probably profit $1k on eBay. And I doubt many people will even be willing to flip theirs, since the consumer rift is legit Goodbye Real World.

It's starting to look like I can easily subsidize the cost of this with my DK2 as well

 

[opticalmace]

You forgot the K.

You also forgot you can overclock it.

and it has hyperthreading.

The 2600k will be fine. Never trust compatibility tools.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

I'd like to see $399 without camera, $450 with.



And you don't have a source.

I never said its shipped from the US. I just said that IF it is shipped from the US EU import tax is on.

 

[Flandy]

Now I pray that PSVR is $350 or below :\

 

[Doc Holliday]

Overclocked it'll be fine. Should be easy to get it at 4.2 to 4.5 GHz.



Didn't someone already reply to you earlier in the thread explaining why it's more expensive?

Sorry missed it...


That said, they should have had the specs on the site. Also I think I wouldn't mind skipping on the audio if it would have made everything cheaper.

I also wouldn't have minded the price much if I dint need to upgrade my machine as well :/

 

[Izayoi]

DOA.

No way this gains any market traction now, and no way anyone is going to develop games for it.

Oh well. Maybe they'll get it right in 10 years when they try again.

This kind of rhetoric is hilarious to me.

Are you really so short sighted?

 

[demolitio]

Anyone want an original Vita for 600 bucks?

This is why I bought trackir for the time being.

 

[EricGRIT09]

Sorry if it had been linked before, but can someone provide the link for the system readiness checker? I've looked on the Oculus site briefly and couldn't find it.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Blobbers]

This hit of realism just made me change my initial prediction of PSVR's price from $99-$149 to at least $249-$299.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Yup, because emergent tech really depends solely on initial price point. History proves this point

The first iterations of :

• TV

• Computer

• Cell phone

• HDTV

• printer

• 3D printer

• etc..

were all DOA.

It's been "emerging" for the past 20 years. I thought the point of machines like the Rift was to get it out there for the mainstream. That's why the initial devkits were $300. It's true that the price would come down but I think it's high barrier of entry will hurt it more in the long run.

 

[commish]

Consider the kind of PC needed to run a Rift, and then explain to me what price would have helped VR go mainstream in this first iteration? It was never happening. Doesn't matter if the Rift was $299 instead of $599. When your target consumer is "people with monster gaming PCs" you aren't angling for mainstream acceptance. Oculus knew this. They've been dropping hints about it for a while now. It doesn't need be "mainstream" for this first iteration to be successful.

I thought EVERYONE knew this, which is why all these "omg 599? it's dead" posts are baffling. This has literally been the plan all along, for years, and the devs have never said otherwise.

 

[jony_m]

Any word if there will be amazon pre-orders? Otherwise I'll see you again in around May/June once it hits Amazon.

I hate paying for shipping in 2016 + the bundle rubs me wrong... I assume DS4+ds4windows will work.

 

[spannicus]

Most reviews ive read about VR claim the Vive trumps both OR and PSVR. But then we know the price will be imsane.