He's extremely annoying.
HTC Vive is $799, ships early April 2016
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He's extremely annoying.
CarbonFire
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My room is already small enough (2.3x1.9m)
I don't want to make it even smaller.
You may have to resign yourself to a standing/sitting VR experience, as that sounds awfully small for "roomscale". Luckily the Vive seems to handle those experiences just as well as it does bigger spaces.
From what I've seen it looks cool but I couldn't stand more than a few seconds of the video. Why does he keep yelling?
I live with my parents so wall mounting is already out of the question for me. Isnt there some 3M product thats used for sticking heavier objects to walls?
Zalusithix
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1.5x2m is the official small standard, so he can do that.
Thank you sir. Ehh that's not looking good for my room :/
qa_engineer
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You'll be alright with the standing only setup. Just rest assured that you'll be sort of future proof with the inclusion of the light house units.
Today i reserved two of those:
You can clench it between floor and ceiling, so it's a great way to temporary and fast build up a virtual playground.
Can't help you, but that's a sweet room!
Compsiox
Banned
I have this setup and it works very well.
Because 12 year olds, heh.
DouglasteR
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If you attach a pad on it to increase the tape area its possible, but not reaaaally secure.
The lighthouses aren't that lightweight and (because of its rotor) they vibrate a little, so its only a matter of time for them to fall down if sticked.
In the end i wall mount them anyway. Its much more safe and easy to modify its position. Peace of mind.
Guardian Monkey
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You know what I am seeing here initially is the back to basic gameplay that we had in arcades in the early eighties for alot of this room scale stuff. Which to start off will be great. I am sure as the tech matures we will get more complex stuff but this back to basics is actually refreshing.
The real question is when does tron come out? =p
The real question is when does tron come out? =p
BlackRainbowFT
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I have:
Product Name: VIVE Kit - April Shipment - Switzerland - Part 1
So yeah, your shipping date is just "May"...
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Opposite side of that coin is that developers will not have enough incentive to explore VR space beyond the back to basics if the install base is too small and will not warrant a return on their investment. This is the most likely scenario imo.
Fahzgoolin
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That's a beautiful room you have there.
Where do you live? I don't see that kind of style here in the Midwest.
Zalusithix
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Exploration doesn't require AAA budgets. Super high production values and grand scales increase cost, but innovation on the software side is actually quite cheap. Particularly when virtually nothing has been explored.
Guardian Monkey
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Yeah. Until there is a larger userbase I agree. But I am ok with that. Not every game has to be EVE. Also with the rise of the indie devs out there look for alot of different stuff. I really am not worried about it.
Thanks! I live in Switzerland. The room looks a little bit different now. New PC and other stuff.
Yeah, I'm also one of the people who have a hard time watching "Let's Plays", but the Node guys are alright.
viveks86
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Wall mounting is not an option for me.
Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
Got an Amazon link?
Would love an Amazon link if you got it.
Also I watched the funahus guys do vr pictionary with tilt brush and a vive pre from the looks of it. Still looks like a blast!
https://youtu.be/uEDZopT7deI
I picked up some cheap tripods with the ball swivel adapter so I can angle them in any direction.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003PEUA30/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B012FTXOW4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Very easy to set up. I think max height is something like 9ft although I'd be a little concerned with vibration/shaking of the tripod at that height.
Did a reverse image search and found this, no Amazon.com link though:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolfcraft-4042000-Ceiling-Maximum-Capacity/dp/B001BWT2PA
IMACOMPUTA
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I'm interested in finding a way to buy these in the US as well, if anyone finds anything.
Screen based video games are by their nature abstractions. I think one of the issues people see in VR is that most of those abstractions go away. Without explaining much you could bowl, play darts, play pool and most of those abstractions don't need to exist with the Vive.
Grab by your hip to pull a gun, grab by your back to pull a sword. Reload by releasing a virtual magazine into your virtual gun.
All that stuff used to be taken care of by a separate button and now you would play those sorts of games or take those actions just like you would in real life.
Disc wars could completely exist in a large enough tracking space with basically 0 abstractions (You'd probably need some tracked ankle bracelets I suppose.)
Compsiox
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6.5 feet
:/ Then I need to find one of these "non drill" solutions as well
Dusktildawn48
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Some guy on YouTube did a bunch of different heights and found out as long as they see you there isn't much difference. There shouldn't be any occlusion as long as they see the headset
Look up vr mythbusting and the uploader is Brad Lynch I believe. Can't link it myself right now
viveks86
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You should be fine.
Nice. Putting this on my wishlist for later.
qa_engineer
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Good for you! Looks like you lucked out with a glitch in their ordering system.
