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[Lord of Castamere]

There are no hard sales numbers on Hardline so I don't see how you can make that statement with any confidence, they've only said they were "happy with it's sales".

Yup! Took the words out of my mouth.

Missing the point. This will be there big Fall title coming off of 10mil Battlefront. That is seemingly being given the " 5" monicker. This isn't a Hardline "Eh, throw Battlefield on it and it'll move some copies." This will be their flagship game for the year.

 

[Evolved1]

If this is what they're really doing, then it must have looked and sounded amazing in prototype/pitch for EA to write a check when current BF4 is so successful.

That's no small decision. And approval would have been hardfought I imagine. This isn't "see, fans, we're not so bad" Mirror's Edge getting made. This is cash cow BF4 getting un-made for an unproven alternative at best and "oh god not another WWII shooter" at worst. That WWII burnout was the prevailing sentiment not long ago, and persists even still, as evidenced by posts in this thread.

What I'm saying is if DICE is really doing WWI, that trailer is gonna melt people. It would basically have to, to even exist.

 

[RipperGrim]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges and hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

 

[5taquitos]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

I mean, I'm pretty sure that's blatantly misrepresenting the war too.

 

[John Harker]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges and hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

World War One is more than just trench warfare. Even look at the game Verdun, which was that as a mode.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

WW1 was fought, you know, in the whole world. There are places where trenches didn't prevail. In the alps, for instance, was a particularly gruesome warfare, which had even man made avalanches as weapons.

Besides, towards the end of the conflict, the germans were emploing a brand new concept which envolved small assalt troops as a way to break the deadlock. This, plus the horror that they've felt with the allies' early tanks led to the concept of Blitzkrieg.

And, heck, even in the western front and all those trenches, some operations consisted in a two or three man groups trying to sneak in the no man's land to gather information. This kind of thing had the tendency to make the whole hell break lose as soon as the other side notice something strange.

There are lots of alternatives. The key is big money, big develpment cicle and talented people. After all that, whats left is people who don't know squat about the war saying nonsense.

 

[Lord of Castamere]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

Damn. I just don't understand what EAs thinking, but whatever, bring on the gas and the mustaches.

 

[Riposte]

I want to pointlessly charge machine guns on horseback. Let me die with honor.

 

[-hadouken]

There's simply no way EA would allow a mainline Battlefield title to be set in a time without access to a reasonable array of personal automatic weapons. WWII is iffy - WWI impossible in this day and age.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Im curious to see how this wont end up as Trench: The Game

 

[Evolved1]

I want to pointlessly charge machine guns on horseback. Let me die with honor.

I hope horses control better than their dirtbikes and snowmobiles.

I love DICE but their vehicles (everything not a chopper) controls really poorly. Everything feels like it's magnetically attached to the ground and collision is hilariously bad. Jets don't feel good to fly. Idk it's just weird.

Absolutely love the idea of horses and biplanes, but BF physics and controls, idk. I hope they make changes or they'll be whatever. Even the flight model in Battlefront is that same weird feeling. Idk how DICE makes choppers feel so goddamn awesome (and even armor to some extent) but their planes, bikes, and automobiles are quite poor.

I laugh at the notion of a horse with BF controls and collision.

They won't even have them. I'd bet money. That said, this game will still be awesome. No lock-ons!!!!!

 

[Elixist]

hopefully true. im hella down for a big change up, slower pace

 

[OdysseusVA]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

Oh yea?

 

[Evolved1]

Oh yea?

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.

 

[RoboPlato]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

If this is true I genuinely have no idea how EA greenlit it. DICE must have made a crazy pitch and demo.

Bummer for me since I'm not a fan of that period of weaponry. Hopefully the gameplay is on point.

 

[Trojan]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges and hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

Historical wars in shooters have been misrepresented for years, I'm sure they won't have a problem here.

 

[Pastry]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

What have th teased been? I've been keeping up with BF news and haven't noticed anything.

 

[G_Berry]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

Tell us what you know right now!!!!!

 

[Daingurse]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

Hahaha, Yessss. I really want this.

 

[Mahonay]

The only teases I've seen are Easter eggs in BF4 for a possible sequel to 2142.

Where are these WWI teases you're referring to?

 

[Smokey_Run]

I believe he's talking about his own posts.

 

[Whales]

WWI? Day one buy

I was getting tired of the futuristic settings

 

[RedAssedApe]

circle of life

 

[xamidoxhua]

How the hell can it be a tactical shooter in WW1? It was about suicide charges and hiding in trenches. The only way they can make it work is if they blatantly misrepresent the war.

Yeah my thoughts too. Trench warfare on the European front I wouldn't think translates well into a great gaming experience. The Middle Eastern theatre might provide a better backdrop - there you had more 'running battle' scenarios. I'll wait to see what they come out with but I'm not convinced.

I think personally the Korean or Vietnam wars would be better. They haven't been visited a whole lot in games and Battlefield Vietnam was a great expansion.

 

[the black pearl]

Bring us back to Vietnam

 

[NoPiece]

I don't disagree with you entirely. I just think we're approaching this from different view points, and that's causing the clash. I think a WW1 game done in the vein of classic Battlefield, would be a perfectly doable game and great, but I only think EA would do it if it had a >30$ pricetag. Releasing a WW1 game as a mainline title is a marketing catastrophe.

Is a WW1 game with all of Modern Battlefields trappings possible? Probably, but it would be difficult to make. Completely new assets across the board, new mechanics and balance systems, back to the drawing board of vehicles entirely etc. Why would they do it? What do they gain? If they want to take the game backwards in time to capitalize, there are other wars more fitting. It's not like their options are limited in that respect. It just doesn't make sense.

