Next time just use a rapidshare account and download the game. Much easier.
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Next time just use a rapidshare account and download the game. Much easier.
Inferno313
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"Don't hate the player, hate the game" is a shitty argument when we're talking about people's livelihoods.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
Played about two hours last night and I'm really loving what I'm seeing so far. Game is beautiful, also.
The Lamonster
Member
Is this thread title a Twin Peaks reference?
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Finished last night, still thinking about it this morning. I really loved the game.
Just finished it. Soundtrack and Art is great and the beginning sequence of the game was amazing.
I also liked the story and writing but I wish the relationship aspect would go a bit deeper. Felt a bit too surface level to me. I think the game could be 1-2 hours longer without feeling dragged out.
I definitely don't regret my purchase.
I also liked the story and writing but I wish the relationship aspect would go a bit deeper. Felt a bit too surface level to me. I think the game could be 1-2 hours longer without feeling dragged out.
I definitely don't regret my purchase.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
Art looks beautiful, really want to play it just for that
ieatzombies
Member
This game was amazing! Stayed up all night playing and could not put it down. Hauntingly beautiful with an excellent soundtrack that kicks in at just the right moments.
There were definitely moments where I was in pure terror, the ending is definitely sticking with me.
Even if they didn't like it, they finished the game and didn't ask for a refund. What you're doing feels abusive.
Yep, I abused the system.
I understand and can agree with some of the complaints being tossed my way, but to say I abused the system? Wow.
This is the exact opposite of abusing the system. Abusing the system would be me asking for a refund and giving a reason like "The game didn't work for me so I want a refund.". Blame Valve for allowing a refund to be fulfilled due to a game not being good in the opinion of the purchaser. I was truthful in my refund reasoning and was actually surprised it was granted.
Really...
At least you're willing to admit it.
You're funny.
dragonfart28
Banned
Just to play devil's advocate, you could argue that people taking advantage of the system could motivate improvements in the refunding rules to prevent it from happening again.
Well, I mean, it's pretty much the same thing. You played the game from beginning to end and the devs got absolutely nothing.
Ooccoo
Member
So this game is pretty bad. $19.99 for less than 5 hours of gameplay I mean what? And the story isn't even good, that was very disappointing. I thought it would feature more exploration too, it had potential but that felt flat.
Very disappointed with my purchase, not worth it IMO
Very disappointed with my purchase, not worth it IMO
arts&crafts
Member
Yep, I abused the system.
I understand and can agree with some of the complaints being tossed my way, but to say I abused the system? Wow.
This is the exact opposite of abusing the system. Abusing the system would be me asking for a refund and giving a reason like "The game didn't work for me so I want a refund.". Blame Valve for allowing a refund to be fulfilled due to a game not being good in the opinion of the purchaser. I was truthful in my refund reasoning and was actually surprised it was granted.
Really...
But lets say you "liked" the game as we are just going by your word that you didn't like it. You could still ask Steam for a refund and say you didn't like it, whats the difference?
Yeah, really. But if You really need to finish the whole game to find out you don't like it, I don't know what to say. That's something you should notice after an hour (or earlier). Your whole "Game is no fun= refund" does not work.
Yep, I abused the system.
I understand and can agree with some of the complaints being tossed my way, but to say I abused the system? Wow.
This is the exact opposite of abusing the system. Abusing the system would be me asking for a refund and giving a reason like "The game didn't work for me so I want a refund.". Blame Valve for allowing a refund to be fulfilled due to a game not being good in the opinion of the purchaser. I was truthful in my refund reasoning and was actually surprised it was granted.
It's abusing the system to completely finish a game and then get your money back. The system is meant for people who have only played less then 2 hours. What you've done is similar to piracy really.
holygeesus
Banned
Blame Steam really for not enforcing their own policy. If it is hitting the devs in the pocket, they should be throwing some harsh language Valve's way!
Nappuccino
Member
I don't think the refund system was intended for people who have beaten the game. It would be like watching a movie to completion at the theater and demanding a refund.
While this is true, it is still pretty reprehensible that he thought that doing this was OK. He felt good enough about what he did that he wasn't ashamed to post about it.
