So she can see better than humans in dark, hear better and not one scientist is studying her to find out how this can be implemented into other humans why? Oh right because it's BS. I love Anime but sometimes I feel like some can't tell reality from fiction. This all just feels acted out for the camera.
Cat trapped in the body of a 20 year old Norwegian girl.
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Chairmanchuck
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Homosexuality and transexuality are not mental illnesses.
This one is not just an identity issue, but a mental illness...
Chmpocalypse
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Her "identity" is literally impossible.
Totally different animal.
or this
LMAO, I remember that guy.
I must have missed the otherkin concentration camps somewhere. But it must have happened. Like the otherkin that claims to have been a unicorn in a past life and killed by Hitler.
Maybe if she did act like an actual cat instead of the stereotype of a cat, she'd be more believable.
themagicalkitsune
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I'm sure there's lots of people in mental asylums that think they're birds, fishes, extra terrestrials or whatever. This is not even comparable to homosexual / transgender people.
Cap'n Cook
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You'll be fine, just hang some feathers at the end of it.
storafötter
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As I figured she doesnt have or understand cats. Amusing to watch regardless. Fascinating what human fantasy can do to us. I guess makes life more interesting. As usual Norway can only offer beautiful inventions like cheese-cutter and girls who think they are a cat.
Trojita
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Personally, I think it's probably more complicated than anything I could hope to personally understand. I'm also definitely not urging 'acceptance' of this kind of behavior, but I do think people in general could do with some more knowledge and empathy when it comes to mental illness.
I agree completely. I think it's kind of ridiculous and unhealthy also. I posted this mostly so that people could get a perspective that is something other than "lol look at this crazy person"
Earthpainting
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I kind of wanted to politely avoid directly bringing religion into it, but as a non-believer it's hard not to draw some parallels between some of these impossible beliefs. Like I said, I can only assume the reason why one commands more respect than the other, and gets to avoid the mental issues remark, is by the size of the groups. When I was her age, some of my peers pretended to be vampires and would talk similar shit as cat-girl if you asked them about it. I assume it's not very different for these furries/otherkin, and she is learning into the theatrics for the camera.
I won't pretend to relate to any of it, but it's hard to object if no one is being effected by it. As long as she intends to be a pretend-cat that gets a job and can do her own laundry, I'm not going to be a buzzkill. Though I guess I am comfortably saying this from a position of not having to deal with her, so I suppose it's easy to put forth the laissez-faire attitude.
I swear this sounds very similar to something that went on Swedish TV a while ago and was just and creepy and weird, but that girl also had a "master" and "mistress" or something.
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That's her!
Man, the more I think about it, the more I'm beginning to side with these trans-species people. I mean, in the end, no harm is being done, maybe they're happier this way, and lots of things that were once considered "mental illnesses" have come full 180 and are now considered to be benign conditions that ought to be accommodated.
My attitude at this point is, "Oh, you're a cat? Okay."
My attitude at this point is, "Oh, you're a cat? Okay."
Crash Station
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The best part about this is how sad he is as a simple office worker.
Anyway, I'm not going to read this whole thread because it's a headache, but as weird as I find this, I'm really not a fan of ridiculing said person either. Is it comparable to gay/trans rights and the ridicule they faced for millenia? No, but I disagree that there are no parallels at all and it does say something about intolerance toward unfamiliar ideas.
None of us know what the future will hold in terms of what is and isn't acceptable. Again, not using it as a comparison, but for the longest time both homosexuality and non-binary gender identity were considered disorders. Perhaps at some point in a century or so, this will be considered as much of an actual non-mental disorder thing as those are.
I'm personally far more worried about transabled people than otherkin.
Had to look that up...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder
What the... fu... uuuu... ck... In this case though, at least there's a clear case of harm being inflicted on the individual with which to make a counter-argument. Though I can then see body-modification being used to counter that argument as well... Plus, "it's my body."
What about transbioism or translifeism? I just made that up. It's for people who were born into life, but believe they should never have been born at all. The only cure is suicide.
Edit: And of course there has to be sexuality attached to transablism as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia
Nealand Liquor
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Yes and no I guess. I won't accommodate "otherkin" delusions by changing nouns in my speech or creating spaces for them. If they want to live some fantasy in their own home is one thing. It is a completely different situation once they bring their fantasy into a public and begin to expect society to accommodate said fantasy.
FunkyPajamas
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Doesn't seem to be, they look nothing alike, one is norwegian and the other swedish, plus the one I posted was 25 years old at the time of the interview
It seems I'm racist towards otherkin. I need to check my privilege.You might not have a choice one day: http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/html/law/gender-identity-legalguidance.shtml
If that were to be extended to trans-specieism (I'm still not sure if that's the right word), you'd be legally obligated to call them cats.
