The New Hampshire Primary |Feb 9|: Live Free or Die

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Trump a democrat outside immigration? You're thinking of pre-2008 Trump. He all about tax cuts for the rich now. He's still ok with the gays but that's about it as far as being a democrat.

I keep hearing this tax cut stuff on GAF but he's promised a UK style tax limit (I.e. you don't get taxes on for 10k earned) to help low income earners and he's said he's tax neutral so kind of clear he'd have to raise it elsewhere. Where has he called for big tax cuts?
 
I think no matter what the results are, it can speak to whether or not Bernie can reach out to older and women voters even if they are mostly white. I think the point is that if Clinton can keep up in a state like NH, she's going to sweep the rest of the primaries where Bernie isn't as favored. We'll see what happens at the end, I suppose.

It can also speak to huge holes in Clinton's potential base going into a general. Older voters have voted increasingly for the GOP in the last couple cycles and Hilary's inability to tap into young people (and especially young women) should provide pause for her ability to reproduce Obama's winning coalition of young, minority, college-educated urban voters.
 
Trump acts crazy but he's basically a democrat if you ignore his immigration stuff. Cruz actually is crazy.

Clinton - who gives a shit about experience? People always tout that like it's a good thing, and IMO experience is exactly what you DON'T want. Need fresh blood, not establishment people

Have you seen House of Cards? Knowing how to get shit done in Washington and get people on board with you is an immense skill. She knows how to get things done. As much as I like Bernie, he's a bit of a pariah for how extreme he is.
 
Republicans needs to start trimming the fat. Christie, Fiorina and Carson need to take a hike. All they are doing is just taking up other peoples time during debates.

Also Jeb is spending insane money wtf. How much does he even have?
 
Trump a democrat outside immigration? You're thinking of pre-2008 Trump. He all about tax cuts for the rich now. He's still ok with the gays but that's about it as far it gets to being even close to a democrat.

He wants to set the tax rate to 0% for anyone making less than 25k / year, and remove the death tax for everyone. He does want to cut tax for businesses, but that's across the board, including mom & pop stores. He also wants to kill the loopholes for the rich as well as for corporations. He's very much not "all about tax cuts for the rich".

Have you seen House of Cards? Knowing how to get shit done in Washington and get people on board with you is an immense skill. She knows how to get things done. As much as I like Bernie, he's a bit of a pariah for how extreme he is.

Everybody in Washington currently "knows how to get shit done". Tell me, how much shit is getting done?
 
Who would vote for a Bush, I mean seriously!

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By 7% too. I'm curious to see how 18-30 demographic voted. I wonder how much effect Steinem and Albright's comments had.
It was 85:15 Sanders amongst 18 - 29-year-old women according to CBS' exit polls.
Schattenjäger;194756510 said:
So voting for Trump makes you uneducated

Really?
he's cleaning up among voters with high school or less (45%). voting trump doesn't make you uneducated. but he dominates among the uneducated.
 
Hillary's advantage with race isn't as...fundamental (is that the right word) as it is with the clear generational divide.

Actually it is. She's crushing him in all demos among minorities, except Hispanics age 18-24. It's a pretty clear divide and is why the next few states will be so rough for him.
 
Can someone tell me how Bernie and trump have won even though have of the precincts haven't reported? Is the difference that big where it just doesn't matter?
 
Actually it is. She's crushing him in all demos among minorities, except Hispanics age 18-24. It's a pretty clear divide and is why the next few states will be so rough for him.

Yeah...Bernie better enjoy tonight. It'll be the last state he wins for quite some time.
 
I keep hearing this tax cut stuff on GAF but he's promised a UK style tax limit (I.e. you don't get taxes on for 10k earned) to help low income earners and he's said he's tax neutral so kind of clear he'd have to raise it elsewhere. Where has he called for big tax cuts?

Here you go. Top 1% get an even bigger tax cut under Trump's plan than under Jeb's.
 
Can someone tell me how Bernie and trump have won even though have of the precincts haven't reported? Is the difference that big where it just doesn't matter?

Difference is indeed that big. It's mathematically improbable that the winners now are going to be substantively different than the winners when we're closer to 90% reporting.
 
Have you seen House of Cards? Knowing how to get shit done in Washington and get people on board with you is an immense skill. She knows how to get things done. As much as I like Bernie, he's a bit of a pariah for how extreme he is.
LOLLLLLLLL

You're kidding, right?
 
Trump acts crazy but he's basically a democrat if you ignore his immigration stuff. Cruz actually is crazy.

Clinton - who gives a shit about experience? People always tout that like it's a good thing, and IMO experience is exactly what you DON'T want. Need fresh blood, not establishment people

So experience no longer matters among Bernie supporters?! Great, walk into NASA's HQ, demand to be made an astronaut and let us know how you get on.
 
Actually it is. She's crushing him in all demos among minorities, except Hispanics age 18-24. It's a pretty clear divide and is why the next few states will be so rough for him.

There's also still a significant portion of minority voters who don't know who Sanders is (or at least usually answer that they don't have enough information to form an opinion on him).

I doubt Sanders can ever appeal to older black voters, but I think with his campaign putting its full force in those next states now he could spread his appeal among young voters beyond just young white voters.
 
So unless something dramatic happens it really looks like Obama knows exactly what he's doing was totally Rubio's oops moment.
 
Yes? That's a pretty on-point dramatization of how convoluted it can be to get people to cooperate with you. Even politicians have said that.

Bernie won't have any support in Congress.
It really isn't about blackmailing, manipulating and lying to people.
 
So experience no longer matters among Bernie supporters?! Great, walk into NASA's HQ, demand to be made an astronaut and let us know how you get on.

Are we talking about astronauts or politicians? PS: If I'm a Bernie supporter than Trump thinks Fiorina is hot.
 
Schattenjäger;194756765 said:
Maybe you want to rethink what you said

Well tell me. How do you think he is going to go about banning all Muslims, and making Mexico pay for a wall?

Any educated person knows this can't/won't happen for obvious reasons.
 
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