And you demented. Come on pal, you play the whole game. Campo Santo isn't Ea or Ubi. The game has it flaws but in terms of story development. Is like reading a book and don't like it. Isn't the writer's fault nor your fault, it just the things went down. Next time watch playtroughs or previews. And don't be cheap. Support indie developers.
lol at finishing the game, refunding it and saying its not abusing the system.
I mean technically you didnt do anything wrong (unless you want to get into the morals of it) but dont act as if its completely normal either
I mean technically you didnt do anything wrong (unless you want to get into the morals of it) but dont act as if its completely normal either
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Yeah. A shame, really.
Come on now. People should know damn well I had every intention for this to be like my (according to my Steam) 500+ other games I have and keep it. But for how short it was and me not liking it, I decided to see if I could get a refund which Valve granted. But apparently people want to make it seem like I had the intention of essentially pirating it.
Can't make everyone happy I guess.
I don't know... at least going by the many many threads on Steam forums for this game and others that people did not like, it's pretty normal for people to want refunds.
I got 3 hours of gameplay which is fine, short experiences are nice. I just wish I had actually got an engaging story :|
SDCowboy
Member
Spoiler question about Delilah...
Did anyone else find Delilah suspicious and odd the whole way through? It always felt like she was hiding something. Why did she never want to meet up with Henry during all this? Why, even at the end, did she not want to wait for him nor join him in Boulder? She seemed evasive of him the entire game to me.
When you bought the game you didn't. But when you thought that getting a refund for a game you finished, that is what you essentially did.
Look, if I leave my house door unlocked and a thief comes in and steals my stuff, I'll admit to being pretty stupid. It still doesn't make the actions of the thief morally right.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yep, I abused the system.
I understand and can agree with some of the complaints being tossed my way, but to say I abused the system? Wow.
This is the exact opposite of abusing the system. Abusing the system would be me asking for a refund and giving a reason like "The game didn't work for me so I want a refund.". Blame Valve for allowing a refund to be fulfilled due to a game not being good in the opinion of the purchaser. I was truthful in my refund reasoning and was actually surprised it was granted.
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You absolutely abused the system and nothing you say is going to change that fact.
You played the game for four hours and asked for a refund. The policy is for two hours or less of playtime. Now, I don't have any idea why Valve didn't enforce their own policy but that does not change the fact that you abused the system.
This is your original post on the subject:
You were obviously surprised they gave you a refund. You knew exactly what you were doing. Stop trying to convince anyone otherwise.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
I dunno, I felt like it was pretty clear why she didn't stay. I suggest reading through the spoiler thread, some great analysis in there.
Wok
Member
The
suspicion
plot forced
Ned
she is in love with you and evades the situation (because of Julia or because of anxiety).
You can abuse the system once, but Valve blacklists you. Stop making it seems like this has no impact on future refunds asked by the abuser.
The policy actually states you can still request a refund even if you fall out of the soft rules they have and they will still have a look. But yes, it's still abuse. Apparently.
Wok
Member
Refunding $20 is not bad.
You will get blacklisted for future refunds though.
I hope you won't need to ask for a refund for a $60 game.
Honestly, irrespective of what valve does, your position is indefensible.
The worst part is that you think this is all OK, just because Valve allowed it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It absolutely is. I thought I had also put in my post that you finished the game but it looks like I left that out.
Steam's refund policy was not enacted so people could play through an entire game, then ask for a refund because they didn't find it enjoyable.
Well, that's good to know at least.
Wok
Member
Please stop feeding the troll. As I stated, Valve blacklists abusers for future refunds.
I for one am glad for the refund policy. I haven't used it yet myself. But I know for sure I would have done the same as you if for example I bought and got the end of Trine 3 based on reviews and impressions I read.
Ravensmash
Member
Whoa, where did this come from?
Just earlier today I was thinking about finding a game like this.
Is it...scary?
Just earlier today I was thinking about finding a game like this.
Is it...scary?
OrbitalBeard
Member
Alright, that's my cue to stop posting. Thanks for the replies though guys. I do understand what people are trying to say though and it absolutely was not my intention of "abusing" any system. I figured it was within my rights to request a refund, for any reason (as is stated in policy). But I guess I was supposed to think of the morality in it as well. I'll keep that in mind in the future and would hope Valve fixes this being allowed.
No, not really.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
There are a couple of what might be considered "jump scares" to some people, but no, the game is not "scary" imo.
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