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[Seiniyta]

Episode 5

That really wasn't all that bad. It was a pretty pulpy episode, but nothing that wasn't really already telegraphed in previous episodes. The mystery angle of the show was always going to be like this anyway. Not that it's a good thing, but it is what it is!

Worst parts of the episode would be the scene Kayo's mother comes out of the house with the garbage bag with that EVIL GRIN on her face, the camera focusing on THE LAST SUPPER on the wall when Satoru was at the manager's place, and the hilarious pseudo-ominous camerawork in the scene where the manager talks to the politician. Those are the over the top bad directing traits which drag the episode down, but we've had tons of that in previous episodes too - red eyes, evil grins, ominous meeting scenes, same shit different era.

Story-wise, the most nonsensical thing is why Satoru is even on the run. There is no evidence against him, there is only an "eyewitness" account which is a misunderstanding. He could easily have turned himself in at the start of the episode and would save himself a ton of trouble. I mean, it's not like he has some grand plan that requires him being a free man. If his plan is to trigger Revival again, there's no reason why that can't happen if he's in a holding cell waiting for shit to be sorted out!

I think it's because he ran away from the scene, with the blood on his hands in a panic which is understandable and then he got flung back in time before he really could calm himself down.

By the time he's back he knows he failed in his mission to save her, and even if he would be cleared in like 5 minutes (which I think from his pov is a gamble, probably fueled by fear) the chance that he would get detained would limit the sources of info for figuring out who the killer for real is.

I do hope it comes up in later episodes why he didn't turn himself in earlier so we get his view at least. Even if it's stupid.

 

[Pizoxuat]

I don't think the mother and her lover killed Kayo. I think Kayo was beaten and put into the shed, and a third party removed her and killed her. Remember the boot prints in the snow, that's got to be important.

The question then has to be where did the mother find her?

 

[RangerBAD]

Not only does he run away once, but he does it again. Police of any country find that very suspicious. Satoru does sort of show a calm and collected mindset, so I don't think he's panicking much after the initial fleeing.

 

[Cornbread78]

Not only does he run away once, but he does it again. Police of any country find that very suspicious. Satoru does sort of show a calm and collected mindset, so I don't think he's panicking much after the initial fleeing.

Each time he's run away fleeing he has gone through a revival (running away from the police initially, then running away once he saw the gloves in the trash bag.



Still angry...

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

So two that things....


The story about the chocolate bar. Did he or did he not do it? It is said it dropped out of his jacket but his daughter says he didn't do it. What am I missing here? Even if it's it of any importance to the plot.

Also, the phone. The killer obviously broke into her house and put the phone there. Then sending a message, pretending to be Satoru, Why all that hassle? Why not wait there and kill her?

 

[KenjiGlove]

So two that things....


The story about the chocolate bar. Did he or did he not do it? It is said it dropped out of his jacket but his daughter says he didn't do it. What am I missing here? Even if it's it of any importance to the plot.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do it and Airi trusts Satoru just because she doesn't want to see another life being ruined by someone who's inncocent.

 

[RangerBAD]

Each time he's run away fleeing he has gone through a revival (running away from the police initially, then running away once he saw the gloves in the trash bag.



Still angry...

Not all his revivals are like that. Remember when he stopped the truck. Minding his business and making a delivery.

 

[Qurupeke]

Not all his revivals are like that. Remember when he stopped the truck. Minding his business and making a delivery.

Yep. I think revivals occur when an accident is about to happen or happens. The child crossing the street, the abduction, his mother's murder. I really doubt they'll explain it much more.

 

[WeaponKnight]

Also, the phone. The killer obviously broke into her house and put the phone there. Then sending a message, pretending to be Satoru, Why all that hassle? Why not wait there and kill her?

Killer didn't put the phone there, it was a text sent from Satoru's mother's phone that was taken when she was killed. Airi had exchanged numbers with her when they met so the killer knew the number.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

I'm pretty sure he didn't do it and Airi trusts Satoru just because she doesn't want to see another life being ruined by someone who's inncocent.

Yup. But why wasnt her father found innocent of it all together? I would like to know what truly happened there. But at the same time it's not very relevant.

Killer didn't put the phone there, it was a text sent from Satoru's mother's phone that was taken when she was killed. Airi had exchanged numbers with her when they met so the killer knew the number.

Ah yes, my bad on that. I misinterpreted that part when she says "Satoru found his mom's phone?" it looked like she thought she had picked up her phone.

