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And bethesda games through mods. Among other things.
Fair point! I feel like this is first to market though so it may still apply. The Samsung VR came and went with little marketing (that I could see) and little software to support it. This feels like the first "Big Step" for VR.
I could be wrong though!
We will! Can't wait!
I'm happy with how games are played right now (similar to how I was happy without using 3D on TVs) so if VR dies isn't going to have a big impact on my life. But if it lives, it could change it quite a bit!
Krappadizzle
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I could buy 2 cars for that much. OUTRAGE!
SchrodingerC
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I'm sure the Oculus will be nice to own in about, oh...3 years or so.
Hopefully the competition is better priced.
Hopefully the competition is better priced.
How good is the result though ? I'm assuming since they don't directly use their API, the end-result is not as good as if it was built for Oculus.
InaudibleWhispa
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Where? The only misleading comment I can recall is from 5 months ago when Palmer said "it'll be more expensive than $350, but in that ballpark". Most other estimates of price from them were "$1500 for PC and rift" which is more or less accurate. They changed messaging on price when they were bought by Facebook and could afford to go for much better custom hardware which they readily admitted would make it more expensive.
Where have they said "We want to bring cheap VR to the mainstream masses on day 1". They aren't targeting the mainstream with something that requires a $1000 PC. They've talked about a 10 year road to mainstream VR. Doing it via the mobile market. The CV1 was never their attempt at mainstream VR success, it's for early-adopters, and enthusiasts.
plagiarize
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Dirt Rally support is completely native. No third party things required. Minecraft via mods, with official support to follow.
Idk man, lots of rich kids out there. Three of my friends have pre-ordered it already and when I messaged them asking "Why?" they respond with "Dude think of how cool 'this' or 'that' game will be with it". There are many people with money, many streamers too that think this is something they can stream...(its not) that are buying it without prior knowledge,
Fried Food
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Don't know about minecraft, but probably, Dirt Rally defiantly has support for DK2
Betta Lines
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Quite likely I think, if not day one it'll be ASAP after launch, same with many sims. But I've never rated PCARS' experimental VR implementation up to now. AC, LFS, R3E and iRacing were better experiences for me.
It will be a lotttt of fun to look back at and read in a couple years.
Quote me on it, make a thread and tell me to eat crow in 5 years if I'm wrong.
Of course, trying it would automatically mean it's a success story. Is it a neat concept? Sure. Does it have the potential to take off when you take a multitude of variables into account, no. People are making out VR like it's the damn holodeck.
Why should it? The cost of the microelectronics of the total cost can't be that high. It has to be optics and assembly. That part of the total costs doesn't get cheaper.
Occulus Rift mission was to change that. The promise was that with simple tech like accelerometers and phone displays they could realize VR Headsets for the masses.
They just announced that they failed at that. Probably because it just wasn't as easy as Palmer Lucky and Carmack imagined. But also because suddenly it needs a remote, a custom gamepad, a microphone and headphones and a closed marketplace to work.
People have to remember that all new tech is pricey. VCR's were like $300, DVD players were $1000, 4K TVs were tens of thousands of dollars when they launched. Not everyone is going to be an early adopter of VR. Some day, years from now, VR may be as cheap as $100 glasses or whatever, but for now, it is pricey.
Everyone sits here and says, I would pay $500 for this, but not $600. Well that is your choice. Just like maybe you wouldn't have paid $599 for a PS3 when it launched and waited until it was $100 cheaper before you dove in.
Who honestly expected that some high end tech in a field that is only barely beginning was going to cost them $250?
If a steering wheel accessory for a PC can cost $200-300 dollars, I would fully expect something that has dual HD screens, sensors, a camera, controller, remote, pack in games, etc to cost north of $500.
Everyone sits here and says, I would pay $500 for this, but not $600. Well that is your choice. Just like maybe you wouldn't have paid $599 for a PS3 when it launched and waited until it was $100 cheaper before you dove in.
Who honestly expected that some high end tech in a field that is only barely beginning was going to cost them $250?
If a steering wheel accessory for a PC can cost $200-300 dollars, I would fully expect something that has dual HD screens, sensors, a camera, controller, remote, pack in games, etc to cost north of $500.
Sony learnt from their next console and didn't price it at $599
Fuck me, I'm keeping the rift. I don't care, this is amazing news for me.
Show me a non-hobbled self-built Oculus capable PC for less than $1000, because with tax and shipping it can't be done.
I would have bought Oculus at $500. That last $100 makes a difference to me (and how I see this playing out).
Shifty Capone1
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100% this. I feel like people who haven't tried any of the newer generation VRs don't get it. If they ever want it to be mainstream adopted, they need to be done correctly the first time. If that requires a high entry point for enthusiasts they will do it. Word of mouth will go far because of how good the product is. If the product was mediocre for $300-$400 people would be happy now and they would likely get more orders, but when they arrive it'll be lackluster. At that point people would be up in arms that they spend $300-$400 on a bad product.
For the novelty, much like the Wii, if they manage to get good word of mouth people can be interested on it even if they are not really into games
Netrunner2k2
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I'm waiting on the Vive because of Valve, but this price doesn't shock me. I expected something like this. I expect the Vive to be more and I'm ready to pay that much. As a PC gamer, I am used to and WANT to be able to buy the highest-priced products that are quality. I expect the Vive to be of incredible quality.