Whoa. I checked the pre-order page and it looks like its back to may shipments, definitely got lucky. SCORE!
The reason a high mounting position is suggested is so that the line of sight between the lighthouses is never interrupted. This is so that the synchronization pulse makes it through.
From tests it turned out that in most setups it still works just as well if the pulse is reflected off something, but it's better to be on the safe side if at all possible.
From tests it turned out that in most setups it still works just as well if the pulse is reflected off something, but it's better to be on the safe side if at all possible.
So not worth trying it out? Refreshing since 3 minutes.
qa_engineer
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Yeah, I wouldn't push it at this point.
I want it sooooo badly! Last time I was that hyped was before the Halo 3 release. May is so far away :O
One question though. Do I have to recalibrate it each time while switching vom seated setup to room scale? I mean my desk is a virtual wall in room scale mode but I want also to play games like Elite.
One question though. Do I have to recalibrate it each time while switching vom seated setup to room scale? I mean my desk is a virtual wall in room scale mode but I want also to play games like Elite.
CarbonFire
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Question about the Lighthouses for anyone who has set them up or knows about them....Do they have to be pointed directly at each other in order to sync properly, or can they be at different angles as long as they can sort of see each other? I have a space I'm planning on using for roomscale, but I'd also like to be able to use the Vive on my desk for seated/cockpit games, which is slightly off to the side of this VR area.
Here's a rough approximation of what I'd like to do:
X is where I would sit at my desk. Any issues with this setup in syncing or tracking, or should I be golden? Both of the lighthouses will be mounted high, ~7ft high on the walls. Tried to be conservative with the FOV of the lighthouses, but I've heard that they spread a pretty wide beam.
Here's a rough approximation of what I'd like to do:
X is where I would sit at my desk. Any issues with this setup in syncing or tracking, or should I be golden? Both of the lighthouses will be mounted high, ~7ft high on the walls. Tried to be conservative with the FOV of the lighthouses, but I've heard that they spread a pretty wide beam.
Zalusithix
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You are being far too conservative, the lighthouse FoV is 120° horizontally and vertically. (Like this)
And no, as far as I understand the principle (and I hope I do, I spent a lot of time reading about them) they don't need to face each other directly.
They don't have to face each other directly, but his setup leaves a corner of the play area tracked by only one lighthouse. That's a no-go. Either the lighthouse needs to be angled to not hit the desk, or the play area has to be shrunk or flipped 90 degrees. Also, the desk area is tracked from behind. That's not going to be useful with the Vive if he plans on using it facing the monitor.
Edit: Actually might catch the edges of the headset's sensors at the desk at any rotation, but it's closer to theoretical maximums than I'd want for an ideal placement.
DouglasteR
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Question about the Lighthouses for anyone who has set them up or knows about them....Do they have to be pointed directly at each other in order to sync properly, or can they be at different angles as long as they can sort of see each other? I have a space I'm planning on using for roomscale, but I'd also like to be able to use the Vive on my desk for seated/cockpit games, which is slightly off to the side of this VR area.
Here's a rough approximation of what I'd like to do:
X is where I would sit at my desk. Any issues with this setup in syncing or tracking, or should I be golden? Both of the lighthouses will be mounted high, ~7ft high on the walls. Tried to be conservative with the FOV of the lighthouses, but I've heard that they spread a pretty wide beam.
No, i setup them almost off angle (from facing each other) and works great.
It doesn't really, his illustration uses too small FoV angles for the lighthouses.
Sleeping Lesson
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Now thinking about my theoretical setup, my ceiling fan might be exactly between my lighthouses. Shit.
CarbonFire
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I'll readily admit that it's not an ideal setup, just trying to figure out if I can kill two birds with one stone. Otherwise I'll just have to sit on my couch for all my seated VR experiences, which will work, but won't be as ideal for HOTAS/Wheel cockpit games for me.
And if Durante's 120° FOV for the lighthouses is correct (I'm sure it is
), that would only leave a tiny corner of that space to only 1 lighthouse, so I'm not too worried.
Zalusithix
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Looks like 120 degrees to me being used in that image. At least if my paper method is holding up here at work lol.
Is there any reason the lower lighthouse can't just be placed in the lower corner of the room where the desk is?I'll readily admit that it's not an ideal setup, just trying to figure out if I can kill two birds with one stone. Otherwise I'll just have to sit on my couch for all my seated VR experiences, which will work, but won't be as ideal for HOTAS/Wheel cockpit games for me.
And if Durante's 120° FOV for the lighthouses is correct (I'm sure it is
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