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[Angelus Errare]

How quickly people forget.

Also, there is no sure thing in a 1-on-1 general election.

All Trump needs is a bad Clinton meme, a stock market slip or terror attack, and a rainy Election Day and our nation could swing fifteen points and give it to him.

No one forgot just some people understand the concept that is a shift in demographic. Bush won 16 years ago. Or to put into perspective. Bush and Romney both grabbed the same percentage of white votes.

All Clinton needs to win is the economy doing well, Trump being shot or falling ill, a sunny Election day and our nation could swing fifteen points and give it to her.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

If you're white and well off maybe.

What exactly will Hillary do though to help those who are not white and well off?

 

[Relix]

He may be able to beat Bernie Sanders if he wins the primary and that scares me shit less. So, here's hoping Hillary wins the nom!

 

[TheWarrior]

God help us all. If the GOP want to stop him, they have to do something right now. Waiting until after Super Tuesday is a mistake. He is about to become the nominee of your party. What an embarrassment. I'd be ashamed to be labeled as a Republican if he won.

Wake up America.

It's funny because I think the same exact thing about Hillary. I would be embarrassed as a Democrat to have her as the nominee.

At the end of her first term, If Hillary wins the presidency, there will have been a Bush or Clinton in the White House for 24 of 32 years. I can see why so many voters are flocking to anti establishment candidates like Bernie and Trump.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

He may be able to beat Bernie Sanders if he wins the primary and that scares me shit less. So, here's hoping Hillary wins the nom!

The path for Bernie to be the nominee is about the same as it is for Cruz or Rubio.

Not likely.

 

[Relix]

The path for Bernie to be the nominee is about the same as it is for Cruz or Rubio.

Not likely.

And I hope it stays that way. I agree with Bernie on many points but he's way too polarizing especially when someone as dangerous as Trump is around the corner.

Of course I am spouting shit because I Live in PR and can't vote for the GE but yeah, this scares me as it has an effect on the worldwide scale.

 

[Euron]

It really depends on how Bernie supporters react after he loses. If they decide not to vote or even vote against Hillary, we're fucked. After the Nevada Caucus last weekend I saw posts on r/politics of people saying they're going to vote Trump because of what Hillary has been doing to Bernie (winning?). No this does not represent a majority but it may be the beginning of a disturbing trend.

Trump is able to inspire people to come out of the woodwork and vote for him. If Hillary cannot do the same or worse, ends up getting people to come out and vote against her, Trump may have a legitimate shot at winning the general election.

That being said, you can all comfort yourselves knowing that the Hispanic turnout will be greater than ever as many of them will come out during the general just to vote against Trump. Whether or not that will hand Clinton the election by default is dependent entirely on how Bernie's supporters behave.

The path for Bernie to be the nominee is about the same as it is for Cruz or Rubio.

Not likely.

Bernie is less likely to win than even Trump. If he made it to the general, that would guarantee a Bloomberg run, which would split the vote. And all Republicans would rally around their candidate, no matter who it is just to prevent a self-declared socialist from taking office. And before anybody references any of the current polls, they don't mean anything. In 2012 the same ones had Herman Cain beating Obama.

 

[Downhome]

From FoxNews this morning before I left to go to work...

 

[MarkMclovin]

It'll be like watching a slow car crash if he does. It's great watching it from the UK too.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Other than all the vile racist things like wanting to deport 11 million people he calls rapists, wanting an indefinite ban on Muslims, and the misogyny, and wanting to reverse LGBT rights, other than that; and a tax plan that largely benefits the wealthy while creating a massive budget hole, and the just plain stupid things like 30% tariffs, and building a wall that Mexico pays for. And his candidacy being driven by pro-WWII internment, shouldn't have freed slaves racists.

Other than that. And, you know the whole being completely unqualified for the role.

Well, when you really think about it. Yeah they are basically the same.

 

[Loxley]

I legitimately think he's going to get crushed by Hillary in the general. Like, it won't even be close.

I could absolutely be wrong, but at the moment I don't believe I will be.

 

[Maddness]

 

[shoplifter]

I legitimately think he's going to get crushed by Hillary in the general. Like, it won't even be close.

I could absolutely be wrong, but at the moment I don't believe I will be.

I don't. A huge portion of the population on both the left and right *really* don't like her.

 

[Rubenov]

And I hope it stays that way. I agree with Bernie on many points but he's way too polarizing especially when someone as dangerous as Trump is around the corner.

