Crimsonclaw111
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So do we get charged now or when it ships? I wouldn't mind securing my spot as long as I don't need to pay right this moment.
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HTC Vive is $799, ships early April 2016
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derExperte
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The numbers-war. As long as PSVR sells more units than the rest SonyGAF 'wins', nothing else matters.
lifa-cobex
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My main issue with the prices is I can't go anywhere to test these products for myself.
I can go into a TV shop and say " ahh yes I see why 4K is expensive. That's a very nice picture".
But I highly doubt game shops will have these products to test. It's not the sort of thing I'm gonna blindly throw that amount of cash at without testing and comparing.
The other argument I have against it is you're not just paying out for a headset. You might have to payout for the hardware to run it.
If you know where to shop around then it might not be too much of an issue but for general ppl that just want a PC to up and go then that price is vastly weightier.
I can go into a TV shop and say " ahh yes I see why 4K is expensive. That's a very nice picture".
But I highly doubt game shops will have these products to test. It's not the sort of thing I'm gonna blindly throw that amount of cash at without testing and comparing.
The other argument I have against it is you're not just paying out for a headset. You might have to payout for the hardware to run it.
If you know where to shop around then it might not be too much of an issue but for general ppl that just want a PC to up and go then that price is vastly weightier.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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That monitor will cost more lol
plagiarize
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I'm lost as to what *advantage* you feel the PS4 has over Oculus in the motion controller department basically. You initially said it doesn't come with motion controllers, but by the time PSVR comes there'll be such a SKU out or coming soon.
So... advantage... who again?
Sony will almost certainly have a sizeable entry price advantage. That's going to be their only advantage on the hardware side. They may well have an advantage in terms of software support. I think it's going to be a good piece of hardware. I currently plan on getting it (so long as they do indeed offer a headset only SKU).
But people who pick up the Oculus and get the Touch controllers will have a whole slate of games to play that support them between Oculus funded experiences, Steam VR games (which will absolutely support the Rift and Touch controllers), etc etc.
The general market. People can own ps4s and PCs at the same time. I see a lot of people going psvr if they have both.
In a market where its consumers buy GPU's that are over $600, you really think $800 for a piece of cutting edge technology (One by Valve no less) is going to flop with PC users?
Octavianus
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Good luck with those HD tv's people...
RecRoulette
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Expected since it comes with everything, but doesn't the Vive need significantly more room than the other 2 headsets?
Yeah but I wouldn't get it now.
I'm thinking late summer time.
I doubt VR would go down in price, but the monitor might (especially with all the 144hz screens incoming.)
AngmarsKing701
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Considering I don't have a PC capable of using this or the Rift, I'm gonna have to go with the $99 Gear. I already have an S6 Edge+.
There will never be unmanned VR demo-stations. Too much sweat involved (literary) and chance for pinky eyes etc. People's faces aren't very sanitized overall.
plagiarize
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If you have an appropriate Galaxy, the Gear is genuinely a no brainer. What you get for $99 is very much worth it.
WooHooAlex
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My god.
Hate to say it, but Vive is DOA at that price. Even if I had a PC that was "VR ready" I would go for Oculus instead.
PSVR for me.
Hate to say it, but Vive is DOA at that price. Even if I had a PC that was "VR ready" I would go for Oculus instead.
PSVR for me.
UnrealEck
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It doesn't need it. It's an option.
Not really when you consider that all of the components are probably cheaper than the Rift's. Oculus is selling at cost. HTC is most likely not.
thomasmahler
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That'd be my guess, 499 USD.
Universal device, incrementally upgraded for almost 100 years, works with all products, well ingrained into society, it does what it does perfectly with only the most edge-case usability concerns.
VR success in 2066 confirmed.
ArtHands
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The problem for me isn't the entry price, but that it doesn't feel very sensible spending the UK price equivalent for unproven hardware.
I spent 600 quid on my ROG Swift monitor which is a similar price, but I knew the purchase would benefit all my PC gaming with GSync. So far I've yet to see any game which makes this a must buy. And packaging Job Simulator with premium hardware doesn't help.
I spent 600 quid on my ROG Swift monitor which is a similar price, but I knew the purchase would benefit all my PC gaming with GSync. So far I've yet to see any game which makes this a must buy. And packaging Job Simulator with premium hardware doesn't help.
CosmicQueso
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Forget $799 for the Vive.
Forget the $1.5k for the PC to run it.
I'm trying to figure out how I afford the $1.5m house I'll need to buy so I can have an empty room in which to use it!
Forget the $1.5k for the PC to run it.
I'm trying to figure out how I afford the $1.5m house I'll need to buy so I can have an empty room in which to use it!
DeepEnigma
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You only need a recliner for all those porn simulators.
me0wish
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Understandable, but pretty disappointing. Thanks for clarifying.
habithipster
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Valve/HTC are focusing on room-scale 360 experiences with tracked controllers. Look up Fantastic Contraption, Budget Cuts, Hover Junkers, Arizona Sunshine, Job Simulator, Modbox, Tilt Brush, and Legend of Luca for some examples.
