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[Head of Vengarl]

I feel like some of you guys missed the Bush presidency. If you can survive that, you can survive President Trump.

U.S. casualties from the Iraq War:
4,491 killed
32,226+ wounded

Thousands of Americans didn't survive the Bush presidency. Those deaths are directly attributable to Bush and his people.

Not to mention, Bush was a national embarrassment. Dude was constantly making an ass of himself in front of the world.

That all being said, I'm not too worried. Trump will not win a general election.

 

[teruterubozu]

I'm more terrified of all the presidential elections going forward. This one has been a complete shitshow and I think it's only going to get worse now that the whole process has been exposed as a fucking joke. Trump is just the beginning.

 

[mxgt]

I don't live in the USA (I'll be there this October for 8 months tho), so there is one thing I don't understand.
I think I've never read someone saying something nice about him. From here (France) he is just a crazy guy (from what I read/saw).

So, why is he winning ?

He has a strong, no nonsense personality and says things a lot of people want to hear.

 

[Palculator]

Not to mention, Bush was a national embarrassment. Dude was constantly making an ass of himself in front of the world.

Yeah, that made it super fun from the outside. You could have a new thing to laugh at every morning.

 

[ItWillGetBetter]

http://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/

He seems to have only been able to make a TV show, and luxury hotels/places to live.

Every other venture was a bust. so....
Yeah I don't think he really has an ability to successfully run something. I think, and this is pure ignorant speculation, that anyone with half a brain and a couple million given from daddy. Could make a successful hotel. All you need is location, good service, and decent prices. So ...

Yeah he's nothing special. Just loud and born lucky.


Now, bad president? Eh. Probably. But something to be scared about? No way.

 

[Hypron]

Not to mention, Bush was a national embarrassment. Dude was constantly making an ass of himself in front of the world.

Yeah. Obama improved the US' international image a hundredfold in comparison to Bush.

 

[Rentahamster]

Eh, he's not scary. None of the presidential candidates are scary. That's affording them too much credit and power than they'll actually have.

From the other side of the fence, the opposing team tends to seem like the antichrist.

A Cruz presidency is scarier to me.

If, for whatever reason I had to pick between the two, yeah I'd prefer Trump over Cruz. Trump is probably much more averse to starting wars (although he wants a big military) than Cruz, and Trump is also probably not very religious at all.

 

[ClosingADoor]

I'm sure you'll survive. And maybe next time they can find some normal people to run. Although the Republican record for that is more and more terrible every time.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

I feel like we need an updated version of the Matt Damon / Sarah Palin video for Trump. It is pretty much how I feel about the whole thing right now.

Damon/Palin video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk

Damon must get a kick out of that video now, considering how much crazier things keep getting.

 

[Sesto]

holy cow, the Hillary hate is real.

it's justified after messing up the middle east, in which Hillary was involved. That woman is evil and I'm still trying to figure out what her program as the president would be. She seems to make a lot of publicity to please every minority in the US, but her goals and tasks are vague or nonexistent.
I don't fully support Trump either but I want to conduct a healthy discussion on this heavily Hillary biased forum. Up until now Trump has created a lot of good for the US, without beeing a politican, what did Hillary do?

 

[Puppet Shadow]

If, for whatever reason I had to pick between the two, yeah I'd prefer Trump over Cruz. Trump is probably much more averse to starting wars (although he wants a big military) than Cruz, and Trump is also probably not very religious at all.

Cruz reminds me of Martin Sheen from the Dead Zone, pushing that nuke button to fulfill God's plan.

 

[SolidusDave]

Yeah. Obama improved the US' international image a hundredfold in comparison to Bush.

Media and people in many countries were ecstatic that Obama won, if only because it meant no more republican idiots.

 

[MrCunningham]

I'm terrified of both Hillary and Trump.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

He's not going to win, yea there's a lot of shit heads out there(and here) who support him but it won't be enough.

