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[LocalE]

Yeah, and my parents believe that they're literally drinking blood and eating flesh when they take communion. Tons of people believe in the power of prayer. Having factually incorrect beliefs doesn't make you delusional or mentally ill. The question is whether you're hurting yourself or others by your irrational belief - and the only way she's hurting herself is because of dickweeds giving her shit for it.

But again, it's not so much about her as it is about you guys - about what your instinctive reaction is when you're confronted with weirdness that, as they say, neither breaks your arm nor picks your pocket. If it's harmless, but stupid/not justifiable/ even untrue, what's your reaction? this thread doesn't make me optimistic that we've gleaned the deeper lessons we should have from the struggle for gay rights.

I like this post.

Isn't it lovely that acceptance of homosexuality and trans has come so far that it's now ok to shit on and ostracise other people with identity issues.

"Got mine, fuck you" though, amirite.

urite.

Totally different animal.

Ha, I see what you did there.

 

[mollipen]

What makes them so fundamentally different?

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

Then, is it possible for two human being to have sex, and have the fetus meant to develop as a cat, and then something goes "wrong" where it develops as a human instead?

If you want to get into metaphysical explanations, sure, maybe. But good lord, the logic behind those two situations is so utterly different that it shouldn't need to be explained. Ever. There are actual scientific explanations / possibilities at play for someone who is transgender. There is absolutely no possible way a person was meant to develop as a cat and instead developed as a human with some amount of cat wiring.

 

[maquiladora]

I've been reading up on a lot of the -kin terminology. And there is a lot. Cladotherianthrope, Contherianthrope, Polytherian....but this...

Spacekin is an umbrella term for all those who identify as a part of outer space or outer space itself.

http://otherkin.wikia.com/wiki/Spacekin

 

[ironcreed]

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

Then, is it possible for two human being to have sex, and have the fetus meant to develop as a cat, and then something goes "wrong" where it develops as a human instead?

If you want to get into metaphysical explanations, sure, maybe. But good lord, the logic behind those two situations is so utterly different that it shouldn't need to be explained. Ever. There are actual scientific explanations / possibilities at play for someone who is transgender. There is absolutely no possible way a person was meant to develop as a cat and instead developed as a human with some amount of cat wiring.

All that needs to be said, really.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

This whole discussion on whether they would one day legally be considered the animal they identify as ponders the question...if, by some stretch of the imagination, otherkin becomes a legal identification does that mean if someone who is not otherkin has sexual intercourse with someone who identifies as an otherkin, they would be committing bestiality in the eyes of the law?

 

[Dugna]

This whole discussion on whether they would ome day legally be considered the animal they identify as ponders the question...if, by some stretch of the imagination, otherkin becomes a legal identification does that mean if someone who is not otherkin has sexual intercourse with someone who identifies as an otherkin, they would be committing bestiality in the eyes of the law?

No because if we got the point where we stupidly accepted Otherkins as something, then beastiality laws wouldn't exist anymore. It would just be sex

 

[ironcreed]

I've been reading up on a lot of the -kin terminology. And there is a lot. Cladotherianthrope, Contherianthrope, Polytherian....but this...



http://otherkin.wikia.com/wiki/Spacekin

Spacekin, LMFAO.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

I've been reading up on a lot of the -kin terminology. And there is a lot. Cladotherianthrope, Contherianthrope, Polytherian....but this...



http://otherkin.wikia.com/wiki/Spacekin

I'm the dark matter scientists have been looking for.

 

[Rimon-hanit]

This is ridiculous but w/e I'll bite:

1. Their is an actual option for a person to be born with a gender that doesn't match their sex.

2. Even if we say their isn't any biological foundation for transexualty, a human identifying himself as human is beneficial for a human society as a all.

I can call the first option a essentialistic argument and the second a Utilitaristic one.
I can expend on both of them significantly and apart from those to two, I am sure there are countless other reasons for why equating this situation to transsexualism is both ridiculous and extremely offensive.

Now as long as she doesn't hurt anyone else (including animals), I don't give shit, she is most definitely hurting herself, so if I was a more compassionate person I might.

 

[Alcotholic]

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

Then, is it possible for two human being to have sex, and have the fetus meant to develop as a cat, and then something goes "wrong" where it develops as a human instead?

If you want to get into metaphysical explanations, sure, maybe. But good lord, the logic behind those two situations is so utterly different that it shouldn't need to be explained. Ever. There are actual scientific explanations / possibilities at play for someone who is transgender. There is absolutely no possible way a person was meant to develop as a cat and instead developed as a human with some amount of cat wiring.

Just imagining the second situation go down made me laugh. Thanks for logically breaking it down.

 

[Crash Station]

Because it's literally impossible. How is this simple fact not being understood?

What if at some point in the future, it's found to be not impossible?

 

[perfectchaos007]

If she applied for a job, would the employer get in trouble if he denied her application based on her cat identity? Would that be discrimination?

