NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
Milly Osworth
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I'm still on teamfake.
There are no USPs with this controller. Nintendo isn't THAT stupid. Come on people.
There are no USPs with this controller. Nintendo isn't THAT stupid. Come on people.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
FFS people, I was pointing at the entirety of what I circled.
All of what you see in the larger selection is a reflection of the monitor, the guy backlit by the light included.
That sharp vertical line that crosses the left thumbstick is the EDGE of the monitor which is being reflected.
I mean at this point some of you don't understand how reflections work, I'm not sure I trust your ability to discern between what is real or fake.
ugh
But what is reflected off of the monitor will be at the inverse angle of the monitor to the device, the picture is rather vertical, and the device is below the monitor, so what is reflected in the monitor is above the point of the monitor that is reflected in the device, I.e. The ceiling.
So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
It's baffling how many people can't see this.
The 16:9 area is between the sticks. The whole controller is in a 21:9 rectangle, not a 16:9.
UnemployedVillain
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The way I see it, assuming this is real, they'll have a "standar" controller" option as part of the SDK that will just make the controller mimic a typical dual analog button layout, or a dual analog handheld (with a 16:9 screen). That way straight ports won't have to necessarily be tweaked. The same way thr Wii U had features like mirroring, streaming, etc given for free to devs
Now make the same but with a 21:9 aspect ratio.
So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
Graphics Horse
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24:9
Fractology
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If you get this flustered over other peoples confusion then maybe you shouldn't have drawn the arrow pointing directly at the blob that people were already calling a head and labeling it "monitor." Don't be so instantly flabbergasted and frankly rude, without at least trying to understand why people were confused in the first place. Obviously it wasn't as clear as it was to you and hence the confusion.
So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
Umm....just shrink the 16:9 rectangle in your picture and it will fit inside the box oval
Disregard my idea
This is a lot better holy crap
This could work. But you need a better grip (I'm sure they are aware of that) and more physical buttons. Just because you need a start, a home button, maybe a select, and at least 2 or 4 buttons that are not joysticks for combinaisons etc.
But it needs to be a little big bigger, either as a whole or vertically because the scope/21:9 aspect ratio is a good idea but cutting that much the edges is weird.
If this thing is real, it probably has the Baltic feedback, yes. That won't save it though. Of say they have a bigger bomb on their hands than Wii U.
There you go. I could see them putting out an app that pairs with the new handheld and the gamepad. You account for everyone you need to with that.
Would they sell gloves separately?
R
Rösti
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It's certainly rich in POD anyhow.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Closing in on 1,000,000 views.
In any case, I think that if any company were to use a design like this one, they would go for a diifferent aspect ratio, like a pseudo 21:9. In that case the parts that would be blocked with your thumbs would be just part of the added space in comparison to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just put together a quick image as a representation for the concept. (please note the scale is wrong in this one too not to mention the terrible quick dirty job)
In my example the darker area represents a 16:9 ratio and the whole scren is a pseudo 21:9. I think we are doing wrong in to thinking that games will be displayed as 16:9 images scaled to fit the screen and then even cut its corners. IMO the games as it would appear on xbox one, ps4,and wii u will show in the darker area I represented. The extra space in the screen will be kind of an exclusive of the system and used to accomodate hud and buttons, wich ironically would give you a more clear view of the game without huds and what not blocking the view in that 16:9 space. I hope I managed to explain my idea.
I think this deserve to be quoted again for the ones that can't use the imagination beyond 16:9.
Parapraxis
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no.
If i wanted to focus on the persons reflection, I would have circled only that. Anyways, I'll try to be even more painfully explicit next time.
Fourth Storm
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Makes it easier when you Google search for a GAF thread, Bro.
The point is, who makes 21:9 games for consoles if the current standard is 1080p?
Also, the rounded shape still ignores a lot of pixels even at that ratio.
hprshredder
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I just want to play the next Zelda, Nintendo please get your shit together and show us some proof that the ball is rolling and that we aren't going to have another year of virtually nothing like the last few Wii years.
Oh my f-ing God, please. There is a thing called 'programming' or 'coding'. Developers can make it 21:9...
At Nintendo there aren't any standards.
DataStream
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I would imagine that they'd do plenty of ergonomic tests before settling on a form factor like that. The back of the device would have ridges to assist in holding it and feeling less akward than it looks (or swappable containers like shown earlier).
Hell, normal people have hacked PC games to render ultrawide without meaningful programming knowledge. If the power is there its not an issue.
Hell, normal people have hacked PC games to render ultrawide without meaningful programming knowledge. If the power is there its not an issue.
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I assume you're referencing the Ppwer Glove, which I don't actually know about. Regardless, they're not going to kill Wii U and then start selling Gamepads separately when they wouldn't do it while the console was alive. This isn't even an argument.
Well, game developers ?
And 1080p is possible with 21:9 since it refers to the number of vertical pixels. From what we know of 21:9 PC gaming it isn't that bad performance-wise and here you have less space that on a 21:9 rectangle. Also nothing says that the screen would be 1080p, it could be a lower resolution.