No in year 3 the problem will be. "where are all the AAA games and experiences".
And the answer will be. It's not financially feasible to make AAA games no a niche crown.
Same line people used for PS3 and in some cases even now for PS4.
Officerrob
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Lets not just ignore that one of the major things Sony got right was coming to market at a consumer friendly price.
Wait until HTC announces the price for the Vive next month, that'll be the barometer for what Oculus is doing with the Rift.
I don't think a lot of ppl understand the bolded. Oculus alrdy has a cheap entry level consumer VR device in Gear VR. It was the whole point of the Oculus/Samsung partnership. Gear VR is their entry level device and Rift is their premium device as it stands today.
Well.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7n5kRRHDpw
Good enough it looks like. Though, with the caveat that people had problems reading menus with the DK1(plenty of improvements since).
Jacksinthe
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About 200 more than I am willing to pay. I'll wait for the software on this one.
Mister Wolf
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Does anyone on here use a nvidia 980m for their occulus development kits? How does it hold up?
Chance Hale
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Do a perma-ban bet please <3
NoFaceNico
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Good post.
I hate it when people bring out Rogers Curve. It's modern marketing's version of pointing to a mystical prophecy inscribed on a cave wall.
If you look at any new tech product that failed, that curve didn't predict shit.
I really get concerned with early iterations of technology because they're usually the ones that fail. Most of the time when something gets mass market appeal, it's because a competitor came in and solved a problem the original creator couldn't overcome. What, do you think Henry Ford invented the first car?
This basically. Palmer usually comes across as a nice enough guy who's super passionate about his product, but in this instance he's being a bit harsh. I imagine he's super stressed about announcing the price and seeing all the negative feedback. He should leave the internet for a few hours.
At the same time, people are reading too much into this comment, the amount of "fuck this guy" replies on gaf about it are a bit much. It's a dumb thing, no need to keep insulting him over it.
Great launch price. You get one?
Just over £300? It's £530 plus a possibly large amount of customs money (we have no clue yet).
mrchampipi
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Even though it's 100$ more expensive than what I expected, I'm ok with the pricing.
What I'm definitely not ok with is the whole tax and shipping thing. I thought this was the consumer version?
This is the worldwide launch from a company that got bought by FB? Get out of town! For this reason alone will I not pre-order (well, also because I'm waiting for the vive...)
What I'm definitely not ok with is the whole tax and shipping thing. I thought this was the consumer version?
This is the worldwide launch from a company that got bought by FB? Get out of town! For this reason alone will I not pre-order (well, also because I'm waiting for the vive...)
Even at 300$ all of this VR stuff will fail miserably if the devs doesn't use it. Just like everything else
This whole VR stuff desperately need a system seller / game changer which it doesn't have right now. Or I haven't heard of it yet!?
Blow my fucking mind and I'll lay down 1000$ today. Not with a Job simulator game or some tech demos
This whole VR stuff desperately need a system seller / game changer which it doesn't have right now. Or I haven't heard of it yet!?
Blow my fucking mind and I'll lay down 1000$ today. Not with a Job simulator game or some tech demos
Ninja Scooter
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This thing is not trying to be the Wii, and nobody involved has given any indication that this is he case. Their expectations are clearly tempered. If OR was producing like 10 million of these headsets expecting them to fly off shelves id say they were delusional. But that's not what is happening here.
What makes you think they haven't already?
curiouscharles
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lol, $600.00 USD?
so, like, $12,000,000.00 CAD?
yeah i'm in.
so, like, $12,000,000.00 CAD?
yeah i'm in.
not
alexbull_uk
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The 3rd-party tools only work for a limited set of games that have been tested and optimized, so the result is generally pretty good. The tool I saw works for 150 games right now.
Support for each of those 150 games is dependent on the game, but it seems to vary from 'near-perfect' to 'playable'.
Something like a player for movies or a TV has MUCH more mass market appeal than a VR headset. Video game consoles have a MUCH larger market too.. We're talking about a VR headset that already has a niche group with interest. That group then gets whittled down b/c many people's PC's can't accommodate it.
Now you're left with a small group that can a) care and want one, b) can afford the high price, and c) have a PC that will enable it.
People's overreactions are a bit of a joke, yes.
Woody Invincible
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How many people in this thread spewing garbage were even interested in buying one in the first place?
Fine. Have you tried it yet. Not a quick demo, but actually used a Rift for any length of time? Serious question.
ShinMaruku
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I wonder if the promise of VR is making people misread things?
You can buy bundles starting at $1499. You can absolutely build your own PC with the required specs for <$1000.
captjohnboyd
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I wonder if anyone would care to guess at how big a step down the psvr will be compared to oculus?
I'll obviously be getting the psvr first because I simply can't afford the rift AND building a computer but I've seen several people in this thread comment about how you'll get what you pay for with both headsets. They're both going to be good and "worth it" for what you're paying.
It's subjective I know and probably not very easy to describe, but what will the big differences be between the two? What, that costs so much more in the oculus, will put it ahead of psvr?
I'll obviously be getting the psvr first because I simply can't afford the rift AND building a computer but I've seen several people in this thread comment about how you'll get what you pay for with both headsets. They're both going to be good and "worth it" for what you're paying.
It's subjective I know and probably not very easy to describe, but what will the big differences be between the two? What, that costs so much more in the oculus, will put it ahead of psvr?