 

[NCR Redslayer]

I've been reading up on a lot of the -kin terminology. And there is a lot. Cladotherianthrope, Contherianthrope, Polytherian....but this...



http://otherkin.wikia.com/wiki/Spacekin

Bloodborne seems less strange now.

 

[DarkHeartedKill]

If she applied for a job, would the employer get in trouble if he denied her application based on her cat identity? Would that be discrimination?

Would they even have to pay her?

 

[Moral Panic]

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

I truly don't know? There's no test you can take that can tell me what happened to the person in the womb. A person who looks like a man, dresses in clothing customarily identified as male, talks in ways customarily identified as male and if that person says they are a woman who the hell am I to say that they are wrong or they are lying? I don't know what is really going on, and I have no idea of what is possible and what is impossible. And it has no real regard to anything whether I deem it so or not. If my attitude and behaviour to you is purely dependant on whether I can understand you then I am no better than the bigot or racist, I just have a better cover.

 

[Pork]

If she applied for a job, would the employer get in trouble if he denied her application based on her cat identity? Would that be discrimination?

Sexuality/gender based discrimination used to be legal too.

 

[SchrodingerC]

She's not even taking the cat aspects far enough if she indeed identifies as a cat. As of right now she is just some animu cat-girl, like the a Rachel Dolezal for cats.

If she's happy, well good for her, but Trans-species my ass.

 

[Annubis]

Would they even have to pay her?

Some animal actors receive pay. So I'd say yes.
http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/money/the-highest-paid-animal-actors/?view=all

 

[Alligatorjandro]

This is absolutely absurd

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

If she applied for a job, would the employer get in trouble if he denied her application based on her cat identity? Would that be discrimination?

"Cats can't operate the copier! Your qualifications are suspect."

Spoiler

Lovin this thread

 

[AnathemicOne]

I anticipated something far more disturbing.

You weren't the only one.

 

[Thelonelykoopa]

I've been reading up on a lot of the -kin terminology. And there is a lot. Cladotherianthrope, Contherianthrope, Polytherian....but this...



http://otherkin.wikia.com/wiki/Spacekin

Well this one is technically correct but we don't have to identify as it as we all are space material. It would be like if I said "I Identify as a Carbonkin well duh.

 

[mollipen]

I don't know? Is it? Even if it is there's no test you can take that can tell whether this happened to that person, for all I know they could be making it up. A person who looks like a man, dresses in clothing customarily identified as male, talks in ways customarily identified as male and if that person says they are a woman who the hell am I to say that they are wrong or they are lying? I don't know what is really going on, and I have no idea of what is possible and what is impossible. And it has no real regard to anything whether I deem it so or not. If my attitude and behaviour to you is purely dependant on whether I can understand you then I am no better than the bigot or racist, I just have a better cover.

If you want to say "ah, this transgender stuff is so crazy, I don't understand any of it," that's fine. You can do that.

But it cannot be compared to a girl thinking that her two human parents came together, had sex, and her mother's fertilized egg was meant to turn into a cat.

 

[Rayis]

I've always been indifferent about people who think they're animals, If they want to believe they're animals more power to them, they're not harming anyone.

 

[Thelonelykoopa]

Really though they clearly are behaviorally human . The only time I could see this actually developing is cases of Wild Children and this is after birth cases due to Parental Abuse and abandonment.

 

[Moral Panic]

If you want to say "ah, this transgender stuff is so crazy, I don't understand any of it," that's fine. You can do that.

But it cannot be compared to a girl thinking that her two human parents came together, had sex, and her mother's fertilized egg was meant to turn into a cat.

Is it the science of it that makes it the firm issue for you? For me, from reading GAF, the guardian and other "liberal" places it has more been about the personal experiences people have had, which I feel is completely divorced from any scientific or rational explanation as to why. But I suppose in times like this where you need to have a firm line, me not truly grasping that fundamental dividing argument is quite wrong. It appears I may have made myself look a bit silly, but I am glad I have argued my piece and with so have learnt a lot.

 

[Messofanego]

Reminded of Donnie Darko.

 

[Nafai1123]

I bet she wouldn't identify as a cat if her human rights were taken away.

 

[mollipen]

Is it the science of it that makes it the firm issue for you? For me, from reading GAF, the guardian and other "liberal" places it has more been about the personal experiences people have had, which I feel is completely divorced from any scientific or rational explanation as to why.

On some level, it is personal experience, definitely. It's like, if you ask someone "do you believe in God?" and they say yes and you ask for an explanation as to why, a lot of their reasons will no doubt be built on personal experience. And this doesn't get into the soul, if you believe in that, and how that can complicate things.

But I think, in terms of the transgender topic, if there were not the potential for scientific explanation as to why someone would turn out trans, then yeah—I do think that would likely cause my ability to believe in the concept to take a hit.