I think she watched this scene from Step Brothers and took it too literally.
Nealand Liquor
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Not if I personally identify as an organ or bodypart. As an "Assholekin" not allowing me to be who I believe I am infringes on my feel... Rights.
Conkersbadfurday
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God damn otherkin
stump sock
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excelsiorlef
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Are you fucking serious?
This is a hilariously misguided comparison.
God damn otherkin
I had to look that up. All I can say is... wow.
DarkHeartedKill
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Does she ask to be let in the house only to wanna go outside again?
But there's no reason to. Just because the sentence "Oh, you're born as a <something>, but you identify as a <something else>" could be used to describe both transgender as well as "transspecies", "transethnic" or other kind of stuff on a most superficial level doesn't make them even remotely related. Because they're not.
And sure, do whatever you want as long as you harm no one, but don't expect more respect for your belief that you are a cat than that your child is beautiful, as Richard Dawkins said so nicely about religions. Actually, in this case I'd award less respect for the former, because it's literally impossible for you to be a cat. And if you want to be one, at least act like one.
That has absolutely nothing to do with sexual preferences or transgender people.
excelsiorlef
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People need to stop co-opting transgender language and terms.
Not shocked by this Otherkin phenomena at this point. I saw people on Tumblr believe they were the real life reincarnations of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo separately and had huge "coming out" posts about it as well, with a floodgate of people congratulating them on their bravery. It's very strange.
HUELEN10
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What do you mean by co-opting?
Wow, yeah Tumblr...
Fudgepuppy
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Being from Scandinavia, I can tell you this is what happens when people have too few real problems.
Moral Panic
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What makes them so fundamentally different?
I don't understand the challenges and feelings of someone suffering from Gender dysphoria. It's like trying to waggle my ears, it's just something I cant do. But I have learnt believe and accept people are what they say they are due to places like GAF where people can talk feely without being shat on or insulted. So yea it does seem somewhat disconcerting when you go into a thread like this and the reaction is the complete opposite, because I can't really see why. When a person's actions and self-expression of who they feel they truly are inside does not meet societies norms, I would think that it those already down and marginalised who would come out, if not in acceptance, but in at least understanding that people are not always so simply boxed. That life and living as a human with all the baggage and expectations that it brings does not come easy. But instead it seems like they aren't so different from everyone else and would turn on the "other" just as quickly if they got a position of power or social acceptance, creating a wall of which their situation is purely unique and not sensing the hypocrisy in their own mouths.
Chmpocalypse
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Trust me, as an atheist I definitely see the parallels. If anything, the religious version of delusional beliefs in the impossible is far more damaging to the world than this woman's delusion.
I'm fine with either group having their crazy beliefs. I'm more interested here in pointing out that "otherkin" (like religious beliefs) are predicated on the impossible.
Well, I'm not the one you quoted but it's why I put "transspecies" and "transethnic" in quotation marks. It's using transgender language to pretend these issues are somehow related, when they're very clearly not.
Saying they are is on the "Well, now men can marry men, soon you'll be able to marry your dog" line of reasoning.
Chmpocalypse
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Because it's literally impossible. How is this simple fact not being understood?
They're all "trans." At the very least, that makes them somewhat related. Simply insisting they're not is not a good enough argument.
As for respect, again, the exact same thing can be said for transsexualism. Anti-trans people still insist that "literally impossible for you to become a man/woman" if you aren't born into that sex. There are plenty of "casually" transphobic people who say similar things. "If you want to dress up like a lady and call yourself a 'woman,' fine, whatever, but don't expect me to go along with your delusions; as far as I'm concerned you're still just a man in a lady's dress."
You're right in that this has absolutely nothing to do with sexual preferences. As to transgender people, they do share the commonality of being "trans."
In the end, these are all labels that are socially constructed. How we define sex, gender, species, or what animal you are are all social constructs. Thus ultimately none of it is a tangible reality, meaning that with enough social pressure, our way of thinking about it can completely change.
Welcome to the age of identity politics.
That's the same thing people said about changing your sex/gender, or about gay marriage. They were "literal impossibilities" because of how those things were defined. Over time, those definitions changed, social attitudes shifted, and now not only are they possible, it's an offense to deny that they are.
So we should accept people who identify as being elves, cats or Star Wars characters as being completely normal? I guess the next step beyond that is sex and marriage with the animals you might identify as. Sorry, but that kind of madness is something I will never accept. Otherkin, lol. Get the fuck out of here.
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