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Ghostbusters (2016) Trailer #1 (Feig, Wiig, McCarthy, McKinnon, Jones)

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Patty is "The Finn" of Ghostbusters now!

No skills, talent, intelligence, etc.

"But she's brave/street smart/funny! She's the audience surrogate! She's the normal one we relate to!"

Okay.

At least they're upfront about it. No bait-and-switch.

*Sigh* They're never going to get it right. Black characters are always going to have caveats.
 
Patty is "The Finn" of Ghostbusters now!

No skills, talent, intelligence, etc.

"But she's brave/street smart/funny!"

At least they're upfront about it. No bait-and-switch.

*Sigh* They're never going to get it right. Black characters are always going to have caveats.

Finn has talent. Best aim in the Star Wars universe having never missed a shot. Given the information about the character contained in the books, I imagine that was intentional. Hopefully they explore this deeper in the next film.
 
Finn has talent. Best aim in the Star Wars universe having never missed a shot. Given the information about the character contained in the books, I imagine that was intentional. Hopefully they explore this deeper in the next film.

Also he was able to held himself with a lightsaber with no training nor sensitivity to the force.
 
Looks like a fun popcorn film

Mckinnon seems like she might make this movie. Despite having little screen time in the trailer, she pops out compared to the rest of the cast.

Aside from that, I agree with Adder on alot of points. On top of that, I'm also disappointed they couldn't have other minorities, I'd love to see an asian or latino be part of the crew(Although I imagine they would be shoehorned into a stereotypes like Jones...).

The humor also seems alot different from the originals, but I'm fine with that. I mean...it's not the same movie nor should it be held up to the standards of the original because it is neither a continuation nor is it made by the same people. Same by name and concept sure, but people should wait until it's out to judge it on the merits it has, not on the merits we project onto it.
 
Is somebody actually playing the sexist card on the dislikes on the trailer? what a joke, a better joke than the ones on that trailer in fact.

Well, it's not a stretch to say a lot of those dislikes are due to sexism. I mean, hell, go on social media and read the comments on this film.

Drop Wiig. McKinnon plays twins one brilliant engineer and one blue collar. Jones takes Wiig's spot.

Boom.

I want this now, but I know it would not execute.
 
Also he was able to held himself with a lightsaber with no training nor sensitivity to the force.

He probably had melee training ala TR8R. The most special thing about Finn is his courage, dude's the only stormtrooper defector. Finn's got balls the size of Death Stars
 
Finn has talent. Best aim in the Star Wars universe having never missed a shot. Given the information about the character contained in the books, I imagine that was intentional. Hopefully they explore this deeper in the next film.

I agree with your critiques of Patty, I saw many of the same things in Finn (Including, the promotion as a socially responsible work, while maintaining a very problematic black character) But I don't want to veer too deeply into it (I've argued this point more than enough and this isn't a SW topic). I'll just agree to disagree.

"Aw Hell Naw!" ...jesus.

Only thing I like is the visual quality. Looks like a very pretty film. Although, I can understand why some would have preferred a more dirty/grounded look like the first movies.
 
Just got done watching the first movie

Should I watch Ghostbusters 2 no or maybe?

Ghostbusters 2 is pretty derivative of the first movie but it has plenty of enjoyable and funny moments. If you liked the first one you should watch then second.

Then move on to the Ghostbusters video game.

Then the IDW comic series.
 
Not even going to lie I think McKinnon is going to have a huge career in comedy. she fits the ghostbusters universe perfectly as well IMO, she was the best bit of casting for this movie.

I like all the actresses, Jones is funny and has good range, Melissa is the least funny in my opinion but still she has her moments and I find her to be a good actress even with the more serious stuff and I think Wiig is hilarious. her role in Paul was immense I really haven't seen a movie with her in that I can say I dislike tbh.

This is what makes me angry more than anything though, you have these talented and funny actresses and then they are just put inside what seems to be (based on the trailer) a poorly written typical Hollywood modern day comedy with no heart or creativity.

