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[Altered Juice]

Dude Jonathan got fucking g-checked in that tweet.

OOOOOOOOOHHHHH!

 

[gamerMan]

I mean I have no outrage here at all but I assume someone at ND needed some art for a crucial moment in the game and figured "lets just google it?" is that normal practice?

I see no other way they would get ubisoft concept art

You can't just google things and put them in your game without asking permission. That's plagiarism. I think what happened is that Naughty Dog's artists collected a whole bunch of images on the Internet.

This particular photo must have got mixed up with their concept art. The artist probably didn't know it was Ubi's concept art and stuck it as a texture on the frame.

At least that's what I hoped happened, but it has happened twice which is one time too many.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I think part of the reason this has blown up bigger than most think it should is because this isn't the first time it's happened with Naughty Dog.

 

[Fbh]

Silly mistake.
But yeah, they got called out on it, apologized and fixed it. Not sure what some people on here are expecting.

Trying to twist it around and make it seem like a good thing with the whole "they should be honored" argument is stupid, true. But then you also have people acting as if Naughty Dog had a big meeting where everyone was like "yeah, let's steal art from Ubisoft!!!!!!"

Someone clearly screwed up and probably got into trouble for it. And the company apologized for the issue. This shouldn't be such an unheard of situation for anyone who has worked in any type of big company

 

[chozen]

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

 

[Uno Venova]

Though this is a 30 page thread, it could be a 30 page thread of people patting Naughty Dog on the back and saying it's okay. That's what I meant when I replied to the guy who questioned this dude. >

But there aren't also people scolding ND for this issue? So how is it a free pass.. unless you need a 100% agreement on a subject?

 

[joms5]

What do you want them (ND) to do to apologize for their mistake then?

Nothing. They already said what they needed to say. It's over.

My response was to those people who keep making it seem like ND had it so rough over this issue. This was nothing. People over react too much.

 

[Hedrush]

Naughty Dog Fucks up
Internet rages
Naughty Dog apologises
Internet rages

I wonder what tomorrow will bring?

 

[Bergerac]

OHGODHOWEVERWILLISLEEP?

I know, I'll print off that picture and use it as my pillow.

 

[spannicus]

Your gods have been naughty

 

[Jonneh3003]

Tried a cleaner version

 

[msdstc]

Silly mistake.
But yeah, they got called out on it, apologized and fixed it. Not sure what some people on here are expecting.

Trying to twist it around and make it seem like a good thing with the whole "they should be honored" argument is stupid, true. But then you also have people acting as if Naughty Dog had a big meeting where everyone was like "yeah, let's steal art from Ubisoft!!!!!!"

Someone clearly screwed up and probably got into trouble for it. And the company apologized for the issue. This shouldn't be such an unheard of situation for anyone who has worked in any type of big company

Completely agreed. For whatever reason it's always been easier for me to ignore people like that, because I again I feel like these people know what they're doing when they say that. How could you think a game would get canned over something like this situation? That being said the same people coming in and throwing every excuse imaginable and essentially arguing for the sake of stealing are just as bad, and for me it's more agitating, because they can't see the flaw in the logic.

 

[Miroku129]

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

>Ubisoft
>Professional

Pick one

 

[PapaJustify]

That's a poor line of thinking, especially when its happened twice to ND. As I said before, ND deserves every bit of praise they get, but if they make a mistake they deserve to be criticized.

I think that is a very human thing to do as we base our decisions and views on emotions.

Also, I totally agree that they made a mistake but they owned up to it. So that is good. But I also agree that the tides will turn for them now if that kind of blunder ever happens to them again.

 

[GeordieMark]

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

Somebody would have noticed sooner or later.

 

[msdstc]

I think that is a very human thing to do as we base our decisions and views on emotions.

Also, I totally agree that they made a mistake but they owned up to it. So that is good. But I also agree that the tides will turn for them now if that kind of blunder ever happens to them again.

Well it's happened twice to specifically them, so now is when they would take a look and say, ok we have to change the process. If it were to happen again that would be an insane lack of diligence on their part.

 

[dragonflys545]

I think that is a very human thing to do as we base our decisions and views on emotions.

Also, I totally agree that they made a mistake but they owned up to it. So that is good. But I also agree that the tides will turn for them now if that kind of blunder ever happens to them again.

I highly doubt it.

 

[oti]

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

>Ubisoft
>Professional

Pick one

This is just as bad as some of the worst posts on here. ONE (rightfully) pissed developer tweeted about it. OMG you guys how unprofessional of Ubisoft. Please. Did Yves Guillemot run over your dog or something.

 

[Reg]

Yeah, one of the artists (texture or environmental) screwed up.

 

[PapaJustify]

Well it's happened twice to specifically them, so now is when they would take a look and say, ok we have to change the process. If it were to happen again that would be an insane lack of diligence on their part.

I agree. They should get paranoid with all their assets now.

 

[msdstc]

I highly doubt it.

why?

 

[Mory Dunz]

and that black girl is played by a white girl

 

[chozen]

This is just as bad as some of the worst posts on here. ONE (rightfully) pissed developer tweeted about it. OMG you guys how unprofessional of Ubisoft. Please. Did Yves Guillemot run over your dog or something.

lol this is too much, I can't in this thread.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

revenge tweet was more satisfying

 

[udivision]

that black girl is played by a white girl

i know rite

 

[dEvAnGeL]

All this nonsense for an image, ffs

 

[oti]

lol this is too much, I can't in this thread.

I know what you're saying, I just don't think that stating Ubisoft (as a whole) was unprofessional was justified. That one developer tweeting about it? Sure. But he's just a human.

 

[dragonflys545]

why?