Of course I am spouting shit because I Live in PR and can't vote for the GE but yeah, this scares me as it has an effect on the worldwide scale.

hey Relix, how do you see Trump's chances of winning PR in the primary? I thought Marco Rubio had it in the bag and placed a bet on him, but now with Trump winning latinos in Nevada I'm not so sure.

 

[Lagamorph]

OK America, it was funny at first but seriously, cut it out now.

 

[TumblingHippo]

The Republicans thought that Romney versus Obama was a sure thing. Why are Democrats so willing to make the same mistake?

How prepared are you for the threads the day after the election if Trump does win?

 

[Angelus Errare]

What exactly will Hillary do though to help those who are not white and well off?

Certainly ain't trying to round up anyone who is brown and fits the "terrorist" look. Or build some wall to keep all the "raping" at bay (you people are idiots if you think his wall will get built). Nor is she drumming up a userbase of racist ain't shit fucks every rally.

How they speak on this things alone regardless if they can actually get them done speaks volumes of both them, their supporters and the idiots who think they're both essentially the same.

No offense but you have to live in a very dense bubble if you believe the two are even remotely alike on racial issues. And you're free to believe live in that bubble all comfortable and shit that's your prerogative but please stop embarrassing yourself with this whole "they're both the same" nonsense, it just makes you sound remedial fam.

Like I said, they're really only the same if you're uninformed but parading around thinking you're enlightened or some shit. That or you're white and well off (or both). Also add in the millions of not well off whites who've been told for the past 200+ years that the "others" are either trying to kill them, take their jobs, their welfare, their women, their religion.

 

[Rubenov]

From FoxNews this morning before I left to go to work...

Nice, new Fox News meme!

 

[jmdajr]

Other than all the vile racist things like wanting to deport 11 million people he calls rapists, wanting an indefinite ban on Muslims, and the misogyny, and wanting to reverse LGBT rights, other than that; and a tax plan that largely benefits the wealthy while creating a massive budget hole, and the just plain stupid things like 30% tariffs, and building a wall that Mexico pays for. And his candidacy being driven by pro-WWII internment, shouldn't have freed slaves racists.

Other than that. And, you know the whole being completely unqualified for the role.

Well, when you really think about it. Yeah they are basically the same.

At least he's not a religious nut.

Counts for something....


right???

 

[Kar]

I hope Trump wins the entire thing.
I really want to see what kind of a president he is going to be.

 

[Sgtpepper89]

IF he does, the next election will be very interesting.

There wont be any next election since the world will be blown in pieces by then..

 

[Visceir]

I imagine he will change his tone in the general election if he gets the nomination. I doubt he believes even half the things he is saying right now.

 

[gutter_trash]

Trump's ace for the GE is Ohio

At least he's not a religious nut.

Counts for something....


right???

this is where he wins among moderates against other Republicans.

he never talks about gays, he doesn't talk about abortion, he concentrates on protectionsism, populism and nationslism and jobs.

Trump will move to the middle and has talked allot about Reagan Democrats, he is going hard in Ohio

 

[RPGCrazied]

There wont be any next election since the world will be blown in pieces by then..

Yep. Politics will be gone. Thanks Trump. I can't even imagine a world with no President or government. Is this how Fallout starts?

 

[Crimson_Fate]

The Republicans thought that Romney versus Obama was a sure thing. Why are Democrats so willing to make the same mistake?

How prepared are you for the threads the day after the election if Trump does win?

I plan to have alot of fun that day.. I will likely be banned at some point but it will be worth it .

 

[Relix]

hey Relix, how do you see Trump's chances of winning PR in the primary? I thought Marco Rubio had it in the bag and placed a bet on him, but now with Trump winning latinos in Nevada I'm not so sure.

I believe 3 of the Super delegates are with Rubio and the rest aren't clear. Trump has no chance here, a movement was started but it's not going anywhere. If they hold the Democrat elections like in 2008 then Hillary will win, in fact she beat Obama here. I did my part and voted for Obama .

 

[jmdajr]

I hope Trump wins the entire thing.
I really want to see what kind of a president he is going to be.

I just can't picture him giving a Presidential Speech. I mean I can....in a parody of some kind, but real life?

 

[Rubenov]

At least he's not a religious nut.

Counts for something....


right???