I know Paul Feig's work too well to judge the quality of the writing and potential lack of heart/creativity on this meh trailer.

Heat and Spy (and even Bridesmaids which I didn't love for reasons that hit too close to home for me) and going all the way back to Freaks and Geeks make me have a lot of confidence in what he can create.

I fully believe this trailer is Sony's failing not Feig's

We'll see.


Fully agreed on Mckinnon. She's going to be a star.
 
I just laugh at the idea that this movie is somehow breaking the mold because the main characters are female when it's clearly isn't.

It's clearly obvious that Sony is chasing after Bridemaid money but think that Bridemaid was only successful because the cast were females and judging by the trailers it doesn't feel like a ghostbuster movie nor is it making me want to watch it as I feel that the movie isn't aimed at me.

I'm less bothered by the one black person as much as I'm bothered that her "talent" she brings to the group is that....she knows New York City and can borrow a car from her uncle.

Gotta make sure that your stereotypical token character never outshine the main characters that just happens to be white.

I fucking hate token characters, just so backwards and just ends up creating a one note character who only trait is the fact that they are not white. ¬_¬;
 
I would bet that about 35-40% of the dislikes are Red Pill/MRA-types, 25-30% are people who would hate absolutely any Ghostbusters reboot and recast, hard or soft, and the rest are people reacting to just how shitty the trailer is. Because it's a really, really shitty trailer, pretty much exactly what I'd expect the movie to look like if it were starring the cast and helmed by the creative team of Pixels. Maybe a hair or two better than that, but not much.

Also, Jesus Christ at Leslie Jones' character. Somebody should have switched McCarthy and Jones' roles, so that at least the character would just be an annoying stereotype, instead of a racist one, to boot.
 
I just laugh at the idea that this movie is somehow breaking the mold because the main characters are female when it's clearly isn't.

It's clearly obvious that Sony is chasing after Bridemaid money but think that Bridemaid was only successful because the cast were females and judging by the trailers it doesn't feel like a ghostbuster movie nor is it making me want to watch it as I feel that the movie isn't aimed at me.

It was Feig's idea not Sony's he came to them with the concept.

And who do you think the movie is aimed at for curiosity.


Gotta make sure that your stereotypical token character never outshine the main characters that just happens to be white.

I fucking hate token characters, just so backwards and just ends up creating a one note character who only trait is the fact that they are not white. ¬_¬;

I actually think Jones, stereotypes aside, was the second best thing in the trailer. Her and McKinnon are gonna carry this thing.
 
One thing that confuses me slightly. People who love GB2 (or at least like it) as I do, turning around and bashing this movie for its comedy style when GB2's comedy style was SO unlike the original that it can take you out of the movie if you're not ready for it.

GB2 is louder, it's flashier, it has actual written jokes and gags that aren't deadpan improv like a good bit of Murray in the original GB.

It has what you could essentially call skits in it. In every way, it is a modern movie but with whatever pop culture humor was the style of the time.

It's pretty much the exact same style of movie, based on the trailer of GB16. At least in my view.

I like GB2 more than GB
 
pretty disappointing but I'm hoping its just one of those things like with spy where i thought the trailers were terrible and turned out to be a lot of fun
 
Didn't give a great first impression. Not a dumpster fire or anything, but nothing too promising. Kate McKinnon's doing her cartoon character thing. Leslie Jones seems pretty lazily used. I like Wiig/McCarthy and they've got a good track record with Feig, but nothing here sold me on either of them.

The big worry is that it feels like they're going super-goofy with this, but I'm hoping (and kind of assuming) a lot of that is just the packaging of the trailer. Ghostbusters is a goofy enough concept on its own that it seems like you'd want to go the route of the original and balance that with actors/characters who are really good at being the straight-man in any given scene. Really ridiculous characters reacting to really ridiculous stuff can get exhausting after a while. This trailer was two and a half minutes long and managed to get exhausting after a while.

Wonder how much of a role Cecily Strong ends up having, and tbh I'm still kind of surprised she's not a lead. Like if I"m looking at women on SNL as counterparts to the original Ghostbusters the first thing that jumps out to me is that she's filling that same super-versatile straight-man role that started with Aykroyd.
 