 

[GameAddict411]

I love how some people are comparing this to sexual orientation or gender identity, but there are biological explanation to those, but a cat inside a woman's body? How is that remotely possible given how we are completely different species.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

Wow, Gaf is insane. Like, accepting to a fucking fault.

 

[injurai]

Being from Scandinavia, I can tell you this is what happens when people have too few real problems.

and not enough sunlight

Wow, Gaf is insane. Like, accepting to a fucking fault.

gaf has some ptsd for not being liberal enough on these sorts of topics, always the need to hedge now

 

[Ploid 3.0]

This is exactly what I expected. I ended up on a youtube video once where a girl was explaining how she was her boyfriend's cat (meow cat), and it was a thing they did and he'd buy her cat toys and such. Maybe this is part of that cat life.

 

[Crash Station]

Wow, Gaf is insane. Like, accepting to a fucking fault.

Here's my rule: not hurting anyone or infringing on the rights of others, not worth my malice.

Transable is the only thing that I'm super conflicted on.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Wow, Gaf is insane. Like, accepting to a fucking fault.

So, you accept it? Or is there a user named GAF you are referring to?

 

[cpp_is_king]

If we're all into being accepting of things that are literally impossible, then let me be the first to tell you that I'm literally God, I was just reborn into the body of a human. Accept me or suffer the consequences.

 

[NCR Redslayer]

It's always felines, bunnies or dogs.

Posers. We fish people were the first!

#Cthulhuforlife

 

[Ekai]

If we're all into being accepting of things that are literally impossible, then let me be the first to tell you that I'm literally God, I was just reborn into the body of a human. Accept me or suffer the consequences.

You certainly seem like a sensible individual who respects others in discussion.

 

[Pork]

Here's my rule: not hurting anyone or infringing on the rights of others, not worth my malice.

Fucking this.

 

[GorillaJu]

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

Then, is it possible for two human being to have sex, and have the fetus meant to develop as a cat, and then something goes "wrong" where it develops as a human instead?

If you want to get into metaphysical explanations, sure, maybe. But good lord, the logic behind those two situations is so utterly different that it shouldn't need to be explained. Ever. There are actual scientific explanations / possibilities at play for someone who is transgender. There is absolutely no possible way a person was meant to develop as a cat and instead developed as a human with some amount of cat wiring.

Thank you. Feels like taking crazy pills reading the nonsensical rationalizations here.

 

[injurai]

It's always felines, bunnies or dogs.

Oddly it's never some other ape, even though that would make more sense.

 

[HardRojo]

Cringed hard and stopped watching when she hissed at the dog. Also I'm not surprised she has an anime girl pillow lol, it was probably expected.

 

[_Nemo]

So does she shit into a litterbox?

 

[GruntOfAction]

I was expecting like an Xray or something with a cat inside her body fused somehow. I am disappointed :c

 

[Ekai]

Is it possible for a fetus in the womb to have some sort of defect occur where the child's brain get the wrong signal on how to develop (as male or female) compared to how the body is developing?

Then, is it possible for two human being to have sex, and have the fetus meant to develop as a cat, and then something goes "wrong" where it develops as a human instead?

If you want to get into metaphysical explanations, sure, maybe. But good lord, the logic behind those two situations is so utterly different that it shouldn't need to be explained. Ever. There are actual scientific explanations / possibilities at play for someone who is transgender. There is absolutely no possible way a person was meant to develop as a cat and instead developed as a human with some amount of cat wiring.

Pretty much my thought on it.


That said, this topic is reminding me of Read Only Memories. Good game.

 

[cpp_is_king]

You certainly seem like a sensible individual who respects others in discussion.

How do you feel about someone who tells you they're God? Because it doesn't seem all that much different to me.

Transgender and trans-anything else is a completely different story, but trans-species? Come on.

 

[Cipherr]

Not shocked by this Otherkin phenomena at this point. I saw people on Tumblr believe they were the real life reincarnations of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo separately and had huge "coming out" posts about it as well, with a floodgate of people congratulating them on their bravery. It's very strange.

Then how does she ba...oh, nevermind.

Fucking of course there's an anime pillow on her bed.

Isn't it lovely that acceptance of homosexuality and trans has come so far that it's now ok to shit on and ostracise other people with identity issues.

"Got mine, fuck you" though, amirite.

Best thread of the year so far.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

I don't like her choice and I think she's kind of sad. I hope she finds whatever it is she's looking for in life, but I also think she needs regular therapy.

 

[Elitist1945]

I was expecting this to be similar to those "woman finds out she has a dead baby inside her" stories, but with a cat.

 

[HUELEN10]

I don't like her choice and I think she's kind of sad. I hope she finds whatever it is she's looking for in life, but I also think she needs regular therapy.

...Who said it's a choice?

Some people in this very thread have said essentially that she's mentally ill or fucked in the head. If that is the case, how can that be a choice?

Are you implying someone chooses to be what some would call mentally ill?