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EA say Install base of PS4 and XB1 over 55 million. Up 50% vs prior gen.

PS4 is at 35.9m via Sony.

Edit: As of December 31st.

 

[DJSebolski]

What about PC?

 

[dragonflys545]

CRAZY! It's only going to continue to go up.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

So Xbox One is nearing 20m? Not too bad.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

What about PC?

450m. But it barely managed to eek out a victory vs consoles. PC2 imminent.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Those numbers are rounded most likely, but if we use exactly 55 million, looks like XB1 is at >19 million, since PS4 is at < 36 million.

EDIT: And looks like Welfare was spot on with those XB1 estimate congrats mate!

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

So approx 37/20 then? Good numbers for both. Exceptional for Sony obviously. But still very healthy for Microsoft.

 

[gigantor21]

450m. But it barely managed to eek out a victory vs consoles. PC2 imminent.

Here's hoping that it's backwards compatible.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Amazing, now bring the give us those titles developers!

 

[Another48Hours]

Dp we have an actual official source?

 

[Mpl90]

I didn't catch if they specify during the conference call, but is that sell-in or sell-through?

 

[RPGamer92]

XB1 at 20m is impressive when you think about how the US is its main market and it hasn't done to well elsewhere.

 

[Nightengale]

So approx 37/20 then? Good numbers for both. Exceptional for Sony obviously. But still very healthy for Microsoft.

37+20 is 57.

More likely to be 36 + 19 range.

 

[benny_a]

Amazing, now bring the give us those titles developers!

This estimate was a response to someone asking EA to get rid of their lesser performing titles (read: Mirror's Edge)

I didn't catch if they specify during the conference call, but is that sell-in or sell-through?

It's EA's estimate for LTD end of calendar year 2015.

 

[Alpha Phoenix]

What about PC?

450m. But it barely managed to eek out a victory vs consoles. PC2 imminent.

Here's hoping that it's backwards compatible.

lmao!

 

[NotMyPsn]

450m. But it barely managed to eek out a victory vs consoles. PC2 imminent.

I have a PC, it can't play shit...does it count?

 

[Mpl90]

This estimate was a response to someone asking EA to get rid of their lesser performing titles (read: Mirror's Edge)


It's EA's estimate.

I know it's an EA estimate, but I mean a sell-in estimate or sell-through estimate.

 

[Another48Hours]

Any official source?

 

[Get_craycray]

I know it's an EA estimate, but I mean a sell-in estimate or sell-through estimate.

Install base means sell-through.

 

[benny_a]

I know it's an EA estimate, but I mean a sell-in estimate or sell-through estimate.

It wasn't explicitly said. From the context of this being an EA conference call and this being about a potential audience it is a sell-through estimate.

Any official source?

http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/u24ocgcr
You need to wait until the whole call is accessible on demand. It's the third to last or second to last question.

 

[Another48Hours]

XB1 at 20m is impressive when you think about how the US is its main market and it hasn't done to well elsewhere.

20 million would mean it sold 8+ million WW outside the U.S. Which is at 11.

 

[Jarod McChicken]

In less than 7 hours, we will know the most recent shipment (sold in) for PS4, when Sony published their results for Q4 2015.

35,9 million was sold through.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

37+20 is 57.

More likely to be 36 + 19 range.

I know but it does say "over" 55 mill.

I also said "approx". I'm comfortable with 37/20

 

[Another48Hours]

Oh its a conference call. Nvm then.

 

[Conduit]

37+20 is 57.

More likely to be 36 + 19 range.

Well, 35.9 mil. announcement is from beginning of the January ( 3rd ). Now it is almost end of January. PS4 sales are averagely 1 mil+ every month. PS4 are probably around 37 mil. and Xbone around 18- 18.5 mil.

 

[AmuroChan]

Those numbers are rounded most likely, but if we use exactly 55 million, looks like XB1 is at >19 million, since PS4 is at < 36 million.

PS4 was at 35.9m. They should be well over that by now.

 

[benny_a]

I know but it does say "over" 55 mill.

I also said "approx". I'm comfortable with 37/20

To be clear: This is not what EA said. EA CFO said their estimate is 55 million.

 

[wachie]

37+18 = 55

37 & 18 are both conservative.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

PS4 was at 35.9m. They should be well over that by now.

This is by end of 2015, so this not count January sales.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

The estimate was "at the end of 2015" no? So you can take the 35.9m for PS4

 

[Madness]

XB1 at 20m is impressive when you think about how the US is its main market and it hasn't done to well elsewhere.