It'll get patched or fixed and Gamers will continue to buy their games.

 

[Instro]

This is just as bad as some of the worst posts on here. ONE (rightfully) pissed developer tweeted about it. OMG you guys how unprofessional of Ubisoft. Please. Did Yves Guillemot run over your dog or something.

Lol don't worry, these are the kind of people that will attack reviewers for anything less than a 9. It's not surprising they will turn on anyone that appears to have slighted their favorite developer

 

[Granjinha]

>Ubisoft
>Professional

Pick one

Ubisoft could have been professional and messaged Naughty Dog about it quietly instead of letting it out in the public.

lol

you guys are kidding, right?

 

[PapaJustify]

I highly doubt it.

Well, there will always be a defence force. There is a defence force for almost everything. But I can say for me personally that I will definitely look at it differently if they make this mistake a third time.

 

[XxRampage07xX]

Nothing. They already said what they needed to say. It's over.

My response was to those people who keep making it seem like ND had it so rough over this issue. This was nothing. People over react too much.

They might be overreacting but to be fair, they just wanted to make the point "ND didn't get a free pass."

 

[PaulloDEC]

A single piece of nicked placeholder art ends up in a trailer and we spend 31 pages talking about it. 31 pages. Amazing.

 

[foxbeldin]

A single piece of nicked placeholder art ends up in a trailer and we spend 31 pages talking about it. 31 pages. Amazing.

This thread will soon be bigger than the one actually about the trailer and that makes me sad.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Silly mistake.
But yeah, they got called out on it, apologized and fixed it. Not sure what some people on here are expecting.

Trying to twist it around and make it seem like a good thing with the whole "they should be honored" argument is stupid, true. But then you also have people acting as if Naughty Dog had a big meeting where everyone was like "yeah, let's steal art from Ubisoft!!!!!!"

Someone clearly screwed up and probably got into trouble for it. And the company apologized for the issue. This shouldn't be such an unheard of situation for anyone who has worked in any type of big company

This is all that needs to be said. Whoever is pushing what's stated in this post are freaking ridiculous.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

A single piece of nicked placeholder art ends up in a trailer and we spend 31 pages talking about it. 31 pages. Amazing.

Would you rather such blatant thievery not be highlighted for the despicable crime it is?

 

[GorillaJu]

It was probably a placeholder and they forgot to change it before releasing the trailer.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Would you rather such blatant thievery not be highlighted for the despicable crime it is?

Its a game about a thief, jeez some people just don't get references!

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

They do seem to be hacks walking around in artist's clothing sometimes.

That's why the Druckman thing always bugged me, based on what little info was available. It seemed as though people let him believe he was making the The Road when really he just made a zombie movie after that sort of thing was way overdone.

From there, the egos probably ran the joint. I thought all three Indiana Jones rip offs were more novel than the zombie rip off.

 

[sn00zer]

Guessing this one of those things that was never supposed to leave a design doc. Lotta concept art and photos from other sources gets drawn over for internal docs.

 

[Sky Saw]

They do seem to be hacks walking around in artist's clothing sometimes.

That's why the Druckman thing always bugged me, based on what little info was available. It seemed as though people let him believe he was making the The Road when really he just made a zombie movie after that sort of thing was way overdone.

From there, the egos probably ran the joint. I thought all three Indiana Jones rip offs were more model than the zombie rip off.

Damn you are ripped.

 

[Mar Nosso]

They do seem to be hacks walking around in artist's clothing sometime.

That's why Druckman always bugged me. It seemed as though people let him believe he was making the The Road when really he just made a zombie movie after that sort of thing was way overdone.

From there, the egos probably ran the joint. I thought all three Indiana Jones rip offs were more model than the zombie rip off.

Ok mods, time to close the thread methinks. People have lost all common sense now.

 

[Pestilence11]

I love that this is still raging on hours after it was settled.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

It was probably a placeholder and they forgot to change it before releasing the trailer.

yup Reading NDs apology statement in the OP sounds like that's exactly what this was.

 

[Nabbis]

A single piece of nicked placeholder art ends up in a trailer and we spend 31 pages talking about it. 31 pages. Amazing.

Im actually surprised it's only 31 pages. Eden alone would fill it up if he argued with ND fanboys.

 

[zsynqx]

They do seem to be hacks walking around in artist's clothing sometimes.

That's why the Druckman thing always bugged me, based on what little info was available. It seemed as though people let him believe he was making the The Road when really he just made a zombie movie after that sort of thing was way overdone.

From there, the egos probably ran the joint. I thought all three Indiana Jones rip offs were more model than the zombie rip off.

lol

 

[PaulloDEC]

Would you rather such blatant thievery not be highlighted for the despicable crime it is?

I literally can't tell if you're having me on right now. That's what this thread has done to me.

 

[SketchTheArtist]

Would you rather such blatant thievery not be highlighted for the despicable crime it is?

It's not thievery. It was never meant to be in the trailer. It was used as a placeholder during pre-production.

 

[oti]

Is this what SEGA vs. Nintendo was like back in the day?

 

[boredandlazy]

I disagree with this as well given the reaction shouldn't matter, when if they did steal (intentionally not by mistake as is the case), then they did so thinking they could get away with it.

Also saying "skullduggery of the highest order" is the very definition of putting words in my mouth. I never said what they've done is monumental, I even said they made a stupid mistake on far more than one occasion, that being said the people insinuating that if it was intentional it doesn't matter given the scale of the item stolen? Those people are wrong, and I think giving them a pass for that is wrong.

Ok, I'll accept that using 'skulduggery of the highest order's was overstating things a little. Although to be honest that was more snark than any sort of attack on your stance.