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[Weebos]

If they figure out a trade in program I would probably jump on it.

I'm not buying a second PS4 anytime soon.

 

[Demanufacture]

Is it wrong I can't stop watching that?

yes go outside!

 

[shandy706]

LOL at people saying they're moving to PC.

You guys do know that PC gaming updates faster than consoles right? You're gonna be forking out more or same in the long run.

I haven't updated my i7 in 8 years

 

[NullPointer]

I don't know how anyone can agree with the sacrifices part.

One thing is getting the standard 1080p30fps game and then ps4k getting whatever they want, I would be ok with this because ps4k is not fucking with me and my purchase.

But sacrifices sound like I'm going to start getting gimped games ala shadow of mordor oldgen and that's ridiculous. If that happens I'm so fucking done.

As soon as we see 30fps games on the PS4K we'll see obvious performance sacrifices on the PS4 versions. Extra power doesn't solve the problem of companies releasing unfinished and unoptimized games that try to do too much.

 

[huh1678]

Deep down, the giveaway for this being game....?

 

[MonkeyMan29]

Well... Again, once it's confirmed, I'm out. I've already been looking into building a PC. It's the better idea.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

It should actually be called PS$ 2K because these specs wont do shit to run games at 4k resolutions decently

 

[Gamezone]

I hope Microsoft do the same thing.

 

[LiK]

is 4K really that good, don't go into best buy or target that much lately to check out tv's or know anyone that owns a 4K tv

how much better is it?

if you have 4K content, it looks amazing. you can see samples at stores.

 

[Elandyll]

Inc Ars Technica / Verge article about this thread, which will then have its own thread

 

[Platinum_D]

All i can say is BOOM

 

[Ikuu]

Bloodborne 2 to run at 30FPS on PS4k and 10 on PS4

 

[Luschient]

Microsoft reading these comments like

 

[Loudninja]

Parsing who knows what they're talking about from those who do not is the real game.

Ah ok.

 

[nib95]

Damn. I'm actually kind of hyped for a more powerful PS4, especially one that upgrades the CPU (and GPU? neat)

So Deep Down was waiting for that higher power.

I'm terms of tflops, something like the R9 380X.

 

[FrozenCell]

I guess Dolby Vision or at least HDR10 is a given since games internally already render at HDR

Auro 3D & Atmos would benefit games aswell and guide many of us to upgrade our sound setups

however it would be a huge miss for AMD not to push Sony to enable their fresh Freesync-over-HDMI

 

[rambis]

Wow this sounds like such a big fuck you to current PS4 owners.

How?

 

[kadab]

 

[Nirolak]

All of the "NX here I come", "PC here I come" people are confusing me.

We don't even know what NX is, and it's not as if PC's are future proof either. I smell a culture of moral panic here, when really, when this thing is revealed, it will be nowhere near as bad as some of you think.

That one makes me laugh a bit given I'm setting up to entirely replace my 2012 computer this year to take advantage of all the games pushing their graphics forward.

If people want the static PC experience, keeping the regular PS4 for the full six years should fit. It will just be like playing on low to medium settings.

 

[Jonboy]

What really frustrates me (if this is true) is the open admission that devs are already making games for the new hardware and that "sacrifices will have to be made to get the games running on the old hardware".

That just ain't right.

But sacrifices are already being made. Look at games like Witcher and the Division running on PC and then compare to PS4/XB1.

 

[Calm waterfall]

This.

Sony needs to ignore the fps whiners. PS4's graphics are more than good enough for 5 years.

I am pretty sure the upgrade is made just to give PSVR a performance boost, and to make PSVR more competitive with Oculus and Vive.

 

[Kralamoonard]

Want to elaborate?

"Keeping things the same and traditional"

I'm pretty sure that was about used games and DRM specifically - not this shit.

 

[AltissimaRatio]

iam not shure if the Translation will work but here in Germany theres a Saying: If the Donkey feels too well he steps on the frozen Lake

 

[Camp1nCarl]

Also there was talk of some sort of VR lounge for the media player app which is supposed to be getting a substantial upgrade.

It was also stated that these games will in fact work for the PS4 but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.
We were also given a list of games that will be available at launch that will directly take advantage of the PS4K where the differences are and I will quote him "Significant."