- Not religious

- Not against homosexuals

- Only lip service to abortion (due to Repub primaries)

- For "humane" health care ("we can't let people die in the streets"!)

So basically, not a social conservative like Rubio or Cruz. This is good, as the social conservative wing of the GOP NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE ALREADY.

 

[-TK-]

Yes, I really hope he wins.

 

[RPGCrazied]

- Not religious

- Not against homosexuals

- Only lip service to abortion (due to Repub primaries)

- For "humane" health care ("we can't let people die in the streets"!)

So basically, not a social conservative like Rubio or Cruz. This is good, as the social conservative wing of the GOP NEEDS TO FUCKING DIE ALREADY.

But banning a religion from entering the country, citing violence at every turn, insulting women, disabled. That's good to right? Give me a break. He acts like a teenager in high school. He is unfit for any sort of office.

The fact he isn't getting more backlash from everyone, specially the media is fucking sad.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

You'd be surprised how many like him. I live in Miami and speak to Cubans every day. Another thing I've heard from a lot of Latinos is that they dont want a woman as a president under any circumstances. Take that however you want

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest..

 

[jmdajr]

A small list of Trump targets

That hasn't slowed down either. In fact, who hasn't he offended at this point? Basically, no one. Trump's targets:

The Pope
George W. Bush
Women
Mexican immigrants
Fox News
Refugees
Muslims
The Koch brothers
Washington
Apple

Heck, even liberals will agree on some of those. Bush. Fox. Koch Brothers. Washington?....the Pope?(maybe)

 

[Byakuya769]

The Republicans thought that Romney versus Obama was a sure thing. Why are Democrats so willing to make the same mistake?

How prepared are you for the threads the day after the election if Trump does win?

Demographics, math, prior precedent, common sense, realizing that GE republicans are different than primary voter republican... common sense again.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

The Republicans thought that Romney versus Obama was a sure thing. Why are Democrats so willing to make the same mistake?

How prepared are you for the threads the day after the election if Trump does win?

Republicans were skewing polls and making stuff up to pretend Romney had a chance. In this case, Democrats have the actual polls and actual stats behind them that Trump has a very serious hill he needs to overcome, and he's not doing any sort of effort to get over it.

 

[benjipwns]

I think I'll trust actual Presidential candidate Donald Trump's electoral analysis over a bunch of wannabe pundits on NeoGAF.com.

It's like some of you people don't even want to Make America Great Again™.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

IMO he has a 35% chance of winning, which is higher, in my eyes, than any other candidate's chance to win. You bet he can win if he continues pushing like how he's pushing and others fold under his words.

 

[Blader]

What exactly will Hillary do though to help those who are not white and well off?

I think you underestimate how Trump's rhetoric popularizes hate speech on a national stage.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

He'll only win if Bernie supporters go full-on childish and vote for him to spite Hillary.

luckily I don't think there is enough of Sander's base crazy(racist) enough to do this and alter the election

 

[RPGCrazied]

Time and time again I have to say thanks to Trump for one thing. Bringing out these people that would normally stayed shadowed to show their love for this man, and try to defend his policies. Easier to find and complete ignore them forever.


I mean, when you have white supremacists groups supporting you, making calls to promote you. If that right there doesn't speak volumes, nothing will.

 

[80s Bad Guy]

He has a very serious chance. Way more than people give him credit for. People think minorities will save the election are discounting the amount of redneck nutjobs who will come out of the woodwork for this fool.

My dad (a tea party loon who doesn't believe in evolution) is a complete supporter. He says that Trump will hire the right people and be focused on the economy where we are in serious trouble. He also says all of the military will vote against Hillary for her betrayal in Bengazhi and that all of the special forces know she betrayed Seal Team 6 by tipping off insurgents who planted a bomb on their Chinook. I don't argue with him during these conversations, I agree with everything he says just to keep the laughs rolling.

It's like people talk themselves into whatever they believe.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Other than all the vile racist things like wanting to deport 11 million people he calls rapists, wanting an indefinite ban on Muslims, and the misogyny, and wanting to reverse LGBT rights, other than that; and a tax plan that largely benefits the wealthy while creating a massive budget hole, and the just plain stupid things like 30% tariffs, and building a wall that Mexico pays for. And his candidacy being driven by pro-WWII internment, shouldn't have freed slaves racists.

Other than that. And, you know the whole being completely unqualified for the role.

Well, when you really think about it. Yeah they are basically the same.