Main markets are US/Canada/UK/Australia, they dominated that last gen, so it's still a huge blow to them to have Sony lead in every area like this.

I'm curious though what the sales are like worldwide though. Wish they'd just release concrete numbers.

 

[Mpl90]

Install base means sell-through.

It wasn't explicitly said. From the context of this being an EA conference call and this being about a potential audience it is a sell-through estimate.


http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/u24ocgcr
You need to wait until the whole call is accessible on demand. It's the third to last or second to last question.

Yeah, I was assuming as such, just wanted to see if it was correct. Fair enough, thanks to both of you.

 

[Primethius]

So, 36/19, depending on how they rounded them. Makes sense.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Main markets are US/Canada/UK/Australia, they dominated that last gen, so it's still a huge blow to them to have Sony lead in every area like this.

I'm curious though what the sales are like worldwide though. Wish they'd just release concrete numbers.

We do have France and Germany numbers.

 

[Kill3r7]

Well, 35.9 mil. announcement is from beginning of the January ( 3rd ). Now it is almost end of January. PS4 sales are averagely 1 mil+ every month. PS4 are probably around 37 mil. and Xbone around 18- 18.5 mil.

The over 55 mil is end of the year 2015. So the 35.9 is the correct number for PS4.

 

[Nightengale]

The over 55 mil is end of the year 2015. So the 35.9 is the correct number.

Over 55 mil isn't part of the quarterly reports, but a response to investor question, so not necessarily.

 

[etta]

Well, 35.9 mil. announcement is from beginning of the January ( 3rd ). Now it is almost end of January. PS4 sales are averagely 1 mil+ every month. PS4 are probably around 37 mil. and Xbone around 18- 18.5 mil.

How do you know when EA calculated these numbers? These findings could have very well been finalized at the beginning of January, or middle, or a few days ago.
Zhuge is saying this number is as of the end of 2015, so when PS4 was at </= 35.9M?

 

[benny_a]

Over 55 mil isn't part of the quarterly reports, but a response to investor question, so not necessarily.

It's not over 55 million and it is end of calendar year 2015.

There is inherent ambiguity when talking estimates by a third party but the statement was clear. 55 million combined by end of calendar year 2015.

I think this thread would've been better served if it didn't take Zhuge's editorilzation but Saty's post in the EA thread. All the actual information in an equally concise post without any distortion.

 

[Nightengale]

It's not over 55 million and it is end of calendar year 2015.

My mistake then.

 

[On Demand]

So, 36/19, depending on how they rounded them. Makes sense.

VGchartzzzzzzzZZZzzz correct wowza!

 

[The Mad Draklor]

VGchartzzzzzzzZZZzzz correct wowza!

I know you're joking, but it got the France and Germany numbers wrong for the PS4 and XB1. So even if it got the cumulative numbers right, it got the split wrong.

 

[Conduit]

The over 55 mil is end of the year 2015. So the 35.9 is the correct number for PS4.

How do you know when EA calculated these numbers? These findings could have very well been finalized at the beginning of January, or middle, or a few days ago.
Zhuge is saying this number is as of the end of 2015, so when PS4 was at </= 35.9M?

And EA numbers ARE ESTIMATE! So, maybe install base were 53 mil. not 55 at the end of 2015.

 

[etta]

And EA numbers ARE ESTIMATE! So, maybe install base were 53 mil. not 55 at the end of 2015.

Estimates for millions means within tens of thousands or at most hundreds of thousands. Not millions.

 

[Bgamer90]

Around 19 million for Xbox One definitely seems believable.

 

[Get_craycray]

Estimates for millions means within tens of thousands or at most hundreds of thousands. Not millions.

This.

Plus, EA said "over" 55 million. So it shouldn't be >55 million.

 

[Kill3r7]

And EA numbers ARE ESTIMATE! So, maybe install base were 53 mil. not 55 at the end of 2015.

That's one possibility but it could also have been higher. All we can do is go by their numbers which is what everyone is doing in this thread.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

VGchartzzzzzzzZZZzzz correct wowza!

 

[benny_a]

This.

Plus, EA said "over" 55 million. So it shouldn't be >55 million.

No they didn't

 

[Liabe Brave]

Estimates for millions means within tens of thousands or at most hundreds of thousands. Not millions.

Not when your "estimate" is a multiple of 5. In that case, being off by millions is not only possible but probable.

Plus, EA said "over" 55 million. So it shouldn't be >55 million.

No, they didn't say that. Zhuge didn't report this accurately.

 

[Poimandres]

Seems to be in line with most peoples calculations. We have the PS4 figure, but the safe bet for XBone sales seems to be 18 - 20 million right?