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I am starting to think that the reason he lost his memory is because of the time travel, not the parent. No matter how good the parents are, you can't remove something from a kids memory.
Erased (Boku dake ga Inai Machi) animeTV|OT| If I could turn back time, If I could..
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I am starting to think that the reason he lost his memory is because of the time travel, not the parent. No matter how good the parents are, you can't remove something from a kids memory.
i thought this was prob the best ep yet cuz there's a good stretch of the ep where things have this nice little cadence to it, spaced by the approaching deadline (x-day) with each period of 'play' interspersed with satoru delivering kayo home, and the concern underlying every instance of the door closing, generated by suspicion of abuse happening within, given substance by what we see earlier in the show and in the beginning of the episode when satoru's mother has to intervene. it's the helplessness inherent in such a move--where satoru can't simply shelter kayo, but must let her return to whatever misery awaits her--that felt particularly cutting here.
the show can def be rather crude, and everyone has pounded the evil eyes thing to bits so i shan't mention it except for mentioning it here to mention that everyone must have mentioned it. but then you have the jun scene from ep3, or the little shift near the end when kayo is washing her face, but for a few seconds there's uncertainty as to whether she's washing or just trying to cold-press whatever bruises that might be on her face. It's capable of doing things other than making sasukes out of its villains, so when it does the cheesy anime thing it's all the more disappointing.
i had two concerns--one is that the end of the episode is like WHOAAAA and you get the shocked face and it could be shopped into a jojo reaction pic, the style was akin to that sorta thing. the second is that in the end, the dead girl, or presumably dead girl, and the dead girls to come, all lack a real voice in the story; normally this would be sidestepped by abusing the myopia of a fixed perspective, but Erased doesn't have that luxury. By indulging in POV hops early on, it has established that our view of what's happening can indeed expand to events outside of Satoru's own, and by providing only a view of the abuse and not the girl herself, it makes very clear that she's disposable, that her purpose is only to be destroyed.
the show can def be rather crude, and everyone has pounded the evil eyes thing to bits so i shan't mention it except for mentioning it here to mention that everyone must have mentioned it. but then you have the jun scene from ep3, or the little shift near the end when kayo is washing her face, but for a few seconds there's uncertainty as to whether she's washing or just trying to cold-press whatever bruises that might be on her face. It's capable of doing things other than making sasukes out of its villains, so when it does the cheesy anime thing it's all the more disappointing.
i had two concerns--one is that the end of the episode is like WHOAAAA and you get the shocked face and it could be shopped into a jojo reaction pic, the style was akin to that sorta thing. the second is that in the end, the dead girl, or presumably dead girl, and the dead girls to come, all lack a real voice in the story; normally this would be sidestepped by abusing the myopia of a fixed perspective, but Erased doesn't have that luxury. By indulging in POV hops early on, it has established that our view of what's happening can indeed expand to events outside of Satoru's own, and by providing only a view of the abuse and not the girl herself, it makes very clear that she's disposable, that her purpose is only to be destroyed.
Episode 4
A very heartwarming episode, Satoru tried his best this whole episode. Like the end of the previous episode it was nice seeing them have a good time together even if Kayos mother tried to ruin it, glad Satorus mother came through. Speaking of Kayos mother, they can chill with the red eyes. But yeah the rest of episode was good with the party and Kayos intention of giving Satoru a scarf. Of course that fuzzy feeling was shattered with those last couple of seconds. He looked horrified.
Ah, I wonder whats going on inside his head though with the slip ups and the memories.
A very heartwarming episode, Satoru tried his best this whole episode. Like the end of the previous episode it was nice seeing them have a good time together even if Kayos mother tried to ruin it, glad Satorus mother came through. Speaking of Kayos mother, they can chill with the red eyes. But yeah the rest of episode was good with the party and Kayos intention of giving Satoru a scarf. Of course that fuzzy feeling was shattered with those last couple of seconds. He looked horrified.
Ah, I wonder whats going on inside his head though with the slip ups and the memories.
slightconfuse
Banned
Just caught up, this is soooooo gooood
Episode 4 was phenomenal
Episode 4 was phenomenal
Askherserenity
Member
I'm enjoying the anime so damn much.
