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2 Super 2 Tuesday |OT| I'm Really Feeling (The Bern) (3/15, 3/22, 3/26 Contests)

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Who on earth are you even talking to?

The dozen or so people that would actually do that. People who haven't experienced primaries panic when they see the emotional responses of supporters for floundering politicians in the same party. Plenty of Hillary supporters said the same thing about Obama back in 2008 but they came around: Sanders' die-hards will as well because Sanders himself would far rather see Clinton take the win than any Republican but especially Trump.

Damn for all the Bernie hype online this dude is getting killed by Hilary

The fact that a self-proclaimed socialist would do this well is telling of a shift in the electorate. We may be having a very different conversation if Sanders had increased his profile among minorities who were largely unaware of him before the past six months.
 
The fact that so many people here are just calling it with less than 1% accounted for in 3 states and less than 5% in another is pathetic.
 
it's about stopping Trump and trying to convince the GOP that he can be their man in a brokered convention

Exactly.

It's not about stopping him from getting the most votes, it's about stopping him from getting a certain percentage of votes now.

They won't be able to stop Trump, tho...
 
Why is Kasich even celebrating? Why are his fans cheering?

He is mathematically eliminated.

He could win 100% of the votes from here on out and still not win the nomination.

He dodged the political career ending bullet that hit Rubio. You don't come back into the spotlight after losing your home state that much.
 
Any Sanders supporter who votes for Trump supports fascism. You don't have to vote for Hillary if you live in a non-swing state, but if you do live in a swing state, vote for Hillary. Capitalism is still more historically progressive than fascism, and helping Trump win in any way is worse than maintaining the status quo and working within the party to try to force it more leftwards through midterms and local elections.

Not really capitalism though, Crony capitalism.

Status quo of crony capitalism is definitely better than populist right wing fascism. No questions asked.
 
Is he really so conceited that he thinks he'll be handed the nomination at an open convention despite having fewer delegates than Cruz and Trump?

The whole point is to prevent Trump from going to the convention with enough delegates to win. The GOP is desperately trying to make it so neither Trump or Cruz have enough to claim the nomination. Cruz is equally as bad as Trump in the eyes of the GOP.

He's the only man now to be handed the nomination for the GOP if it's brokered.
 
He dodged the political career ending bullet that hit Rubio. You don't come back into the spotlight after losing your home state that much.

But Rubio had already won a state. Now Kasich has won a state.

He's in virtually the same position that Rubio was in prior to tonight.
 
Really bummed that Bernie is looking to go 0-5 today. Thought he had a shot at at least a couple of those states. I think, if he really does lose them all, this has to be the end for him. In which case, well, I guess I'm voting Hilldawg in the fall, which honestly feels pretty shitty still even though she's a Democrat.

My hope with Hilldawg is that she brings with her a team of competent Democrats and hopefully, just hopefully, they don't go balls out on wars in the Middle East.
 
If Hillary wants my vote she'll have to come a bit further left and be a lot less cozy with corporate America and less hawkish. Let's see what she does with the time until November, I guess.
 
I really truly do not want Hillary as President, but it does indeed look like Bernie is done. If it is indeed Trump vs Hillary like it looks like it is after tonight, then yeah the lesser of two evils is Hillary.

So nothing will change or improve for the majority of Americans for eight years now, this sucks. :(

Well, if you had Trump, things would actually be WORSE. So Status Quo vs. regression.

What sucks about Hillary though is that Republicans are obviously evil so when a fellow lefty turns out to be no more than a shill for corporate interests... that betrayal just hurts, and its way such a strong dislike for Hillary is invoked.
 
Yep, it's pretty much done. Hopefully Hillary is capable to pull in those disillusioned Berniebros and get some unity going in spite of this weird candidate spite going on between their supporters.

That's Bernie's job. Hillary did it for Obama in '08 in a much more heated and contested primary.
 
I mean, I hate Clinton, but I hate Trump even more.

Anyone who votes for Trump is a bad person. No questions asked. That includes crossover voters in primaries.

But I certainly won't vote for Clinton, either. We have more than two choices on Presidential ballots.
 
Are you blind or just extremely short sighted? Supreme court picks by Clinton for the next 8 years will help progressives for DECADES.

This. The GOP worked hard for 40 years to get us this fucked. Why do liberals think we can change it overnight.

Baby steps Elle. It stay on the path!
 
Disappointed that Bernie didn't do great but it was kinda obvious that he wouldn't be winning the nomination in the end anyway. The 200+ lead was rather huge and from what I understand, Hillary could never get over the 100 delegate lead in 2008 so a 200 lead is really massive.
 
Liberals who favor muscular foreign policy. Your Sam Harris types.

It goes further than that. It's a pro-corporate, Realist international policy movement borne from McGovern's loss. Liberals decided "WELP, A LIBERAL LOST, TIME TO GIVE UP LIBERALISM." They veered to the right because they lost badly. It seemed to have success for a while with Bill Clinton, but it's been a pretty bad go of it, since. I think the problem with the party right now is that they're purposely downplaying their accomplishments -- afraid of their own success -- and trying to veer rightward again to hold house and senate seats.

This doesn't work, because if you have the choice between a Republican and a fake-Republican, the Republican wins, most of the time -- especially when Republicans are eating themselves alive from the far right and further right.
 
Why is Kasich even celebrating? Why are his fans cheering?

He is mathematically eliminated.

He could win 100% of the votes from here on out and still not win the nomination.

Stops Trump's ultimate victory. Can contest the convention now maybe.
 
The fact that so many people here are just calling it with less than 1% accounted for in 3 states and less than 5% in another is pathetic.

If you think they are calling races based on 1% then you really have no idea just how much data is out there right now about who exactly voted from a ton of organizations in all these states.
 
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