The Amount of Hillary Hate Scares Me

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I'm a Bernie fan, myself. But the amount of die-hard Bernie fans that have an amazing amount of hatred for Hillary is astounding. They go so far as to say that she's just as bad as Trump. If Bernie doesn't win the primaries, they plan on writing in his name in the general election or simply not voting at all. That makes us much more likely to have a republican president. The hatred for her is what makes me scared that we'll have Cruz, Trump, or Rubio as president.

I may not love Hillary, but I do NOT want a republican president, and I feel that anyone who's liberal should feel the same way. Why all the Hillary hate all of the sudden? I see so much anti-Hillary propaganda from liberals all over social media. Even in conversations, they shit on her so much. I know she's not going to crack down on Wall Street, I know she's not anti-establishment like Bernie, I know she's not a progressive. But the fact of the matter is that we CANNOT have a republican in the White House.
 
I really feel it is a super vocal minority that is trying to make Hillary look worse to encourage more people to vote for Bernie. In the end, I think the majority of Bernie bros (including me) will vote for Hilldawg.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I'm right with you. Hilary isn't my ideal candidate but she doesn't terrify me to the core like the Republican possibilities.
 

Tabris

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Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US (and in a safe position not susceptible to ebb and flow of deregulated Wall Street) and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.
 

atr0cious

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Bernie and his campaign have been effectively painting Hillary as one of the bad guys, so some supporters will see themselves as being absolved when shit goes bad. I now have two co-workers who have talked about this, in the East Bay, CA.
 

ColdPizza

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But the fact of the matter is that we CANNOT have a republican in the White House.

This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

I see the same rhetoric elsewhere. "A Democrat CANNOT win", as if their freedoms will be in jeopardy. The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
How many ardent Hillary supporters didn't vote for Obama and/or for McCain? I'd imagine very few. After the general election ramps up, they'll come around.
 

ShOcKwAvE

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There was a huge schism between Hillary and Barack during their primary, and a lot of nasty stuff said. Eventually it calmed down and everyone united...I expect that to happen again.
 
I really feel it is a super vocal minority that is trying to make Hillary look worse to encourage more people to vote for Bernie. In the end, I think the majority of Bernie bros (including me) will vote for Hilldawg.
Wait. I thought Bernie Bros was a slur, and Hilldawgs was turned to Hilary Bros? It's all very confusing..😟
 

BigDug13

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Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.

And the alternative to Hillary if she is the winner of the Democratic primary will be who? Trump? Cruz? Rubio? The people saying they will vote for Trump if Sanders doesn't win the primary. I think those people are more dangerous than those people you're attempting to slam who will vote for Hillary.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
Writing Bernie in for the general is superior to not voting at all because at least then they'll have down ticket votes cast as well.
 
This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

I see the same rhetoric elsewhere. "A Democrat CANNOT win", as if their freedoms will be in jeopardy. The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.

You are seeing this rhetoric because control of the Supreme Court is up for grabs in a big way this cycle. That's why it's so important, for both sides.
 

Aureon

Please do not let me serve on a jury. I am actually a crazy person.
This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

I see the same rhetoric elsewhere. "A Democrat CANNOT win", as if their freedoms will be in jeopardy. The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.

Matter of fact is, if Obama wasn't the president in the last 8 years, gay marriage wouldn't have happened, for one.
It's not that catastrophic, but acting like it doesn't matter is even worse than over-emphasizing.
 

NIGHT-

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Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.

Yep!
 

Trouble

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The same thing happened in '08 with die-hard Hillary supporters saying they would vote McCain or not at all (see Hillaryis44.com). It turned out to be a non-issue. I feel the same will be the case this time. The vast majority of Bernie supporters will suck it up and vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination.
 
I really feel it is a super vocal minority that is trying to make Hillary look worse to encourage more people to vote for Bernie. In the end, I think the majority of Bernie bros (including me) will vote for Hilldawg.