Fourth Storm
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What's amazing is that many of these same posters lamenting the ergonomics here probably wanted something like a 3DS for the handheld. The 3DS XL is horridly uncomfortable to hold.
Ever held an NES controller? The Wii Remote sideways? If Nintendo don't offer an official grip attachment, a 3rd party will.
Is that tech for the screen raising really anywhere near ready at mass market price and usability? I'd be astonished if that's happening here. That'd be something.
DownGrader
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For some reason, I'm totally expecting Nintendo to go back to DSi-style linear menu as the main menu mode (unlike on 3DS, where it's present but optional and kind of forgotten).
Maybe I didn't explain clearly, but light reflects at the angle it hits the reflective surface (assuming it's flat and not incredibly refractive). It's physics.
We may both be saying the same thing it's just hard to explain clearly without a diagram.
Edit: this might help. What is reflected in the monitor is absolutely above desk level. It has to be. There is no other way to draw the reflection for that camera angle.
http://www.optics4kids.org/home/content/what-is-optics/reflection/the-reflection-of-light/
n0razi
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If it does come with a clamp on grip, then that would solve that problem, and buttons on that grip (or on the face) would solve the other. Like this mockup:
Toadthemushroom
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Yeah, with a screen that reaches the bezels, context can even be added to the mouse wheel triggers (let's be honest, that left wheel is totally going to be used to cycle items on Monster Hunter 5).
But yeah, having an extended screen in the periphery of your vision is a great step forward due to increased flexibility, but also because the 3DS XL was diminishing the usefulness of the second screen. Both screens are too big for me to monitor both at the same time comfortably, so I struggle with some games that rely on the player being able to notice something happen on the other screen, or anything that uses both at once.
Was just making a joke at the "Baltic feedback" (or freezing cold) in my quoted post. I'm guessing autocorrect was at play.
Fourth Storm
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No, and it will be a quickly vanishing savior . We don't even know if it's any good in practice. To even consider that Nintendo might use it is a hail mary in hope.
Toadthemushroom
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For some reason, I'm totally expecting Nintendo to go back to DSi-style linear menu as the main menu mode (unlike on 3DS, where it's present but optional and kind of forgotten).
I think we'll probably get something more similar to this in terms of how the icons are arranged:
Indigo Rush
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So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
lmao people getting hung up over 16:9 aspect ratio - the concept matters, not the specific numbers.
I think this is a good observation. Everyone's losing their taint over how weird the screen is for gaming when this thing's supposed to be secondary to the big screen in front of you, not the main screen for gameplay (aside from some WiiU-ish gimmicks I guess). It's meant to shake up the UI and input, not the field of view.
Toadthemushroom
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So this is what I'm thinking.
This isn't intended for watching the game's action. It's more like the second screen on the DS. Nintendo realized that the screen on Wii U's pad was too much, but the second screen on the DS is useful enough as it is.
The amount of pixels to be ignored in a 16:9 ratio image in this thing is HUGE, so they'd explore a smaller format just for this screen, a extra wide ratio, made for secondary UI.
Since the "nipples" (ahem) are quite small, it'd be easy for your fingers to "arch" over them and reach items in the screen, such as keyboards or buttons for items.
I think the right hand side is on the money, but the left hand side isn't -- if you fixed the screen's height at 16:9, then a 16:9 image fits comfortably between both sticks, so the space to the left and right make it up to ~21:9.
I see where you're coming from though -- a concern is that inputs placed inwards around the sticks will actually obscure things if you thought the gameplay was happening between both sticks. An NX handheld will probably be larger, but retain the same shape and have the on-screen inputs further away from a rendering area for the game.
I'd be more shocked to see them actually launch this thing with a vanilla multi/touch screen and two sticks. They have the slimmest chance in the world of winning people over with haptics, but they have to know internally that the core audience doesn't take well to iPad games.
It gets me every time!
Honestly what I'd like is that the default NX controller is a GCN or pro controller style controller but you can optionally use the handheld as a Gamepad if you really want to for optional second screen stuff. I'm not really sure how well that'd pan out realistically but this is just my 2 cents.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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For some reason, I'm totally expecting Nintendo to go back to DSi-style linear menu as the main menu mode (unlike on 3DS, where it's present but optional and kind of forgotten).
I hope not. Linear menus are god awful
MilkyJoe
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Ahh I see what you mean now, like the man in orthopedic shoes, I stand corrected.
Davey Cakes
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PLEASE NO on linear menus.
Plinko
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For some reason, I'm totally expecting Nintendo to go back to DSi-style linear menu as the main menu mode (unlike on 3DS, where it's present but optional and kind of forgotten).
No thank you. Scrolling through a linear menu is trash.
The specific numbers matter when you try to make an argument based only on the said numbers. Otherwise the argument is flawed from the start.
Fourth Storm
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Considering they've done it two gens in a row w/ Wii and Wii U, that's a pretty safe bet.
Chezzymann
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The PS4 one is decent in my opinion
But why? Why take the performance hit just for some peripheral pixels that will be obscured by hands?
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