Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Again being capable of 4k gaming isn't saying much. It could be running tetris at 4k for all we know, and it's technically capable.
Currently, the ps4 is limited to 24hz in 4k as far as I'm aware. The new one may be capable of outputting in 4k@60fps. And some very low intensive games may run in 4k, but I don't expect it to be a general resolution games render at with 99+% of the games.
New console every 3 years, and every new console has to support the console that came before it, Would make a fine 6 year cycle without being stagnant for too long.
ArchedThunder
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The question is how is the naming going to work, because if you consider this a PS4.5 the PS5 is just going to be to the PS4.5 what the PS4.5 was to the PS4. Sony might have to change the naming scheme entirely.
I really hope this rumor is true, the idea of never having to worry about losing my library again and not feeling like I need to upgrade right away will be great. I'll probably wait for the first price drop of each upgrade as them come.
This. It's perfect.
Solrac
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ds3 on pc looks like dont will have that kind of problem, so maybe could be a hardware limitation ?
If something like this is in the works, I want to see how developers react with their software output. Will new systems play old games? Will old systems play new games? Will there be droughts when a new system launches?
Obviously no one knows what the heck to make out of this but I would be a little worried. Developers are already having a tough time with costs. If this shift in the industry leads to bigger struggles for developers, it could spell a serious problem for the industry. PC would largely be unaffected by this though.
I hope that if this is true that it is handled correctly, and the industry thrives from it.
Obviously no one knows what the heck to make out of this but I would be a little worried. Developers are already having a tough time with costs. If this shift in the industry leads to bigger struggles for developers, it could spell a serious problem for the industry. PC would largely be unaffected by this though.
I hope that if this is true that it is handled correctly, and the industry thrives from it.
SDCowboy
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Got a link?
Mister Megative
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Crimsonclaw111
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You can fix framepacing on PC thanks to external applications.
JeffAtomsky
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PS4 Crossfire
PS4 32X
PS4 32X
Giriath_89
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It's been a ride. It would have to be 4K for games that aren't graphically taxing, but I'm having trouble reconciling even that with an affordable price and an end of year release.
Especially since according to all other sources this thing is in early development.
I guarantee you console manufacturers stopped thinking of consoles as toys sometime around the transition to PS2 and Xbox.
The PS2 was really the beginning of the "home media device" thinking for consoles (possibly even the PS1 in Kutaragi's mind). Microsoft got into the Xbox business because it thought consoles were going to be a vehicle to get operating systems into the living room and away from desktops (which is what phones ended up doing). Microsoft is only going further in this direction by making Xbox its living room portal to UWP. It wants Xbox to be part of a UWP install base it's trying to grow. Making the next Xbox completely start the software library and user base from zero would be a terrible way to go about it. If you ask me, the PSP was the first gaming machine that felt distinctly more like a computer than a toy.
No.
I believe that 4K will be more relevant in blu-ray and indie/ early gen games.
Modern AAA games will probably target 1080P with higher framerate and fidelity, so this machine is relevant for most of us who don't own a 4K set.
Son Of Sparda
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Okay, that' a fair point.
flatearthpandas
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This is my first thought. This news is very disappointing to me if true.
Goldenmoney
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Well it'll be more powerful if it supports 4k gaming, so all games will likely run better on new PS4.
I mean it makes sense right?
http://venturebeat.com/2016/02/16/m...playstation-4-xbox-one-in-2017-arm-forecasts/
Not the craziest of conspiracy theories.
gundamkyoukai
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Those GPUs have very high mark up .
Plus they don't sell the amount that consoles do .
Of course that is if this rumor is true .
The_Inquisitor
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Holy fuck my mind is blown still thinking about this.
I agree, and we don't really know what the scope of the changes are. I'd be inclined that if the developers are calling it the PS4K, it's more than an updated to the HDMI port.
I think this image does a good job illustrating why a console manufacturer might go with an iterative model.
You still get better hardware periodically, but without resetting your install base and software library from zero.
Anyway, for all intents and purposes, Sony and Microsoft are probably going to stick with x86 architecture for the foreseeable future, even if they don't release new consoles until we get a PS5 in 2019 or something. In that situation, the PS5 under the hood is really just an upgraded PS4, but upgraded to a degree that we usually consider to be a "generational leap." At that point there's probably no technical reason not to do backwards compatibility or upgrade the existing OS.
This is correct and how I see it going too. NX will be going ARM is my bet for handheld and console unification. Switching between ARM and x86, is not really hard either so even Nintendo should be able to get 3rd party support I also believe they plan to drop much of their unique aspects of how porting works etc. Lots of talk of easier development from Nintendo, and Miyamoto even commenting on CPUs needing to be faster and such.
The whole industry is looking in this direction to unify their hardware and game library.
I think it's much more likely that the NX is going to blow current gen consoles out of the water and Sony/Microsoft don't want to be left behind when that happens. Also the PS4 won't be able to run anything too graphically intensive on VR
Herp Derpington
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My thoughts exactly. I'd wager that it has to do with some not wanting to accept that their system they just bought already being outdated. I mean I can understand it to a degree but there comes a point where you just have to be happy with what you have. If you want to live on the bleeding edge you need to accept the speed it operates at and the costs associated.
No but there are new people needing new cars and tvs every year. Same with consoles. If marketed right Sony and MS will have no problem at all selling the concept to the masses. There's going to be a percentage of the populace that will initially refuse and they either grudgingly accept it and pay to keep up or drop out.
MS and Sony know the way the market is headed and they're trying to get out in front of it. You either accept the console cycle as you know it has most likely changed or you find a new hobby.
shouamabane
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Could SATA III be introduced? Some PS4 load times are pretty bad.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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We need gifs at 4K. When people complain that their PC and bandwidth cannot handle the gif, we will laugh and tell them to upgrade.
No one doubts Kotaku, I think most of us believe a more powerful PS4 is indeed under development, it just that some of us doubt the additional details Zoetis shared here.
Mister Megative
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Heh.
You guys. You REALLY think Sony is gonna release a brand new 399.99 machine this fall to compete with PSVR? Ive got some sweet-ass waterfront property in the Gobi desert you'll love.
You guys are just eating this right up.
You guys. You REALLY think Sony is gonna release a brand new 399.99 machine this fall to compete with PSVR? Ive got some sweet-ass waterfront property in the Gobi desert you'll love.
You guys are just eating this right up.
SHAFT MASTER
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I'd lose my shit if it was Sony's version of onlive
Goldenmoney
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Wii U doesn't blow PS3 or 360 out of the water, so I highly doubt NX will be that much more powerful.
I simply don't understand the point of this or how its even possible. 1080p => 4k is a HUUUUUGE upgrade, that doesn't seem like a half console step to me. Most TVs also don't even support 4k yet, its a huge luxury device at this point in time. And I can't imagine theres anyway you hit 4k on a $400 console right now even keeping all the existing poly counts and fx the same. There has to be some crazy trickery for this to work out.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Thanks for the answers.
Well my launch ps4's fans are getting loud so if this does happen I'll bite.
Goldenmoney
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Kind of like new 3DS.
The_Inquisitor
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So for me I don't plan on buying a 4k set until OLED prices drop some more. I would be perfectly happy with 1080p 60FPS or even 1080p 30FPS.
All 13 people who were planning on purchasing a stand alone 4K blu ray machine will be very satisfied
NormalFish
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Fuck you, let me talk to a prince.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Not this fall. Next fall. This fall is too soon and will kill their brand in ways you wouldn't believe. PS4s on fire off the shoulder of Orion. We'll watch PSVR glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those E3 moments will be lost in time, like salty tears...in...rain. Time to die.