Trying to control myself and not read the manga...this is going to be tough.
Trying to control myself and not read the manga...this is going to be tough.
Cornbread78
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Show of the season so far.
Been enjoying every episode.
One thing I must mention is the voice acting performance of the main character.
In terms of the performance, it's more on the realistic side which is quite refreshing in terms of Anime nowadays.
That's a really good point actually. It's also paced really well IMO
Nice gifs BTW.
Been enjoying every episode.
One thing I must mention is the voice acting performance of the main character.
In terms of the performance, it's more on the realistic side which is quite refreshing in terms of Anime nowadays.
That's a really good point actually. It's also paced really well IMO
Nice gifs BTW.
Admiral Woofington
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Just a reminder in case anyone here plans to vote in the AOTY threaf
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1163376
Not much more till it closes.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1163376
Not much more till it closes.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Damn you
Cornbread78
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KenjiGlove
Banned
It's definitely not for everyone, but Shouwa genroku rakugo shinjuu is a currently airing show that also offers this in a way. You might wanna check it out.
hosannainexcelsis
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Yes, Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu is much more subdued and low-key than Erased, and a period drama about rakugo performers has more niche appeal than a time-travel thriller, especially internationally, but it offers the same kind of genuinely mature drama, even more so.
Yeah, it's really good too. I was really caught up in the first episode.
Cool, I'm gonna check it out, thanks for the recommendation!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I still don't understand why his strategy to prevent her death seems to be hitting on Kayo relentlessly rather than doing anything proactive to figure out who the real killer is. Like, I don't understand where Satou is even getting this idea if he makes Kayo his little kid girlfriend it will somehow prevent her death as though the killer is just a random spree killer who only targeted Kayo because she was standing there on some specific day.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
He seems to have gotten it in his head that her disappearance and his mother's death are linked, since he was sent back to that time period ostensibly to fix it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
But how does that fix it?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
If he can prevent and solve Kayo's disappearance, maybe it puts him on track to preventing his mother's death, at least in his thinking.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
But he's not really solving it and his assumption that the killer won't target her if she's not standing in the park on a specific day seems extremely suspect.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Watched the first two episodes and i really like it. But why is episode 1 full screen and the rest is letterbox format?
It's not exactly that. When the protagonist is on the past, you have black bars. When he's at the present or thinks something about it, it becomes normal.
please tell me it doesn't shit the bed
No please don't talk about anything manga in here for the sake of people. I've read the manga to the current chapter too and it would suck to give an opinion about the story for others.
Be patient or read it yourself.OniBarubary
Banned
Well the whole thing was that his mom saw the dude trying to abscond with kids and stops it by noticing. Then she gets murdered. Then he travels back to a very specific time where a number of kids were kidnapped and killed and the wrong person was convicted. His power sending him back to that specific time seems like a pretty good tip off as it seems a reach that his mom did something that far back that would precipitate her death.
You can also go by the fuzzier logic of him "feeling" something is off when he goes back to determine what it is, like with the kid in the beginning.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Aaaaah yes, I had a feeling that was going to be the case. Cool stuff.
Cornbread78
Member
3 more hours, this wait is killing me....
The fact that I'll have this waiting for me when I get home is gonna get me through this day.
Cornbread78
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ERASED 5
FUUUUUUUCK. FUCK FUCK. FUCK. Okay, this is one of the most stressful shows to watch. I guess happy time is over, for everyone but the killer.
I guess this episode answers what everyone was wondering, we are in the present, at least until Satoru gets his second chance. I'm still a bit confused why he choose to run away and not talk with the police, but I guess he was very confused with everything that happened.
So, about the killer... It seems that the older man in the pizza store is 100% the teacher(that became a headmaster now?), and 100% the killer. BUT, it seems to me that Hinazuki's mother and her boyfriend are not innocent either. It seems like they killed Hinazuki, if that short scene is anything to go by. The teacher seems to have taken the body and passed the blame to someone else(Yukki in that case), so I wonder what exactly is going on and what is his motive. Organ trafficking? Fuck, all of them.
