You still need it to dump the games.
Wii U Emulator Cemu Can Now Play Super Mario 3D World [Nearly] Fullspeed on PC
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You still need it to dump the games.
Prevolition
Member
Wait... you regret purchasing a console with games that you enjoy playing so much that you would play them all over again at a higher resolution?
ussjtrunks
Member
I've finished Xenoblade X on wiiu and my one wish is to see it running at 4k, Hopefully someday
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Gonna need it to play these games on your PC.
FrozenCell
Member
why collect useless plastic?
Nintendo would get direct sales on Steam, also bit from fans catching all Pokemon trading cards
it's bring your own emulator day featuring CRT-Royale shader
You know, the countless rants of users on here about the evil PCMR is pretty insufferable as well. Even more so considering that the kind of PCMR you are talking about doesn't even exist on GAF in any considerable number.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Keep in mind I'm not referring to any PCMR-heads on NeoGAF.
Also they're not evil, just irritating.
Oh there's no way to dump the game without the console? I don't know too much about emulation obviously..
roadrunn3r
Member
So why are we talking about a reddit sub on GAF? That other extreme is also irritating if not more especially the kind that use emulation threads for piracy crusades.
FrozenCell
Member
there are also some activists competing with each other on who's the first to dump newest games to the internet..
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
ELI5: why are we close to full speed on this but not an Xbox emulator?
I believe that's still how it works for the Wii. You need to have the disc in the Wii and you use a homebrew program run off an SD Card/HD to dump the disc there. Then you take that SD Card/HD and load the image onto your PC.
At least, that's how I understand it. I've only had a Wii U for a couple weeks and haven't really looked into it all that much yet.
There are ways to rip Wii discs with certain PC DVD drives. Of course using a Wii with homebrew is generally the easier way to go about doing it.
Honestly I think it's because GAF as an actual forum is anti piracy. I guarantee a significant amount of people who say anti piracy stuff but support emulators are actually pro/neutral on piracy, but you get banned for being that on GAF
More on topic: that's cool as fuck! It was always rad as hell to see Dolphin running stuff on my friend's computers. Current gen stuff is interesting as fuck to me
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Is there an easy way to rip Wii U games off the disc and hard drives yet?
Real_Madrid
Member
And this is why I hate emulators, people can say all they want about 'game preservation' and other weird arguments for current gen consoles, but at the end of the day, 99% will pirate it.
But it's good to remember that an emulator can only play SP games and it will always have emulation bugs.
Where did I say I was going to pirate any of my games?
The unfortunate thing about consoles. Unless emulation is possible, you're left hoping for a remaster if you want some modern resolutions. Otherwise all we get are VC type releases, which are nice but hardly ideal.
You can buy games without owning the system.
Battlechili
Banned
This is awesome news! Although I'm more curious to see how Xenoblade Chronicles X fares on the new build.
By the way, while it runs at full speed, is it still only at an ingame status, or is it fully playable?
By the way, while it runs at full speed, is it still only at an ingame status, or is it fully playable?
Pokemaniac
Member
Original Xbox?
Probably some combination of lack of interest and exotic hardware. The original Xbox is in many ways off-the-shelf, but not quite.
Motivation at this point. Sort of like how Sega Saturn emulation is still rough. There's just not a ton of games to motivate the developers.
Plus Dolphin's work on the Wii might have helped spring this off.
Lunarwhale
Member
The Wii U's processor is PowerPC based, which has more thorough documentation and emulation work done for it.
The Xbox's processing is nuts. Some of what it uses from Nvidia are still used today, so documentation and specs aren't as widely available. It's proven to be difficult to crack and the motivation isn't there for a lot of people when there are more exciting and in-demand projects where progress can be more easily achieved.
Pokemaniac
Member
In this case, you can't dump them without it, however.
dottme
Member
if you sell your wiiU, how are you going to run any game without any OS. At least, your post was kind of suggesting that you did not want your WiiU anymore.
You need your wiiU if you want to run wiiU game.
SinCityAssassin
Member
That said, for this case you still need the system to play the games on the emulator.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Waiting for Pokken emulation! 