So the killer is texting her and pretending to be Satoru, hoping to trick her and that she stays there. But that's kind of dumb of the killer, because he could have known that Satoru's mom's number was a contact on Airi 's phone. Ah well. Should be interesting to finally see who is the killer. Why do some think it's the teacher?

I'm going to check out that other anime someone in this thread recommended now.

 

[Barajas_201]

Episode went by too quickly! I need more!!! So good.

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Did the mom butcher her daughter or it was just implied :O?

 

[Turin Turambar]

Erased 5

Yeah, this was definitively weaker.

On one hand it's nice for the series to be unpredictable.

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I didn't expect for her to be dead already. I didn't expect the obvious way she died: a beating from her family that went over the limit, her disappearance in the park was a red herring. And I didn't expect for him to return to the present.

But this episode highlights the not so good parts, like the villains being so obvious, the characterization is boring and of course there is no thrill of who will be the bad guys? Both in the past and

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in the present (was that the teacher, being now older?).

I don't believe how little affected is the protagonist over his mom's death, it's like he knows he is in a fiction series so he knows he eventually will fix it.
I don't believe the 17 years old girl having the straight of a professional boxer.
I don't believe the divorce by a fucking chocolate bar.
I don't believe the bad guy being 100 steps ahead everyone else, and

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trying to kill/killing the girl because a super slight suspicion she had something to do with the MC.

So yep, this episode strained my credulity.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

So a friend of mine just finished episode 3 and he noticed something that I had noticed too, but completely forgot to mention. Don't think I saw it mentioned here. At the end of episode 3 we see a kind of weird shot of the blonde boy and the teacher in the classroom. It's as if they know something, thoughts?

Also, there are no two oddly similar things about Kayo and Airi.

- The whole "are you stupid?" thing
- In episode 1 Airi in the hospital says if you say something over and over it'll actually happen somewhere along the line. Kayo says something very similar in one of the episodes.

Really wonder what that's all about.

 

[doop_]

Tempted to read the manga.

 

[MCD]

One thing about the killer for sure: he REALLY hates the MC.

 

[varkuriru]

Episode 5 taught me that to utterly destroy someone's life you have to accuse them of stealing a chocolate bar.

 

[Cornbread78]

So a friend of mine just finished episode 3 and he noticed something that I had noticed too, but completely forgot to mention. Don't think I saw it mentioned here. At the end of episode 3 we see a kind of weird shot of the blonde boy and the teacher in the classroom. It's as if they know something, thoughts?

Also, there are no two oddly similar things about Kayo and Airi.

- The whole "are you stupid?" thing
- In episode 1 Airi in the hospital says if you say something over and over it'll actually happen somewhere along the line. Kayo says something very similar in one of the episodes.

Really wonder what that's all about.

They were planning out the birthday party for Satoru and Kayo.

Yeah, there is a link there between the two, but it's too early to Crack the code. I'm sure we will see more of it in the coming episodes to crack the code.

Episode 5 taught me that to utterly destroy someone's life you have to accuse them of stealing a chocolate bar.

The story was satire of Satoru's current situation with his mother's death. As well as reminding us that little insignificant things can make a big difference in the long run.

 

[AnathemicOne]

Erased - 05

I enjoyed the episode but I do recognize it is a bit subpar compared to the previous 4 episodes to which begs the question is the director fucking up or is it the source material of the manga? Any manga readers care to answer?

Anime be anime-ing, while the majority of duds I can overlook the backstory of Airi was just stupid. I enjoy her character but the backstory was just weird and unnecessary.

 

[duckroll]

So two that things....


The story about the chocolate bar. Did he or did he not do it? It is said it dropped out of his jacket but his daughter says he didn't do it. What am I missing here? Even if it's it of any importance to the plot.

Also, the phone. The killer obviously broke into her house and put the phone there. Then sending a message, pretending to be Satoru, Why all that hassle? Why not wait there and kill her?

Who cares whether he did it or not, I'm more interested in knowing how an adult with good standing in the local community in the 90s in Japan, caught stealing a chocolate bar, can result in him losing his job, his standing, his marriage, etc. It's hilarious escalation from the most random mundane thing. Airi must have made that story up. She's a liar with an ulterior motive!

 

[Dresden]

One thing about the killer for sure: he REALLY hates the MC.

It's almost like the MC destroyed his life.

We hear near the end of the episode of a man whose life was destroyed.

Satoru stole the chocolate bar.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

It's almost like the MC destroyed his life.

We hear near the end of the episode of a man whose life was destroyed.

Satoru stole the chocolate bar.