And damn, even the present isn't really better now. I really hope Katagiri won't die and I really hope Satoru won't have to choose between her and Hinazuki. Too many parallels with Hinazuki.
Katagiri was fucking amazing in this episode, especially that scene where she confronted the manager. I really hope Satoru was near and he'll save her from that fire and I guess I'm right because it's kinda hinted on the OP.
Man, I can't wait until next week, this fucking show.
Erased latest episode spoilers.
Edit: Okay, I rewatched that scene where the potential killer talks with the manager. First, nothing that states he rules a school, he says school route, I have no idea how I misunderstood that. lol And he seems to be a detective/high ranking police officer based on the badge. Also, his name is different than the teacher's.
FUUUUUUUCK. FUCK FUCK. FUCK. Okay, this is one of the most stressful shows to watch. I guess happy time is over, for everyone but the killer.
I guess this episode answers what everyone was wondering, we are in the present, at least until Satoru gets his second chance. I'm still a bit confused why he choose to run away and not talk with the police, but I guess he was very confused with everything that happened.
So, about the killer... It seems that the older man in the pizza store is 100% the teacher(that became a headmaster now?), and 100% the killer. BUT, it seems to me that Hinazuki's mother and her boyfriend are not innocent either. It seems like they killed Hinazuki, if that short scene is anything to go by. The teacher seems to have taken the body and passed the blame to someone else(Yukki in that case), so I wonder what exactly is going on and what is his motive. Organ trafficking? Fuck, all of them.
And damn, even the present isn't really better now. I really hope Katagiri won't die and I really hope Satoru won't have to choose between her and Hinazuki. Too many parallels with Hinazuki.
Katagiri was fucking amazing in this episode, especially that scene where she confronted the manager. I really hope Satoru was near and he'll save her from that fire and I guess I'm right because it's kinda hinted on the OP.Man, I can't wait until next week, this fucking show.
Erased latest episode spoilers.
Edit: Okay, I rewatched that scene where the potential killer talks with the manager. First, nothing that states he rules a school, he says school route, I have no idea how I misunderstood that. lol And he seems to be a detective/high ranking police officer based on the badge. Also, his name is different than the teacher's.
Rynocirator
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That chocolate bar story made me laugh. It escalated so quickly off of a stolen chocolate bar.
Basileus777
Member
That whole scenario was ridiculous. A lot of the stuff they did to try to establish Airi felt unconvincing. "My daddy's life was ruined because he was falsely accused of stealing a chocolate bar" was not exactly an effective way to explain her attachment to Satoru.
Cornbread78
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Episode 5:
WTF, WTF, WTF.
Bull$hit, all of it. Not only did they kill Kayo, but now Airi is gonna get it now as well. Fu(k this dirty bastard. Airi doesn't even know who he is! I can't remember the last time I got pissed at an anime like this, seriously, what did Satoru do to deserve any of this with everyone dying around him. I mean, there is no way he can maintain mentally strong once he finds out.
Yeah, that was odd, but I understood the context in which Airi used it and it made sense in terms of the story. It was just a funny example.
WTF, WTF, WTF.
Bull$hit, all of it. Not only did they kill Kayo, but now Airi is gonna get it now as well. Fu(k this dirty bastard. Airi doesn't even know who he is! I can't remember the last time I got pissed at an anime like this, seriously, what did Satoru do to deserve any of this with everyone dying around him. I mean, there is no way he can maintain mentally strong once he finds out.
Yeah, that was odd, but I understood the context in which Airi used it and it made sense in terms of the story. It was just a funny example.
The father just shot himself in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase any chocolates , nor will they purchase any of the coop's products. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but the father has alienated an entire market with this move.
Father, publicly apologize and cancel your marriage or you can kiss your business goodbye.
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Yeah, I didn't get it either. I expected it to be a story about how he was always honest, but it was essentially about how he destroyed his life over a chocolate......
Cornbread78
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C'mon man, you should know better, lol.
Go watch it... It's good again and maddening as hell.
The chocolate bar seems silly, but I've seen with more the one person where something really minor which they didn't even do escalate into something much worse. The choclate bar story doesn't seem unlikely to me unfortunately.