 

[Stereogatari]

We have a bunch of checks and balances to keep it from getting out of hand. I would be more concerned about his supports and the fact they exist

Checks and balances domestically. Foreign policy will be no holds barred though.

 

[Ravensmash]

Isn't it likely that he'd actually get very little done because of the political opposition against him?

I'm not American so I don't know the specifics, but if the elected establishment hate him then nothing too extreme will go through on either side?

On the subject of nuclear weapons - the US has a two-man procedure right? Which means that even if he did authorise launch, someone on the other end could decline it (likely resulting in craziness but still...)

 

[ClosingADoor]

Checks and balances domestically. Foreign policy will be no holds barred though.

Sure, but for things like signing deals, military operations and an actual war Congress votes on it right? Not American, so I don't know the exact process.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

We have a bunch of checks and balances to keep it from getting out of hand. I would be more concerned about his supports and the fact they exist

If he became president he may have the opportunity to pack the Supreme Court.

 

[watershed]

it's justified after messing up the middle east, in which Hillary was involved. That woman is evil and I'm still trying to figure out what her program as the president would be. She seems to make a lot of publicity to please every minority in the US, but her goals and tasks are vague or nonexistent.
I don't fully support Trump either but I want to conduct a healthy discussion on this heavily Hillary biased forum. Up until now Trump has created a lot of good for the US, without beeing a politican, what did Hillary do?

Evil? Really? And if you want to know her positions or her policy proposals you could always look at her platform or look up her votes in the senate of past statements all of which are pretty available considering she has been in national politics in some form or another for the last 3 decades.

What "a lot of good for the US" has Trump done?

 

[Ihyll]

it's justified after messing up the middle east, in which Hillary was involved. That woman is evil and I'm still trying to figure out what her program as the president would be. She seems to make a lot of publicity to please every minority in the US, but her goals and tasks are vague or nonexistent.
I don't fully support Trump either but I want to conduct a healthy discussion on this heavily Hillary biased forum. Up until now Trump has created a lot of good for the US, without beeing a politican, what did Hillary do?

Why are you brushing aside all of the people that Trump has scammed? Does Trump university not count? His ties to NYC mob families? Multiple bankruptcies? Trump has a lot of skeletons in his closet

 

[Mupod]

As a Canadian I want Trump to win just for the insane hilarity it will bring.

on the one hand I think about how it'd be funny and not my problem but it would be kind of the whole world's problem.

but hey when all of GAF moves to Canada to escape Trump they can come to toronto-gaf meetups, play monster hunter and get fucked up on Soju with us.

 

[ClosingADoor]

If he became president he may have the opportunity to pack the Supreme Court.

Otherwise it would be Rubio or Cruz there if the Republicans win. Don't know if that's better. The party just seems crazy all around.

 

[Lan Dong Mik]

He is absolutely not going to be the next President. Won't happen, will not ever happen. Nothing to be afraid of.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Why are you brushing aside all of the people that Trump has scammed? Does Trump university not count? His ties to NYC mob families? Multiple bankruptcies? Trump has a lot of skeletons in his closet

Fighting the "my candidate is less evil than yours" battle is an argument you will lose by winning. I'm just saying.

 

[trilobyte]

A person with

- The lust for power
- The lack of knowledge and/or respect for the law
- The support of a large, vocal, and perhaps volatile population

....can indeed lead to lasting disastrous results. There are too many examples in history where 'stable' systems of government had been tested and failed under such scenarios.

It's dangerous to think that the American political system so 'rock solid' with its checks & balances that it is an exception.

 

[adj_noun]

If Trump becomes President I'm more worried about airline safety with all the newly airborne porcine beasts fluttering around.

 

[MechaX]

Foreign Policy is going to be an absolute shit show, but checks and balances will probably make it so he won't get shit accomplished no matter how much he says he will get shit accomplished. Societal ramifications would be huge, though.

With that said, as a minority, I'm not really seeing a reason why I should vote for him.

 

[Ganzlinger]

It will be fine, guys. Trump isn't crazy.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

It will be fine, guys. Trump isn't crazy.