Yup, one of those run of the mill 150 million dollar cashgrabs

They're thinking big for the franchise. Real big.

The awful comedy attempts in the trailer and the inclusion of Slimer to utilize the nostalgia for the original movies seem like a fairly blatant attempt at a cashgrab to me.

Unless the movie is vastly much better than the trailer I frankly hope it bombs and they won't attempt anymore reboots or sequels and just let comics and videogames make use of the IP.
 
The awful comedy attempts in the trailer and the inclusion of Slimer to utilize the nostalgia for the original movies seem like a fairly blatant attempt at a cashgrab to me.

Unless the movie is vastly much better than the trailer I frankly hope it bombs and they won't attempt anymore reboots or sequels and just let comics and videogames make use of the IP.

Slimer's as close to a mascot as the IP gets, he was always going to make some appearance.

You know the whole Cinematic Universe kick everyone is on? Sony's been setting up a Ghostbusters one for a while. If this happens, there's a few scripts out there to expand everything.

If this thing bombs, you won't see comics or games for a long, long time. They will kill the IP stone dead and bury it. It's all or nothing here.
 
Absolute huge fan of the original movie and this looked...... Great! Will be there day one. Good SFX and liked the humor. Can't wait!
 
Just got done watching the first movie

Should I watch Ghostbusters 2 no or maybe?
GB2 gets a lot of hate because it's not as good as the first and follows like the exact same story progression beat for beat, but it's a disservice to yourself to not watch it, especially if you liked the first one. Over-all it might not be better but there are some really exceptional scenes and one-liners in it that are too good to just pass up.

Afterwards:
Ghostbusters 2 is pretty derivative of the first movie but it has plenty of enjoyable and funny moments. If you liked the first one you should watch then second.

Then move on to the Ghostbusters video game.

Then the IDW comic series.
do this. Either play the game or watch walkthroughs because it is the official third entry in the Ghostbusters franchise. The IDW comics aren't official canon but they're as close as we'll ever get at this point, and they are EXTREMELY good. Who knows how Feig's vision will turn out but if people were having trouble coming up with a way to continue the story in the preexisting GB universe they should have just given the movie to the guys who write the comics because they really, really fuckin get it.
 
If this thing bombs, you won't see comics or games for a long, long time. They will kill the IP stone dead and bury it. It's all or nothing here.

I dunno. I could see Sony being stupid enough come out a year or two later and say "JK, we're making one with dudes", and be certain to emphasize it over and over.

Because yes, Sony Pictures can be that dumb sometimes.
 
I dunno. I could see Sony being stupid enough come out a year or two later and say "JK, we're making one with dudes", and be certain to emphasize it over and over.

Because yes, Sony Pictures can be that dumb sometimes.

I could see that too, but not in a year or two. Maybe like 5-6 years from now.
 
Slimer's as close to a mascot as the IP gets, he was always going to make some appearance.

You know the whole Cinematic Universe kick everyone is on? Sony's been setting up a Ghostbusters one for a while. If this happens, there's a few scripts out there to expand everything.

If this thing bombs, you won't see comics or games for a long, long time. They will kill the IP stone dead and bury it. It's all or nothing here.

IF the movie turns out to be a complete shitshow (and possibly a bomb).. Well, I'd rather have no more Ghostbusters besides the old movies + the PCS360 game than more shitty Ghostbusters.
 
One thing that confuses me slightly. People who love GB2 (or at least like it) as I do, turning around and bashing this movie for its comedy style when GB2's comedy style was SO unlike the original that it can take you out of the movie if you're not ready for it.

GB2 is louder, it's flashier, it has actual written jokes and gags that aren't deadpan improv like a good bit of Murray in the original GB.

It has what you could essentially call skits in it. In every way, it is a modern movie but with whatever pop culture humor was the style of the time.

It's pretty much the exact same style of movie, based on the trailer of GB16. At least in my view.