I hope this is real

 

[duckroll]

Couldn't resist checking the manga for one detail. I can confirm that THE LAST SUPPER is an anime inclusion. Lol. Also, the manga has more monologue after he jumps back where he considers the possibility of just turning himself in and pointing them to the guy he saw. He pieces together a number of circumstances which he feels would work against him and he thinks the police are out to get him anyway, so he runs.

 

[AnathemicOne]

Couldn't resist checking the manga for one detail. I can confirm that THE LAST SUPPER is an anime inclusion. Lol. Also, the manga has more monologue after he jumps back where he considers the possibility of just turning himself in and pointing them to the guy he saw. He pieces together a number of circumstances which he feels would work against him and he thinks the police are out to get him anyway, so he runs.

Ugh now I want to read the manga haha. Well I never really questioned why Satoru started to run due the shock of it all (both before and right after the time travel), but glad to see there's a logical explanation in the manga. Kinda irritated that SAO director gonna fuck up with Last Supper crap lol

 

[killer rin]

Couldn't resist checking the manga for one detail. I can confirm that THE LAST SUPPER is an anime inclusion. Lol. Also, the manga has more monologue after he jumps back where he considers the possibility of just turning himself in and pointing them to the guy he saw. He pieces together a number of circumstances which he feels would work against him and he thinks the police are out to get him anyway, so he runs.

Not that I want to go into the Manga too much, but the scene which sent him into the past in episode 1 (Chapter 5-6 if anyone wants to see it)

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was a lot more "sketchy" if viewed at from an outside perspective, which works more into why he must run away instead of what we got in the anime where he straight up did a 180 and ran from the cops. It also sets up why Satoru is in the alleyway when he returns to the present instead of on his balcony where it happened in the Anime

(not really spoilers, but spoiler marked it anyways)

 

[Dahbomb]

This show is basically this gif in anime form:

 

[ibyea]

Couldn't resist checking the manga for one detail. I can confirm that THE LAST SUPPER is an anime inclusion. Lol. Also, the manga has more monologue after he jumps back where he considers the possibility of just turning himself in and pointing them to the guy he saw. He pieces together a number of circumstances which he feels would work against him and he thinks the police are out to get him anyway, so he runs.

*groan* seriously D:

 

[Seiniyta]

Couldn't resist checking the manga for one detail. I can confirm that THE LAST SUPPER is an anime inclusion. Lol. Also, the manga has more monologue after he jumps back where he considers the possibility of just turning himself in and pointing them to the guy he saw. He pieces together a number of circumstances which he feels would work against him and he thinks the police are out to get him anyway, so he runs.

The last supper thing didn't really bother me. Maybe because I assume that although it's on the nose for us, in Japan itself it's probably a lot less known and could be considered subtle since Christianity isn't so prevelant in Japan *shrug*

I wonder if him going over his possibilities is shuffled into a later episode in the anime. If not the anime did drop the ball there compared to the manga though. (still a really good anime so far though)

 

[peaceiscloser]

Just got caught up to Episode 5 and

wow, I haven't been gripped like this watching an anime for a little while now, this is nice.

 

[KenjiGlove]

The last supper thing didn't really bother me. Maybe because I assume that although it's on the nose for us, in Japan itself it's probably a lot less known and could be considered subtle since Christianity isn't so prevelant in Japan *shrug*

I think it's kinda funny that the most recent Lupin (2015) episode also revolves heavily around the Last Supper.

Anyhow, personally, I think it would've been fine if they just kept it in the background instead of making a short cut that deliberately points it out. That would've been a bit more clever to me.

 

[Miff]

This is the first season that I've got into series simulcasts (as opposed to watching eps back2back). I mean, these cliff hangers, how do you guys cope! I'm hooked and itching to go searching for the manga.

Airi punch was a nice surprise, didn't think she had that in her.

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Hope she survives the fire

. The chocolate tale didn't bother me too much. Maybe the relationship was on the rocks already, I've argued with my OH over lesser things (including stuff that may not have even existed / happened).

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Erased 05

Fuck me I was dying at the chocolate scene. I can only imagine the conversation that lead to the divorce.

"Did you steal the chocolate?"

"No honey I swear"

"I don't know what to believe in anymore. But this marriage was built on a throne of lies. Of chocolate-flavored lies"

"Please don't leave me I didn't do it"

"You must think I'm coo coo for cocoa puffs to believe that"

It wasn't by any means a horrible episode as some said, it just had some really silly shit happen that kind of brought down the level of writing that we had been experiencing so far. The jump back into the future was a bit expected considering the OP, but I guess that now the show will rely on at least one more jump into the past and then back.


edit: also I'm still not convinced that the cops couldn't do basic fucking time of death and investigation to realize Satoru had an alibi by now.