No, just stupid, hollow, and easily manipulated

 

[emag]

There is a german proverb that goes like this: Barking dogs never bite.

.

 

[n0razi]

If Americans elect him to power, then he's not the problem

 

[BearFlexington]

As someone who used to feign support for Trump, I find this whole thing scary and at the same time fascinating. While Trump's seemingly unstoppable rise in the Republican party is certainly something someone with liberal sensibilities should find disturbing, it's also fascinating. It is fascinating in the sense that it exposes some serious flaws in our electoral process. Namely:

- How a person of dubious political qualification could outshine the Republican frontrunners, relying almost exclusively on rhetoric and posturing.

- How the two party system has left the country with extremes as candidates and zero viable moderate candidates or candidates with new or fresh approaches to government.

- How money continues to choose our candidates for us.

My hope is that win, lose, or lawsuit, this charade wakes people on both sides of aisle the fuck up.

 

[OldGangWarily]

As someone who got naturalized to be an U.S. citizen recently (as in...literally two days ago), there is a reason why things such as checks and balances and rule of the law exists. I doubt Trump can't do most of the shit he says he's going to do.

Especially that "Nobody says no to me when I tell them to do something. If I say do it, they do it" thing that was a topic of another thread in here.

 

[family_guy]

Go cold turkey and stop watching all news coverage for awhile. The odds of a trump presidency are so crazy low you shouldn't let it affect your mental health. Trump and the News Media are both trying to get as many people to watch him as possible and it is creating a really gross environment.

I wouldn't be so sure. Bush got elected twice.

 

[Team Alucard]

I wouldn't be so sure. Bush got elected twice.

Bush got elected once.

 

[HUELEN10]

A Cruz presidency is scarier to me.

I Can't disagree on that one!

 

[Steel]

A Cruz presidency is scarier to me.

I'm not sure you'll get much disagreement.

 

[Kusagari]

I don't live in the USA (I'll be there this October for 8 months tho), so there is one thing I don't understand.
I think I've never read someone saying something nice about him. From here (France) he is just a crazy guy (from what I read/saw).

So, why is he winning ?

He's winning for the same reason the National Front is having such success in your country.

 

[shintoki]

Nothing would happen.... Trump would have zero support in congress and most likely impeached in a year. He is the only one you don't need to worry about

 

[Insane Metal]

Don't worry, you'll get used to it.

 

[family_guy]

Bush got elected once.

George W Bush? President from 2001 - 2009.

 

[Haunted]

He's the new Sarah Palin. A complete joke outside of the US, with frightening consequences if voted into office, and the mere fact that Palin and Trump even got this far in the process throws some heavy fucking implications on the state of US voters (society?)


make America a laughingstock again

 

[Ekdrm2d1]

I'm terrified of the proposed wall.

There is no way we can actually have his wall be built..

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Hopefully people get over their misgivings about Hillary and vote for her in November.

.

Regardless of who the Dem Nom is, I will vote for that one.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Quit comparing the bush thing. This would be the first time in our history, that a reality tv show star became the leader of the free world. Think about that.

 

[Mindlog]

Stop reacting.
Act.

Vote.
Get your friends to vote.

 

[Ryouji Gunblade]

He had to reconsider killing reporters even for an instant? This stuff should never fly for a candidate.

 

[Team Alucard]

George W Bush? President from 2001 - 2009.

Bush wasn't elected in 2000. The Supreme Court handed him the presidency in the most blatantly partisan decision ever.

 

[ColdPizza]

Just the fact that Trump got this far is an indictment of our current political picture and how the people feel about it.

 

[Oersted]

U.S. casualties from the Iraq War:
4,491 killed
32,226+ wounded

Thousands of Americans didn't survive the Bush presidency. Those deaths are directly attributable to Bush and his people.

Not to mention, Bush was a national embarrassment. Dude was constantly making an ass of himself in front of the world.

That all being said, I'm not too worried. Trump will not win a general election.

He brought suffering, thats a little bit tougher than embarassment.