FinalStageBoss
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Someone probably took it off Google and edited the pic with out knowing it was Ubis. Stupid mistake but not stealing, and that person will likely be fired.
Eurogamer: AC art used for Uncharted 4 trailer (Up: Naughty Dog responds)
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Someone probably took it off Google and edited the pic with out knowing it was Ubis. Stupid mistake but not stealing, and that person will likely be fired.
no I meant it was shitty of them to call out Ubi's animators
I knew the image was familiar from something I recently saw lolWell, the updated picture is still stolen and I think Naughty Dog needs to be under serious investigation for theft.
Nice catch
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It's why I fear this industry will truly never grow up. From some journalists, to gaming personalities to even this. People are too caught up in "Gotcha" moments.
Majima Everywhere System
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Oh god, I misjudged the internet backlash on this one! Sorry guys. I thought we were doing this today:
http://kotaku.com/5891242/gamers-are-now-angry-at-bioware-because-of-an-image-in-mass-effect-3
http://kotaku.com/5891242/gamers-are-now-angry-at-bioware-because-of-an-image-in-mass-effect-3
I could imagine we'll still see a different version in the final game. The original intention seemed to be that it's a painting and not a photograph.
Well, the updated picture is still stolen and I think Naughty Dog needs to be under serious investigation for theft.
funny guy lmao
I know this can be very serious issue, if the companies want it to be but I hope not. I also hope the guy doesn't get fired due to this misstep. But again it could've been or potential be serious, i really hope not
Stealing art and claiming it as your own is a major no no. To say it was just a simple mistake is a direct insult to the artist who drew that.
Hacks, I tell ya. Nothing but a bunch of hacks:
Anyway, don't pin the fuck up of one person on the team that created what you see above you. Not to mention the body of work they have already established.
That looks impressive and all, but how's the fish AI? In other words, do they move out of the way when the player gets near?
yeah even going back to the original dig at Ubi about female character animations, for peers working on the same type of stuff it is just generally shitty to call each other out like that ESPECIALLY considering how tough it is to make games these days
Going to Google and getting a random image without checking if its even copyright is definitely stealing.
Psychoward
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but it was a mistake?
yeah it's shitty but they're not doubling down on it, it was an individual's action and the company obviously isn't okay with it
lyrick
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Well rationally there was probably more than One person involved in this.
- At least one person possibly collected and used the art without the permission of the copyright holder [Ubisoft]
- At least one person was supposedly in charge of 'vetting' the artwork for release, to avoid conflict of interest this should not be the same person(s) as above.
- The Management for whatever reason allows non licensed artwork to be used during production (or else they wouldn't have a vetting person)...
For this to happen (at least twice now) it seems to be a collection of people fucking up.
so what are you suggesting they should have done other than admit it, apologize, and fix it?
You still haven't shown where they said it was a simple mistake. Until you do, you are just shit posting.
KratosEnergyDrink
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Oh, Ubi is the bad guy here...
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Lmao! The turn around on the response was so quick. I wonder if the person who did this is fired.
did you miss the part where I also said what ND did was unprofessional?
Some people have a few axes to grind.
No it isn't.
Now if they had just said fuck you we are using it for free, then that would be a direct insult.
I think that will depend if it was a likely mistake or not. I mean, if it happened intentionally they have every reason to fire him. One, because he steals art and two because he doesn't do the job they're paying him for.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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They stole all the assets from real books so they turned the books around so no one could tell.
old manatee
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Yep. You don't even have to say it like that. A general comment about inclusiveness was all that was needed.
Like you guys are all in the same industry. Working hard, plagued with shitty hours etc.
ArtHands
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Could have overlay something across or in the corner of the pic , to serves as a reminder that its a placeholder and due to be replaced
lol
I'm sure he won't get fired.
Well I would say the next step is to talk about what they are going to do differently. There is clearly a problem when they've been caught red handed twice for this, and at least once for taking someone's likeness for their characters. That's a pattern that needs to be addressed I think.
wait are you throwing the whole ellen page TLOU shenanigans into this? really?
Ok...who are you talking about here?
1.21Gigawatts
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How can something like that even happen? I am right when I assume that someone at some point must have consciously taken the picture knowing its someone elses artwork?
I'm pretty sure this is sarcasm, but I just want to be clear that I think Naughty Dog was unprofessional as well.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Unless you work for ND or Sony you can't know that. It's possible the same individual caused the problem with the copied map in TLOU too. This would be two straight games.
Huh to the last part? That doesn't seem to be the case at all... ND fessed up fast.
CMojicaAce
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I feel like it was just an employee who was feeling lazy and decided to use an image that he thought nobody would ever recognize. I really dont think everyone working on UC4 just went "let's steal some art from someone else! Yeah!"
Unfortunately, we'll never know exactly what happened but it's good that they apologized quickly.
Unfortunately, we'll never know exactly what happened but it's good that they apologized quickly.
you don't remember when they stole Ellen Page's face?
pixellated_man
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Your, concerns (ahem) has already been addressed many times over in this thread.
But carry on if it scratches some sort of itch you've been carrying.
family_guy
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Yes but don't make it seem like everyone at Naughty Dog was complicit in this. I mean I had no idea what the original painting was from and wouldn't expect those who approved the trailer's release to know. It's not the Mona Lisa. It's some random art from a game that not many people played or paid attention to.
Could be, but I am not going to pin it on the entire team who are obviously some of the best in the business and had no idea about this. Yet I do think it was done with full knowledge based on the pirate being shopped out and it certainly is not okay just because it's Naughty Dog. Which is why I would not be surprised if at least one person gets canned over it.
You are assuming right. Somebody just Google images this shit and put it in the game. They probably thought it was from a random artists that would never notice the theft, but it ended up being artwork from another AAA game.
The Ellen Page thing is debatable, but this one is imo pretty cut and dry
it's not any more cut & dry than Ellie and Ellen Page IMO but they definitely are super similar and for this type of thing to be questioned twice in the same game is definitely suspect so fair enough.
This is most likely what happened.
I dont think anyone is saying ND as whole is responsible for this, but the guy that was tasked with the job of finding or making the image to put in that frame was definitely responsible and definitely stealing.
Whoever pulled the image might also not have expected that it would be featured prominently in a cutscene.
I agree with your sentiment but being influenced by something is very different than literally stealing art.
Well they say opinions are like ass holes, but mine can't possibly smell this bad.
The Ellen Page thing is debatable, but this one is imo pretty cut and dry
Isn't he actually based off of his voice actor? I think I remember this coming up in the other thread about likenesses.
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