Yeah, it's really just a small contingent being very loud on their platform of choice. In reality, most Sanders voters are fine with voting HIllary - at a rate that is actually higher than the number of 2008 Clinton voters willing to vote Obama.
 

entremet

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It's politics. It's ugly.

How long have you been following Presidential elections? This is nothing in comparison to previous campaigns.
 
I'd imagine most will come around once we're closer to the general election and the possibility of a President Trump becomes more real by the day.
 

maxcriden

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This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

I see the same rhetoric elsewhere. "A Democrat CANNOT win", as if their freedoms will be in jeopardy. The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.

If one of the two leading Republicans wins, and we continue to have a Republican-controlled Congress, Obamacare will be repealed, xenophobia will be the policymaker of the day, Medicare will shrink, social welfare nets will retract, and a woman's right to choose will involve coat hangers again. So yeah. Seems pretty bad.
 

atr0cious

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This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

I see the same rhetoric elsewhere. "A Democrat CANNOT win", as if their freedoms will be in jeopardy. The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.

The is the mentality I'm talking about. When people are literally having rights withheld because of whatever, but it doesn't affect some, so they don't give a shit.
 

Trouble

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Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US (and in a safe position not susceptible to ebb and flow of deregulated Wall Street) and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.

What is this bullshit? It's entirely possible to be a Hillary supporter and not be a poor-hating monster. You are basically making OP's point with this tripe.
 
Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US (and in a safe position not susceptible to ebb and flow of deregulated Wall Street) and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.

The number one strategy of baby communists in training is twisting the argument so when you disagree with it, it makes you the bad guy
 

jwhit28

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I think it will be fine as long as Bernie endorses Hilary, and Hilary talks about what she learned from Bernie's campaign.
 
The whole thing is just ridiculous to me. Nothing will really happen except some money will shift elsewhere and some freedoms we enjoy (both liberal and conservative) will be eroded in the name of safety.

A republican president with a republican majority congress? A lot of damage can be done. And don't forget about SCOTUS.
 

adj_noun

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This is actually an opinion of the matter. Do you think we are going to all of a sudden return to the dark ages if a Republican wins?

In that there will be a regression movement? Kinda.

Let's put it this way: that's a scenario I'm more than happy to keep safely tucked away in the realm of future speculative fiction authors to suss out.
 

Kibbles

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Edit: okay people don't care to help and resort to insults so never mind.


Anyway I'm just voting for any Democrat is better than the republicans, though Id much prefer Bernie, that doesn't seem to be happening.
 

foxtrot3d

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Hillary is what is wrong with American politics. I also think Obama was weak too. You've had weak politicians bowing down to big money interests for the last 3 decades in the US. Which has led to the decline of your country for the average citizen.

One day I hope to have my southern brothers join the rest of the modern western world in our "socialist" quality of life. But it won't be through someone like Hillary.

If your income is above the median income in the US (and in a safe position not susceptible to ebb and flow of deregulated Wall Street) and you're selfish by not caring for the rest of your fellow Americans - ignore everything I just said because your lifestyle is great and Hillary is a great choice for you.

That's cool and all but this is America not Canada, we have different interests.

I don't get why minorities overwhelmingly support Hilary. Bernie seems a lot more invested in minorities, hell he participated in civil rights marches

Is this a troll post?
 

atr0cious

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I like Hilldawgs, because I imaging a pack of wild dogs roaming through hills somewhere..or something.

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I'm gonna make them Bernie bros squeal real good!

I don't get why minorities overwhelmingly support Hilary. Bernie seems a lot more invested in minorities, hell he participated in civil rights marches

Welp, thread ended quick.
 

ColdPizza

Banned
A republican president with a republican majority congress? A lot of damage can be done. And don't forget about SCOTUS.

Then this is a problem amongst Democratic voters. If they overwhelmingly voted in Obama but then neglected senate and congress then some voter education is in order. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Then this is a problem amongst Democratic voters. If they overwhelmingly voted in Obama but then neglected senate and congress then some voter education is in order. Wouldn't you agree?

Democrat voters didn't give a shit about mid terms elections and basically rendered their presidential vote useless
 
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