I agree with all that. I just strongly believe that, as a purely creative question, DICE could execute a great Battlefield experience in the WWI setting. And that WWI had enough interesting weapons, vehicles, locations to support unlocks, and microtransactions (even though I think all shooters would be better off without them). Cost, sales, marketing would all be a huge challenge.

...
I think personally the Korean or Vietnam wars would be better. They haven't been visited a whole lot in games and Battlefield Vietnam was a great expansion.

It is funny that (North) Korea is often used as an enemy state on modern games and movies, but the actual war that took place there is even more ignored than WWI.

 

[Lyonaz]

They better put in a real dino horde mode in this time.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

This means no dinosaur level, doesn't it ):

 

[Draper]

Oh man, awesome, takes me back to that cod game at the launch of the 360.

 

[The Flash]

I'll preorder if I can wear a pickelhaube

 

[Stiler]

Reading the last few pages holy crap, do people really think WWI was like the bloody 1700's or something? Single Shot weapons and crap?

WWI saw one of the GREATEST and quickest technological changes in warfare. From giving a rapid change in airplanes (Hello, ever hear of The Red Baron? What war do you think he fought in???) to bringing about tanks and other vehicles never before seen on the battlefield.

The weapons used were quite varied to, from bolt action rifles (Not single shot, I do not get where people are getting this, I mean the Lee-Enfield .303 and Gewehr 98 were both...) to heavy mg's, light mg's like the Lewis and other things.

Trench warfare was only a part of the war, it wasn't the end-all be all of it and not to mention the sheer variety of where it was fought.

It's like so many people only remember WWII and think everything before that was like Napoleon or something.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Reading the last few pages holy crap, do people really think WWI was like the bloody 1700's or something? Single Shot weapons and crap?

WWI saw one of the GREATEST and quickest technological changes in warfare. From giving a rapid change in airplanes (Hello, ever hear of The Red Baron? What war do you think he fought in???) to bringing about tanks and other vehicles never before seen on the battlefield.

The weapons used were quite varied to, from bolt action rifles (Not single shot, I do not get where people are getting this, I mean the Lee-Enfield .303 and Gewehr 98 were both...) to heavy mg's, light mg's like the Lewis and other things.

Trench warfare was only a part of the war, it wasn't the end-all be all of it and not to mention the sheer variety of where it was fought.

It's like so many people only remember WWII and think everything before that was like Napoleon or something.

From horses to french troops going to the front on bikes.

Would be an awesome campaign if they could give this perspective. I mean, in the first year, some battles were fought on horseback. But things changed rapidly as the war raged on.

And since you brought planes, there were MASSIVE naval engagements, but this I really don't see coming into a FPS about the war.

(unfortunately, since Jutland would be an epic experience).

And to all the naysayers, even if a WWI scenario would be hard to make as a game (it's not for whoever has the money to do it), they could create some agent/soldier perspective, like we had in the first Medal of Honor, for instance.

 

[5taquitos]

From horses to french troops going to the front on bikes.

Would be an awesome campaign if they could give this perspective. I mean, in the first year, some battles were fought on horseback. But things changed rapidly as the war raged on.

And since you brought planes, there were MASSIVE naval engagements, but this I really don't see coming into a FPS about the war.

(unfortunately, since Jutland would be an epic experience).

And to all the naysayers, even if a WWI scenario would be hard to make as a game (it's not for whoever has the money to do it), they could create some agent/soldier perspective, like we had in the first Medal of Honor, for instance.

While DICE will surely get the spectacle down, I highly doubt they'll be able to craft an engaging campaign.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

While DICE will surely get the spectacle down, I highly doubt they'll be able to craft an engaging campaign.

I know, a good single player campaign may be asking too much from them.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

I hope people are checking your post history, I totally want to know about those hints!

I can't believe we're getting a WWI shooter.

EDIT: Oh right, I forgot DICE can't do a good campaign anymore. Shit.

 

[Mad Season]

No way to
Monetize with a ww1 game. Won't happen

 

[Silent Hill]

Please be true. WW1/2 and I'm there day 1.

 

[Triscuitable]

If it is, I'm not buying it; no way the Battlefield series can translate well to trench warfare without a dramatic overhaul of the series' core mechanics. Go buy Verdun if that's what you want.

 

[eifer]

There's no way it'll be WWI. Besides, this is based off of some early listing off of a German retailer? Uhh, ok.

 

[PurpleSquid]

i want full building destructibility like bad company 2. this is the main thing i want besides the obvious; please be fun.

 

[Violater]

Do not want.
No going back to the past for me.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

been under the table directionally teasing this game for like a year, i don't think anyone picked up on any of it haha

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

[WillyFive]

I think playing this could be really cool; it would be a whole new kind of Rush mode.

 

[web01]

The most popular maps in BF4 and 3 are Metro and Locker. Infantry based maps without vehicles.
You have intense fire fights with a large number of players in small quarters.
It is not hard to imagine trench warfare maps that capture this type of gameplay that is so popular.

 

[Trace]

Day Zero if true.

 

[WillyFive]

If it is, I'm not buying it; no way the Battlefield series can translate well to trench warfare without a dramatic overhaul of the series' core mechanics. Go buy Verdun if that's what you want.

.....have you played BF3 and 4?

The most popular map of each game are literally all trench and chokepoint warfare.

 

[The Goat]

I would be severely disappointed if this were true. Something about WW1 and 2 weapons never feel right to me.

 

[mikezilla2]

what 3rd or first person WWI games have we had post PS1 era ?

i think this could be interesting tho given its not WWII

 

[DukeLongfellow]

If this is true, I have found my first Battlefield game. I don't play shooters at all mostly, especially those with multi emphasis (Battlefront is the exception) but give me a setting that interests me and I will devour it.