I like GB2 more than GB

I think the biggest problem that most people have with Ghostbusters 2 is that it is almost a beat for beat remake of the first movie. The movie follows the same story structure and even places many of the same characters in the same situations. It doesn't quite stand up on its own without aping the original movie. But with that said, it still did have some original ideas with the mood slime concept, the New Years/ end of the '80s story line and the concentrated bitterness of the entire City of New York, which was kinda a real thing in the '80s.

The characters are reintroduced in reverse with Winston being the first Ghostbuster to appear into the movie. I did also like the "where are they now" segment at the beginning with Peter being a talk show host and Egon doing his weird ass science experiments. I kinda wish there was more of that, but I feel like those elements were dropped so quickly and forgotten. The villain wasn't bad and Janosz had his moments. But the movie wasn't as character driven as what it could have been. The first one did this so much better. The ending was a little too abrupt as well.

As for the humor in the first movie, outside of Bill Murray's improvised comedy, it was pretty well scripted. I think Bill Murray was the only one that was really allowed to go off the rails while everyone else stayed close to the script. In Ghostbusters II, you can tell that Murray didn't really want to be there, think about how many times he wasn't suited up as a Ghostbuster. I could only imagine that they were betting that he would perform his magic like in the first movie, but he wasn't really there playing ball with them.

Ghostbusters 1 did have a less structured comedic style though, with less set up and pay off jokes. But I felt that this also helped create a believable world. Also, the characters didn't have any recognizable story arcs, which made them feel a little more grounded to me as well.

They were also playing up a little more to the cartoon series, with Janine being more like her cartoon character and there was a bit of a forced love story with Luis Tully... though I did find that element to be amusing anyway. Slimer was originally planned to have a more prominent role in Ghostbusters 2 and there was a whole subplot that was cut out of the movie that features Luis Tully trying to capture Slimer in the firehouse, he later gives up and befriends the ghost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7UnFx6OLVs . This leads into the scene with Slimer driving a Bus with Louis responding with "you again?" .

To be honest, GB2 is not a terrible movie, but it does live under the shadow of the original. If you are in the mood for more Ghostbusters, I would still recommend it, I suppose.
 
I dunno. I could see Sony being stupid enough come out a year or two later and say "JK, we're making one with dudes", and be certain to emphasize it over and over.

Because yes, Sony Pictures can be that dumb sometimes.

They are the ones who want to make Venom a thing, so I could totally see them doing some weird shit like that. But smart money is on them binning it for good.

IF the movie turns out to be a complete shitshow (and possibly a bomb).. Well, I'd rather have no more Ghostbusters besides the old movies + the PCS360 game than more shitty Ghostbusters.

I shouldn't have to point out how selfish this is, especially since Aykroyd's wanted to make a lot more Ghostbusters for a long, long time
 
Slimer's as close to a mascot as the IP gets, he was always going to make some appearance.

You know the whole Cinematic Universe kick everyone is on? Sony's been setting up a Ghostbusters one for a while. If this happens, there's a few scripts out there to expand everything.

If this thing bombs, you won't see comics or games for a long, long time. They will kill the IP stone dead and bury it. It's all or nothing here.

Please no, not the comics. Please let the IDW comics continue. They are so good and I already lost them once and now they're back, I don't want to lose them again just because their reboot doesn't do well. They shouldn't let it crater the originals like that. That's like the exact thing people fuss about with like "oh man my childhood" "shut up at least you have the originals" noooooooooo
 
I shouldn't have to point out how selfish this is, especially since Akroyd's wanted to make a lot more Ghostbusters for a long, long time

Aykroyd's not doing much more than a cameo at best in the movie, and Murray doesn't really want to do more Ghostbusters, so it doesn't really matter much to me.
 
Please no, not the comics. Please let the IDW comics continue. They are so good and I already lost them once and now they're back, I don't want to lose them again just because their reboot doesn't do well. They shouldn't let it crater the originals like that. That's like the exact thing people fuss about with like "oh man my childhood" "shut up at least you have the originals" noooooooooo

We both know how this works, man. They'll scorched earth everything and maybe revisit it later.

