Hillary:"Where was Bernie when I got healthcare in 93?" Right there, she thanked him
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Liars get caught up in their web of lies.
I'm pretty sure if she can't figure out Google, your well meaning advice on GAF is likely to to go unseen.
Deliberately clipping a lengthy discussion down to a single sound bite that looks bad is what you do to win over uninformed voters.
It really makes no sense however you look at it. Bernie proposed his own plans for healthcare reform before/around the same time and Hillary herself thanked him for his attempts to help americans get access to healthcare. He was literally right there in the fight for healthcare.
Sure it is. Accusing someone of not leading the charge when you made sure no one else could lead the charge is fundamentally dishonest.
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Not if she keeps this shit up.
You sound like some 60 year old Republican who listens to Rush all day
OrangeGrayBlue
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According to Hillary within the last 4 days:
-Nancy Reagan started a national conversation on HIV/AIDS
-Bernie Sanders was absent from the universal health care fight of the 90's
-Bernie criticizes Bill and Obama but not George W Bush
-Bernie is a candidate supported by the Koch Bros.
I'm down for who ever the democratic nominee is, but it's hard to see the appeal of Hillary Clinton. She's the kind of politician that makes people cynical about politics.
-Nancy Reagan started a national conversation on HIV/AIDS
-Bernie Sanders was absent from the universal health care fight of the 90's
-Bernie criticizes Bill and Obama but not George W Bush
-Bernie is a candidate supported by the Koch Bros.
I'm down for who ever the democratic nominee is, but it's hard to see the appeal of Hillary Clinton. She's the kind of politician that makes people cynical about politics.
If Obama was running for President again next year against Romeny, you're saying he shouldn't point out his experience as Commander-in-Chief because he is the one that kept Romeny from being President?
Bernie Sanders was a congressman. Bernie lost the election to hold the politically relevant position of First Lady.
Also, it's stupid to phrase something like that when it can come back to bite you.
"Where was he?" was meant to be a politically charged statement. This same scenario played out earlier in the campaign.
Hillary's zinger didn't work out this time. It's politics and her campaign gets hit for it.
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She never had it to begin with. It's too bad Bernie isn't nearly as charismatic and photogenic as Obama is. Obama had the upset in the bag the moment he went against Hillary.
I'm not disagreeing with any of that.
Some intern is getting fired over this
I mean it isn't wrong to say she's lied/twisted her words I mean look at the post below you lol.
Maybe she can come out and lay claim to what you're giving her credit towards. Being coy certainly isn't being explicit if what you claimed is the angle she is going for. It's quite clear she is trying to discredit him, or at least rob him of his long standing health care convictions on the grounds that he didn't do nearly enough relative to her strategic take one the issue at that time.
My sentiments exactly
Yeah, I think she couldn't remember since it had been so long ago. Not really defending her, she shouldn't say shit like that unless she's 100 percent sure that what she's saying is factual. I mean, I can't even remember what I ate last night, I'd have a hard time remembering everyone that helped me out 23 years ago.
So I don't think it was a lie but it was definitely a big fuck up on her part.
OrangeGrayBlue
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No, he actually shouldn't. You don't often hear incumbent presidents say "I've already done it for four years" as an argument for their reelection.
Uhhh the pic in the OP was posted like 2 months ago, you don't think Clinton saw it in that time?
I knew of all of these gaffes but just...ugh.
I'm going to vote for whoever the Democrat nom. is as too much is at stake (even if it wasn't, I'd still vote Democrat) and I'm never voting Republican but geez she is making it very very very hard for me to want to vote for her.
No, I said if you've arranged for your husband to create a spotlight on you, asking why other people weren't in it is in disingenuous.
...of course you do. Every single President that has ever run for reelection has talked about their accomplishments in office.
NeoGold123
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Hey man... Like, what's wrong with Rush?
Her exact phrasing was questioning that he wasn't fighting for healthcare when she was. Which is outright false. He was doing anything but free-riding on the sidelines. He was pushing for his own single-payer form of healthcare even way back then.
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nothing, that's the problem
I guess I'll have to reserve talking about it until there's actually a transcript or footage that hasn't been intentionally truncated.
Eh, it's politics for sure, but the fact is that Hillary was leading the efforts at the time.
And if it wasn't Hillary, it wouldn't have been Bernie. He wasn't important enough.
NeoGold123
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I think they mean Rush Limbaugh and not the prog rock band Rush
Oh, yeah, yeah maybe. Let's hope so. Lol
Except he was literally among the few pushing their own healthcare plans......Bernie was a voice even way back then. Why are you continually trying to downplay what he's actually done in this topic. >_>
Obama wasn't appointed to the position by his spouse.
He at one point had no experience as the President. Being the president prior doesn't automatically make you better for the job. There is a reason why it's good to have fresh eyes approach a situation.
Why did she personally thank him for his leadership then? Also it's hard for Bernie to compete with the unelected position of First Lady.
Especially considering the position of the Clintons on gay marriage, up until when Hillary needed to say it was OK - he couldn't win Bill's heart!
No one disputed that, though. You seem to have this backwards. It was Hillary disputing someone else's record erroneously and disingenuously, not the other way around.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I think there's a difference between touting your accomplishments in office and simply saying "I've been president for four years and he hasn't."
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I see. Well I think it's because many (most I'm guessing) people still aren't really paying attention unfortunately. I mean they might know a few things about each candidate or they may have heard Bernie is a broken record who cant get anything done and Hillary Clinton is the establishment politics as usual candidate, but many people don't really go and look into the issues and try to discern the fact from the fiction. They don't know what really differentiates the candidates.
So they see small things like this on their facebook feed or in a news headline or wherever and for better or worse (worse imo) these are the types of things that people latch onto. It's a hive mind.
Sure, but asking her where she was the first few years of your marriage would be a weird statement to make. (assuming here. I don't know what your relationship is like)
The funny thing about the lie spread on Bernie not getting anything done-he works successfully across the aisle quite a bit. And even if Republicans don't always agree with him they certainly get along with him for the most part.
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And I said it was poorly done on her campaign's part.
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“The revolution never came. I waited, and I’ve got the scars to show for it" - Hillary Clinton
Hillary was truly ripped to shreds on Universal Health Care, and it's the main reason why the right hates her.
I can see why she would think Sanders wasn't really there when it counted, and why she now has doubts about his ability to pass his health proposal.
Hillary was truly ripped to shreds on Universal Health Care, and it's the main reason why the right hates her.
I can see why she would think Sanders wasn't really there when it counted, and why she now has doubts about his ability to pass his health proposal.
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