That aside, this anime gives me a constant uneasyness as I'm worried about almost all the characters which means it's definitly something doing good. But I can't handle it god damnit lol.
Erased - 05
GOD DAMMIT.
Why do you do this to me, show? This and current Gintama, my heart can only take so much...
I liked the return to present and Katagiris involvement, but the fact that he's treated as a fugitive is a real bummer. It just doesn't make sense to me why he would act like this :/
But if Katagiris story is anything to go by, innocence doesn't mean shit anyway, so he probably did the right thing. Now get the hell back into the past and fix this shit, Satoru!
GOD DAMMIT.
Why do you do this to me, show? This and current Gintama, my heart can only take so much...
I liked the return to present and Katagiris involvement, but the fact that he's treated as a fugitive is a real bummer. It just doesn't make sense to me why he would act like this :/
But if Katagiris story is anything to go by, innocence doesn't mean shit anyway, so he probably did the right thing. Now get the hell back into the past and fix this shit, Satoru!
Cornbread78
Member
Nothing, people thought it was a little over the top, but it makes perfect sense in the context of the story.
I'm sure it may end up being a theme about changing the past to affect the future as well, in that little thing can be misconstrued and make a large impact to change the future...
I didn't have a problem with it, but it certainly felt like a weird story. It can be believable, but it started as a simple story about a stolen chocolate and went to how the father lost everything. And I'm not sure what was exactly the point of the story. That Katagiri has a troubled past? That honesty isn't always good?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Erased 05
Yeah the only weakness of this show is people making goofy evil faces. It's so dumb. Well, I lied, that isn't the only weakness. That and reverting back to episode 1's ending, which was also dumb. I'm not a fan of reverting back to this drama because I am not a fan of the way the drama was set up in the first place. The series acts like Satoru wouldn't be cleared of all charges in 5 minutes... but I guess its necessary to set up the Butterfly Effect
So, the weakest episode by far, but not enough to make me worry. The chocolate bar thing made me shake my head. Seriously? This went from a down-low drama to a cheap TV thriller at the speed of sound.
A misfire.
Yeah the only weakness of this show is people making goofy evil faces. It's so dumb. Well, I lied, that isn't the only weakness. That and reverting back to episode 1's ending, which was also dumb. I'm not a fan of reverting back to this drama because I am not a fan of the way the drama was set up in the first place. The series acts like Satoru wouldn't be cleared of all charges in 5 minutes... but I guess its necessary to set up the Butterfly Effect
So, the weakest episode by far, but not enough to make me worry. The chocolate bar thing made me shake my head. Seriously? This went from a down-low drama to a cheap TV thriller at the speed of sound.
A misfire.
It's a bit complicated but I think it's like this: The father got punished for something he hadn't done and she saw how nobody but herself, who knew he hadn't done it didn't believe him got punished. She knows Satoru and trusts him just like she trusted her father and hopes it leads to a better conclusion this time around now that she can help.
Saturo was terrified and ran, which made him directly much more suspect. And now that he knows he can be sent back into the past he probably doesn't want to get caught since that would make it a lot harder for him to acquire more info who the killer(s) could be.
KenjiGlove
Banned
Erased 05
The manager literaly did nothing wrong from his point of view, he didn't deserve to get hit straight in the face!
Anyhow, the quick cut to the "Last Supper" while Saturo was staying in the managers house was kinda cheesy, I guess it could either refer to him eating at the managers place or the fact that they ate some sandwiches just before Hinazuki got taken. The first one makes a lot more sense though, especially considering that there was a "betrayal".
The man with the hat and his little red button are super suspicious all things considered. I'm too lazy to cross-reference that to the past though
The manager literaly did nothing wrong from his point of view, he didn't deserve to get hit straight in the face!
Anyhow, the quick cut to the "Last Supper" while Saturo was staying in the managers house was kinda cheesy, I guess it could either refer to him eating at the managers place or the fact that they ate some sandwiches just before Hinazuki got taken. The first one makes a lot more sense though, especially considering that there was a "betrayal".
The man with the hat and his little red button are super suspicious all things considered. I'm too lazy to cross-reference that to the past though
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