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Saving Carson's speech for bedtime so he can lull everyone to sleep
The New Hampshire Primary |Feb 9|: Live Free or Die
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Saving Carson's speech for bedtime so he can lull everyone to sleep
Black Republican
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Cruz spent next to nothing and beat Bush to 3rd place....in NEW HAMPSHIRE
Bruh..
Bruh..
TangoAlphaLima
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I don't know for certain, but I suspect a lot of it has to do with Bill Clinton. He was always really well respected by minorities in this country, and I think Hillary may be riding on those coattails a bit.
I'm going to have to look it up but I'm pretty sure that with one exception, NH always goes with the "local hero" in primairies. I'm not sure how that's "making stuff up"?
Sanders and Clinton themselves have been very cordial to each other. I have no idea how you got the sense that the interaction between the campaigns has been once sided though. It wasn't the Clinton campaign who stole voter data or has fanned the fire of conspiracy theories to name some examples.
That's yuge.
Jeb! has really been the gift that keeps on giving. I want to thank him for that.
Rubio is dancing in the streets even with a 5th place finish. Christie did not get a bump from his slasher attack on Rubio so is now out of the next debate.
Cruz is the master of bullshit spin. He was in many polls for quite sometime 2nd in NH. He potentially finishes 3rd and preaches that he achieve greater than anyone ever predicted for him. As far as money he is no underprivelaged guy either. He has gotten nearly as much money as Bush. Hell the other night he was bragging he had more cash on hand than bush, kasich and Rubio combined
Cruz is the master of bullshit spin. He was in many polls for quite sometime 2nd in NH. He potentially finishes 3rd and preaches that he achieve greater than anyone ever predicted for him. As far as money he is no underprivelaged guy either. He has gotten nearly as much money as Bush. Hell the other night he was bragging he had more cash on hand than bush, kasich and Rubio combined
same persecution complex he had over his Xbox One fandom. i guess that's just his thing. Clinton's campaign and their supporters have been using kiddie gloves compared to the way politics usually works. Clinton and Sanders have been remarkably cordial to one another compared to many campaigns. This is a country where one campaign made another lose in a state by lying and saying a candidate had an illegitimate black baby. This is peanuts.
This. NDP was also winning in the beginning then support shifted for these reasons.
gutter_trash
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Mulcair is fake Socio-Democrat. He was Center-Right when he was a Provincial MNA lauding Thatcher, talking about exporting water in bulk and being against the Provincial Public Day Care that he tried to sell Federally
Mulcair is a chameleon, a fraud, a phoney.
Justin Trudeau is the real deal, born a Liberal, always a Liberal, has his party membership tatooed on his butt for life true Liberal
Mulcair is a phoney
Ogrekiller
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So drawing an analogy why would anyone in the Democratic party want to abstain from voting for either candidate come the general knowing that the Republicans are so much worse?
KuwabaraTheMan
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It's not a guarantee of victory, but I believe that studies have shown that New England candidates usually outperform their national polling by at least a few percentage points in New Hampshire.
SenjutsuSage
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You don't see Hillary and Bill Clinton, and their campaign (especially top campaign surrogates) making the same exact mistakes that got them their asses handed to them by Obama 8 years ago?
Bill Clinton's line of attack, especially Hillary who doubled and even tripled down on them in interviews, is disastrous for her and her candidacy, and it just leads to people, even Dems, disliking her. Bill and Hillary Clinton became seriously damaged goods back when they ran against Obama 8 years ago. Their antics and chosen methods of attack ended up leading to them being despised practically in their very own party.
Bernie has made attacks, but he has been a lot less malicious and vicious in those attacks. He has just been pounding away at a general argument and mostly leaving it up to voters to decide who they trust more when it comes to certain issues. He has definitely targeted Hillary, but he has done it in a careful way. a way in which all sides can come out without any hard feelings. What Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright and Hillary did over the weekend, and which was also carried over into interviews leading up to the NH Primary, is making them look very bad. It's making even Democrats dislike Hillary and bill. Bill Clinton campaigns far better for others than he does for his own wife because things become a lot more personal and petty when it involves her, and he never manages to make it look good.
Bernie could have very easily gone after and slaughtered her on the e-mails issue if he wanted, and best believe it is an issue, but he has refrained from going there. If the shoe was on the other foot, you can almost guarantee that the Clintons would have gone there on Bernie.
Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 32m32 minutes ago Brooklyn, NY
@Joseph100960 @cjmab28 the GOP turnout is up even more if you compare to '08
BigJonsson
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Heh, I missed these posts
I can't speak for the other black people, but I personally haven't gotten a chance to know Bernie or his positions.
Square2015
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Really!? So that 20% gap could expand maybe to 25% (or more)?
A Human Becoming
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I don't know about that but the chance of him holding 20% is higher.
Puppet Shadow
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I've voted conservative most of my life, but like a lot of other Canadians we got tired of Harper's mean spirited shit. People that usually vote conservative are going to vote liberal before even considering voting NDP.
I'm just curious, is GAF overwhelmingly atheist? It always seems to me that Christians are mocked on these political threads. I agree that Evangelicals can be a bit crazy, but that doesn't mean that all Christians/Catholics are crazy. Just curious to why religion is always looked down upon on here (I've seen it as a slam on Cruz and people are excited that Bernie won as a non Christian).
Call me an idealist but I think everyone would be better off voting for the person that most closely represents their interests. It's an awfully low ceiling for progression when everyone fancies themselves a cynical pragmatist.
Crimson_Gold
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I, for one, am an uninformed sheep. I vote off of name recognition and have no idea what's best for me. If only someone could show me the error of my ways. I'm standing in my own way because I don't know any better. That's what I've been told.
I am supporting whomever gets the dem nomination
Gay folks getting married? Jews winning primaries? Somebody needs to make this country great again...
Seriously though, that is actually amazing even if it is completely under the radar.
Black Republican
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Cruz adviser
Savage
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I certainly had issues with some of the stuff coming out of the Clinton campaign in 2008 but I think you're really confused. The Clintons are still very popular within the Democratic party today.
Prodigal Son
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Is the NH turnout actually record breaking or yuge?
Ogrekiller
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If anything it is Sanders who is despised by the party. He wasn't even a member until last year.
Unfortunately partisanship has progressed to such a level in the USA I don't really see the crossover.
Democrat leadership knifed McGovern in 72 and Reagan Democrats betrayed Mondale in 84. Bernie's revolution has to really pull in the numbers if he wants to win the whole thing.
Not really. Honestly, the Clinton campaign was much harder on Obama then they've been on Sanders. Even her supporters have been more subdued than in 2008 (except when they come into contact with vocal Bernie supporters). Also, I'm not sure where you're getting that she's despised by her party. Maybe some of Bernie's supporters hate her, but she wouldn't be as far along as she is if she was hated.
For the GOP side, yes it is. For the Dems? It's down from 08.
RPS37
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Thanks for this.
Take a drink folks! Hahahaha!
...do you think that's supposed to be an instant policy winner for someone because they are black?
Michael F. Assbender
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This.
Although he uses this fact to paint himself as a political outsider. An outsider who's been in DC for ~30 years.
"...This isn't Chess Club!"
Laieon
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NY Daily News continues their tradition of mocking Trump and his wackadoodle supporters.
lol, they make him look like a juggalo
I posted this in sarcasm.
RustyNails
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Ah, I fell for it.
ratcliffja
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I didn't know he was Jewish. That's pretty interesting.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Yeah, she sounded really glum about the whole thing.
*groan* this is the sort of "helpful" crap that turns people off from Sanders.
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Never mind
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