Aykroyd's not doing much more than a cameo at best in the movie, and Murray doesn't really want to do more Ghostbusters, so it doesn't really matter much to me.

This is a bit old, but here: Ivan Reitman and Dan Aykroyd set up a Ghostbusters production company.

In this movie, it's a cameo. But there's a lot of shit at play right now.
 
Ehhh not feeling it. Barely smiled during the trailer, didn't even laugh, and aren't the best jokes typically in trailers?

I wanted this to be good, but I don't think this is for me. And yeah I cringed a bit at the "urban" token black character, like come on...
 
This is a bit old, but here: Ivan Reitman and Dan Aykroyd set up a Ghostbusters production company.

In this movie, it's a cameo. But there's a lot of shit at play right now.

Eh. It could turn out to be a fine movie, but that godawful trailer did absolutely nothing to sell me on the movie, the cast or an eventual expanded Ghostbusters universe. It more or less soured me on the entire thing, even though I'd been cautiously optimistic about it.

I just hope Beetlejuice 2 won't end up being hot garbage, I don't want Hollywood to fuck up all the 80s movies I loved as a kid. At least they're not using that awful 'Beetlejuice goes Hawaiian' idea they had for a sequel back in the day.
 
Just showed the trailer to a friend of mine and can I just marvel at how fucking rad the shot of them throwing protons in the street is? The way it bursts out of the end of the wand almost like magma and little bits drip out onto the ground is such a cool effect.
 
I love the people who are acting like the hate is because they're "ruining a beloved franchise." Yeah, I'd hate for the sequel to Ghostbusters 2 to be poorly-received.

First off, franchises can't be sacred, don't be ridiculous. Second, Ghostbusters is a franchise consisting of a good movie from 30 years ago, a universally-reviled sequel, a mediocre third person shooter, a children's cartoon, and maybe a flavor of Hi-C? What's so holy about that again?

I just hope Beetlejuice 2 won't end up being hot garbage, I don't want Hollywood to fuck up all the 80s movies I loved as a kid.

Good news! Hollywood will continue to allow you to buy Beetlejuice.
 
This is a bit old, but here: Ivan Reitman and Dan Aykroyd set up a Ghostbusters production company.

In this movie, it's a cameo. But there's a lot of shit at play right now.

Wait, so they're gonna be doing a male cast GB too? I assume the idea is to have the two team up Avengers style at some point? Marvelizing GB, lovely.

I love the people who are acting like the hate is because they're "ruining a beloved franchise." Yeah, I'd hate for the sequel to Ghostbusters 2 to be poorly-received.

First off, franchises can't be sacred, don't be ridiculous. Second, Ghostbusters is a franchise consisting of a good movie from 30 years ago, a universally-reviled sequel, a mediocre third person shooter, a children's cartoon, and maybe a flavor of Hi-C? What's so holy about that again?



Good news! Hollywood will continue to allow you to buy Beetlejuice.

Don't talk shit about that Hi-C flavor now.
 
I had no idea that (some of) the ladies from "Bridesmaids" would be staring in this.

Before, I had zero interest. Now? Maybe 50% more interested. 😄
 
GB -> GB2 is a similar tone change that was in Gremlins -> Gremlins 2. Both sequels missed completely what made the originals great.

Except Gremlins 2 was exactly what they wanted to make. Joe Dante got full reign and did the movie he wanted to make.

“When I was asked to do the sequel, which I originally turned down because it was so hard to make the first one… The only reason I decided to make the sequel was because years later they had tried to make a sequel and couldn’t figure out how to do it, and they really wanted another one. So they said to me, “If you give us a couple of cans of film with gremlins in them next summer, you can do whatever you want.” And they gave me three times the money we had to make the first one.

So I made ‘Gremlins 2,’ which was essentially about how there didn’t need to be a sequel to ‘Gremlins.’ [Laughs]”

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3347681/joe-dante-says-gremlins-2-anti-sequel/
 
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