Heeeeeeey now, don't misrepresent. Trump only wants a ban on muslims entering the country "until we can figure out what the hell is going on". That's not necessarily indefinite.

Edit: In fact, Trump is such a super genius he'd probably figure out what's going on in like one second.

 

[benjipwns]

I mean, when you have white supremacists groups supporting you, making calls to promote you. If that right there doesn't speak volumes, nothing will.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-supremacists-see-hope-in-obama-win/

 

[HylianTom]

luckily I don't think there is enough of Sander's base crazy(racist) enough to do this and alter the election

Agree.

We keep seeing the old "Hillary is wildly unpopular on the left" and "a lot of Bernie supports won't vote for her" canards, but polling simply does not support these claims, and repeating them over and over doesn't make them true. Too many people are conflating what they see online with real life.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

At least he's not a religious nut.

Counts for something....


right???

Well, Trump is also against the TPP.

That counts too. Sanders is also against it. Hillary on the other hand has flopped around like a fish on this issue. Her husband is why we have NAFTA and why we have lost so many jobs to China.

This is probably the most important issue currently and is largely ignored - because it isn't nearly as flashy as the myriad of social issues that also need to be addressed.

 

[Angelus Errare]

He has a very serious chance. Way more than people give him credit for. People think minorities will save the election are discounting the amount of redneck nutjobs who will come out of the woodwork for this fool.

My dad (a tea party loon who doesn't believe in evolution) is a complete supporter. He says that Trump will hire the right people and be focused on the economy where we are in serious trouble. He also says all of the military will vote against Hillary for her betrayal in Bengazhi and that all of the special forces know she betrayed Seal Team 6 by tipping off insurgents who planted a bomb on their Chinook. I don't argue with him during these conversations, I agree with everything he says just to keep the laughs rolling.

It's like people talk themselves into whatever they believe.

So basically conservatives' main base they've always pandered to since the inception of the Southern Strategy?

*zzzzz*

 

[Splendor]

Right now the numbers say no. People right now are equating roughly 40% of the republican primary voters with the rest of America, which is inaccurate. His own party refuses to coalesce around him and among those who are not his direct supporters he is hated. He cant beat Rubio in a 1-on-1 race among the part of the voter base that is more accepting of his rhetoric, but people expect him to beat Hilary when all the people who truly loathe him are also casting votes? Trump stands as a testament to the GOP's sins and out of my own social circles, which skew small-town conservative, he is so hated that life-long republicans who vote in every election may sit this one out.

 

[80s Bad Guy]

So basically conservatives' main base they've always pandered to since the inception of the Southern Strategy?

*zzzzz*

They'll climb out of their 9/11 bunkers for this one. Look what happened in Nevada.

 

[Anoregon]

He has a very serious chance. Way more than people give him credit for. People think minorities will save the election are discounting the amount of redneck nutjobs who will come out of the woodwork for this fool.

My dad (a tea party loon who doesn't believe in evolution) is a complete supporter. He says that Trump will hire the right people and be focused on the economy where we are in serious trouble. He also says all of the military will vote against Hillary for her betrayal in Bengazhi and that all of the special forces know she betrayed Seal Team 6 by tipping off insurgents who planted a bomb on their Chinook. I don't argue with him during these conversations, I agree with everything he says just to keep the laughs rolling.

It's like people talk themselves into whatever they believe.

Man, I always feel really bad for folks who have such backwards, regressive fathers. My dad is certainly to the right of me (he fucking HATES the Clintons and attributes much of the success of the Clinton years to Newt Gingrich) but he is also completely rational and very intelligent, so he doesn't believe any sort of fox news-type nonsense. Even though we don't see eye to eye on everything, having any sort of political or social discussion with him is never painful or heated.

 

[BSsBrolly]

The Republicans thought that Romney versus Obama was a sure thing. Why are Democrats so willing to make the same mistake?

How prepared are you for the threads the day after the election if Trump does win?

At least it isn't Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. That alone will bring me a little comfort.

 

[Flai]

What exactly will Hillary do though to help those who are not white and well off?

At least she's not planning to get rid of Obamacare and she is pro-LBGT, pro gay marriage and pro-choice. And looking at her website she seems to be for paid family/medical leave, for free community colleges, for lower student debt interest rates, pro-unions and plans to raise the minimum wage.

Actually most of her policies seem to be good for non-white and poor/middle class people.