 

[TUSR]

its about trust man

if your wife cant even believe you over something as cheap as a chocolate bar

is it really a good relationship

think about it

 

[Admiral Woofington]

its about trust man

if your wife cant even believe you over something as cheap as a chocolate bar

is it really a good relationship

think about it

Not sure if serious but the chocolate can't be the first fucking straw lol. I'm gonna give the show the benefit of the doubt that the marriage was already in shambles in issues of trust.

 

[meltingparappa]

One partner refuses to take the heat for stealing a chocolate bar on principle.

This escalates to a the family's livelihood being threatened.

The other tells them it's just a goddamn chocolate bar.

The 'thief' escalates further and asks why they're not standing up for them on this.


I can go through all the couples I know on my facebook friends list and it would be like looking at The Matrix, with all the binary 1's and 0's representing which relationships would or wouldn't handle something as initially trivial as that.

 

[Aureon]

Not sure if serious but the chocolate can't be the first fucking straw lol. I'm gonna give the show the benefit of the doubt that the marriage was already in shambles in issues of trust.

I think the chain was more Stole chocolate -> lost job -> failed marriage

Petty thievery -> lost job and lost job -> failed marriage are both pretty credible.

Petty thievery -> failed marriage on it's own would be stupid.

 

[duckroll]

What if the chocolate bar story just seems stupid to us because it's SUPPOSED to seem stupid? This is a story Airi remembers as a child. What if her parents were protecting her by only telling her what a child could understand at the time?

Her father wasn't really working for an agricultural union. The shop wasn't selling chocolate bars. This was a rural town owned by a multinational company doing advanced research on time/space distortion, and her father actually stole a prototype device... codenamed... REVIVAL.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

And his boss?

George W Bush

 

[TUSR]

What if the chocolate bar story just seems stupid to us because it's SUPPOSED to seem stupid? This is a story Airi remembers as a child. What if her parents were protecting her by only telling her what a child could understand at the time?

Her father wasn't really working for an agricultural union. The shop wasn't selling chocolate bars. This was a rural town owned by a multinational company doing advanced research on time/space distortion, and her father actually stole a prototype device... codenamed... REVIVAL.

 

[hamchan]

Binged all the eps that are out. Now I'm left with a feeling of emptiness as I wait for more eps. This is why I normally like to wait until the whole thing is over. But since this is easily the best anime this season to me I couldn't wait.

Yeah pretty good show.

 

[ohlawd]

Binged all the eps that are out. Now I'm left with a feeling of emptiness as I wait for more eps. This is why I normally like to wait until the whole thing is over. But since this is easily the best anime this season to me I couldn't wait.

Yeah pretty good show.

but the best show this season is Please Tell Me, Galko-chan

 

[Cornbread78]

but the best show this season is Please Tell Me, Galko-chan

Eww, please don't say that..

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Eww, please don't say that..

He isn't wrong. Galko's older sister is AOTS.

 

[Ridesh]

So I read the manga.

Holy flying fuck! you guys are in for a treat.

Just one thing, there's absolutely no way that all will fit in 12 episodes, this is a series for 20-24 episodes.

 

[Sandfox]

So I read the manga.

Holy flying fuck! you guys are in for a treat.

Just one thing, there's absolutely no way that all will fit in 12 episodes, this is a series for 20-24 episodes.

That's why they will cut down everything possible to make it fit.

 

[rec0ded1]

So I read the manga.

Holy flying fuck! you guys are in for a treat.

Just one thing, there's absolutely no way that all will fit in 12 episodes, this is a series for 20-24 episodes.

I caved in as well after episode 3. The manga won't be complete until March I think so my anxiety isn't over >.<

 

[ohlawd]

Eww, please don't say that..

you aren't even watching the best show this season so iunno why you're even talking

 

[Cornbread78]

you aren't even watching the best show this season so iunno why you're even talking

I watched the first three episodes of your Galko-chan, but Konosuba is even funnier..

 

[ohlawd]

I watched the first three episodes of your Galko-chan, but Konosuba is even funnier..

Konosuba's aight

we're totally incompatible. I'm sorry.

 

[John Kowalski]

Chocolate continuing to ruin lives the world over.

 

[Cornbread78]

Konosuba's aight

we're totally incompatible. I'm sorry.

I also like SAO a Clannad, so I have unique taste and I'm used to it, lol.