Bad documentation and the Xbox exclusive games were all niche and not very popular, the rest are already on PC so there was no interest. But there's this.
Assuming the poster doesn't have a problem with downloading an ISO for a game he owns.
I think that particular case is where the lines of emulation start to get very blurry for me.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Doesn't seem to be in full resolution and the lighting is all off, yeah. and it's not a consistent full speed at some areas that were smooth on the console proper.
entremet
Member
Emulation is never full proof and this only one game and it's still not full speed and it's missing effects.
Plenty of emulators have multiplayer enabled. Dolphin was able to connect to Nintendo WFC.
Higan, Nestopia & Exodus are emulators built to be cycle accurate in order to attempt achieving 100% accuracy.
Emulation will rarely get to a playable point quick enough to have an effect on sales and ultimately is our only form of preservation. Someone, stupidly, feeling like they've wasted their money because an extremely inaccurate emulated version of a game comes out years after release isn't indicative of the general feeling of consumers. If you've anything to fear it would be piracy on the actual hardware.
Frankenstrat
Member
Silly Sm4sh? Alpharad pls
Re: Xbox emulation progress
A lot of modern emulator development is based on a paradigm shift model. Developing by leaps and bounds often requires large leaks of documentation, SDKs, or other dev software. Hell, some people think Cemu is based on Unity stuff for Wii U and that very well may be the case. For Xbox, it was my impression that you've got fairly capable, complicated hardware coupled with a lack of the aforementioned documentation, so a lot of the fine details are missing.
A lot of modern emulator development is based on a paradigm shift model. Developing by leaps and bounds often requires large leaks of documentation, SDKs, or other dev software. Hell, some people think Cemu is based on Unity stuff for Wii U and that very well may be the case. For Xbox, it was my impression that you've got fairly capable, complicated hardware coupled with a lack of the aforementioned documentation, so a lot of the fine details are missing.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I've seen a few people now say that 99% of people use emulators for pirating. Does anyone have a link for these surveys that are being referenced?
Comfort Jones
Banned
I'm sure a big number of emulator users are pirates, that doesn't make all these shit posts any less shit post-tastic. Are people just never supposed to make emulators, is that what you want? So if we want to play games on more modern hardware we can just go fuck ourselves right?
Also emulation absolutely is game preservation and I do not understand this nonsense like "It's not hard to get a copy of x game". Well of course it fucking isn't right now that doesn't make it any less valuable down the road. Wasn't exactly hard to get a copy of Melee at one point either and lololol check out those online prices.
Also emulation absolutely is game preservation and I do not understand this nonsense like "It's not hard to get a copy of x game". Well of course it fucking isn't right now that doesn't make it any less valuable down the road. Wasn't exactly hard to get a copy of Melee at one point either and lololol check out those online prices.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Because whenever someone mentions emulation of hardware still on store shelfs all I can picture is the average PCMR frequenter beating their chest about how powerful their hardware is that they don't need to buy consoles to play their exclusive games.
Do you think this statement makes you seem normal?
Because it makes you sound incredibly insecure.
Maybe all that is happening in your head?
Given that you have no interaction with those types, I bet it must seem way worse in your imagination. Even were they to do so in real life, who gives a shit?
I don't even regret buying an Xbox One, and I don't have to emulate it on PC. Haha
What's a PCMR?
A Bogeyman.
Anthony Soprano
Banned
So many pirates completed Skyward Sword using the leaked version before it even hit store shelves using Dolphin. Guess the same thing is about to happen to ZeldaU. I can see a lot of people abandoning their console after this, really no reason to own it, although I guess for local multiplayer this isn't an option at the moment - as well as online gaming on Splatoon and Smash.
It supports the gamepad, which is amazing.
It supports the gamepad, which is amazing.
Some emulators are 100% accurate (bsnes comes to mind), so no.
And you can add online play for games that don't even support it. Smash melee is playable online for example.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Because the WiiU has a horrible and slow CPU
Plus there is documentation on the technology of the hardware inside the WiiU it was almost literally made with off the self parts
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Emulation is not illegal. How an individual chooses to get the software itself is an entirely different story, but I don't think that should prevent anyone from discussing emulation.
Why do you care?