Oculus are currently focused on sitting/standing forward-facing experiences with an Xbox controller.
Alx
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HDTV was an improvement on a device and technology that had a big market, and with which everybody was familiar. Also, the fact that the sets were much thinner than CRTs helped a lot, both for consumers and for retailers.
VR is a completely new market, it will have its specific hurdles. Maybe it would be easier to compare it to smartphones, although that's also different (smartphone mostly gave mobility to common tasks like browsing the internet).
There have been HDTVs for 100 years?! Content was still the issue for HD as it is now for UHD. Pricing started high for all of them and was driven down over several years. VR indeed has even less content but a myriad more uses and possibilities. This will be made clear in time as it has been for new technologies previously.
FFS to all of you saying RIP, lol or any other response like that...we've been here before, don't you remember? don't you remember that choosing what is best based on the cheapest price only get us under performing hardware?
This is VR, a tech for the future why would you want them to go the cheapest route possible for this?
This is VR, a tech for the future why would you want them to go the cheapest route possible for this?
UnrealEck
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Won what?
Now that HTC revealed the last details of its VR system, Vive, a day before Mobile World Congress officially starts, what are the possibilities of Sony announcing the PSVR details during its conference tomorrow during its event?
Edit: For all the people still hoping for a $299 PSVR, keep in mind that a $399 (or even $449) is a much more realistic price tag (only counting the headset itself).
ps: I used to think it was going to cost #399 but for some reason I have the feeling that we will see a $449 soon, again, only for the headset.
Edit: For all the people still hoping for a $299 PSVR, keep in mind that a $399 (or even $449) is a much more realistic price tag (only counting the headset itself).
ps: I used to think it was going to cost #399 but for some reason I have the feeling that we will see a $449 soon, again, only for the headset.
ArtHands
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look at his avatar
lifa-cobex
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It's definitely going to be interesting. People who think that PSVR is going to be much cheaper than Oculus Rift are probably in for a major disappointment.
I can't imagine it will be less than $500 with all items included: camera and (possibly) move controller.
That's if it's priced less than oculus. It probably will be but it needs that lower price
Let me get this straight:
- PC VR is dead on arrival.
- The PSVR has already won.
- The PSVR is better than either of these devices by virtue of not being as expensive.
- Sony is somehow packing its VR headset with equal or better technology than both HTC and Oculus, yet manages to charge way less (allegedly, but almost assumed to be true).
OK. I've always known that GAF was extremely pro-PS4, but... man...
- PC VR is dead on arrival.
- The PSVR has already won.
- The PSVR is better than either of these devices by virtue of not being as expensive.
- Sony is somehow packing its VR headset with equal or better technology than both HTC and Oculus, yet manages to charge way less (allegedly, but almost assumed to be true).
OK. I've always known that GAF was extremely pro-PS4, but... man...
Because if it doesn't get adopted by a decent number it's going nowhere? 800 isn't going to get the critical mass of people they need
It should be, as it will be an inferior device.
UnrealEck
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What about those other obscure low-priced VR headsets for the PC? Why aren't people saying they've won? Wouldn't that make more sense than 'Sony's won' since those are PC and they're cheaper? The whole premise of these 'Sony's won' seems to be VR for a lower price. You could argue about the games, but there's not going to be much support for a PS headset with PC games anyway.
lukeskymac
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You were expecting too much.
Honestly... the Occulus Rift price softened the blow, $799 for Vive is not that bad considering the Rift is $599.
I bet HTC raised the price after hearing the Rift was $599. We will just have to wait for the tear downs to determine the profit margins of these things. There would have been no hope for the Vive if the Rift sold for $350-400, and the Rift was $799. The $200 difference doesn't look that bad, given its first to market for room scale VR.
What this means is, that people should probably hold off and see how it does. If the Vive does poorly compared to the Rift, then HTC will have no choice but to reduce their price. I absolutely think there will be a price drop this year to be honest, once they capture the first wave of customers who are willing to be top tier price.
Secondly its hard to be sure of HTC supporting this well. It's best to play it safe and see how it does. The rift is a safer bet, considering it looks like it has Facebook money and seems to have a roadmap of where its heading in the future.
I bet HTC raised the price after hearing the Rift was $599. We will just have to wait for the tear downs to determine the profit margins of these things. There would have been no hope for the Vive if the Rift sold for $350-400, and the Rift was $799. The $200 difference doesn't look that bad, given its first to market for room scale VR.
What this means is, that people should probably hold off and see how it does. If the Vive does poorly compared to the Rift, then HTC will have no choice but to reduce their price. I absolutely think there will be a price drop this year to be honest, once they capture the first wave of customers who are willing to be top tier price.
Secondly its hard to be sure of HTC supporting this well. It's best to play it safe and see how it does. The rift is a safer bet, considering it looks like it has Facebook money and seems to have a roadmap of where its heading in the future.
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