For the PSVR

Eve Valkyrie
Robinson
GT Sport

For the PS4K

Deep Down (Thought this was dead)
GOW4 (This was the exact abbreviation on the sheet I can only assume its god of war 4)

Wow. 100% not purchasing PSVR now if it's going to run like crap on my normal PS4 and future games might only be PS4K exclusive.

Honestly, this is quite troublesome news. If it simply played 4k movies and up-scaled games that's fine, but future games potentially running terribly on my normal PS4 is no bueno.

 

[omonimo]

Is there a penis hole in this thing? It's the minimum for 499$.

 

[Bl@de]

I love how everyone ignores GOW4 and Deep Down. These announcements alone are enough for GAF to go crazy. But now ... Not so much xD

 

[The Last One]

Some games, BIG games, could also be PS4K exclusive.

Like...just imagine how much hell there'd be IF (MAJOR hypothetical here) something like GTA6 was PS4K/XB1.2 exclusive. The market would be destroyed if that happened.

Yeah, the most mainstream game of the industry going exclusive to the models that only the hardcore will buy.

Rockstar would love to do that.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

LOL at people saying they're moving to PC.

You guys do know that PC gaming updates faster than consoles right? You're gonna be forking out more or same in the long run.

Because pc games cost less? You can spend 2x+ on hardware for pc and come far ahead.

 

[iceatcs]

Get Vive and full PSVR for about £1300 with a free Rift if it come this year, damn, but fuck it, I'm in if VR success really well in first 6 months.

 

[TheHighFlyingBirds]

My concern is it'll be like hyrule warriors which seemed designed for new 3ds primarily and runs like shit on og 3ds.

This. Devs will concentrate on the new machine and optimise to get it as shiny as possible and the OG version will be pretty much ignored provided it runs without bricking your machine.

Would say I'll wait till ps5 but whats stopping that being replaced 3 years later by ps5k? Not liking the idea of iterations with short cycles and no upgrade options.

 

[WolvenOne]

If true, not exactly a surprise.

Clock speed bumps and adding another GPU are pretty much all they could do without potentially creating big backwards compatability issues.

 

[Wolfie5]

If true, I just might buy it for the 4K blu-ray player alone. Depends on how good it is of course.

Are the rumors/leaks saying release this year?

Man, so much hardware stuff that might release this year... PS4K, VR, NX, Xbox one+

 

[LiquidMetal14]

If this is true, Fuck Sony.

The Ps4 is doing fine why are they going to mess with that with this bullshit?

If it doesn't affect you and can still play less flashy PS4 games vs a more powerful PS4 then why would this elicit extremist reaction?

I'd welcome every console manufacturer do this with reason. Don't alienate the user base and just program different fov or detail values as well as resolution and you're set.

I'd consider trading in my PS4 for this.

Hell I upgrade or build a new PC every year for thousands.

 

[Jarmel]

I think it's also worth highlighting the precedent that this will set in that a potential console purchaser now knows that their console will be outdated in X/2 number of years.

 

[Bluforce]

I don't like stuff like this. Console must remain the same for an entire generation.

So, bye bye console world. (Nintendo please don't do this )

 

[YuriLowell]

LOL at people saying they're moving to PC.

You guys do know that PC gaming updates faster than consoles right? You're gonna be forking out more or same in the long run.

Games are way cheaper on PC.
Thats where you make up the difference.

 

[Caronte]

LOL at people saying they're moving to PC.

You guys do know that PC gaming updates faster than consoles right? You're gonna be forking out more or same in the long run.

You don't need to replace your entire PC every 3 years.

 

[Fhtagn]

At this point, half the games that I bought a PS4 for are already out (Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3), so I'm only remotely interested near launch if those games get a performance boost patch.

To be honest, a new console gen cycle:
- that's ~6 years total
- that has a performance boost slim version 3 years in
- But all games run on both systems
- And then the next proper gen is a new baseline for game dev...

Makes sense to me. Sucks if you've just bought a console with the old style cycle in mind but times are changing...

 

[KefkaPalazzo]

$500 without a trade in program?

Sony can't really think that's going to have wide market appeal outside of the more avid gamer demographic, can they? Let's hope MS isn't going the same way if this is true.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

I think the most shocking part here is that Deep Down is still alive tbh

 

[Obliterator]

How I know this isn't a joint effort April's Fool joke from the higher ups at NeoGaf?

That would be............pretty rude to be honest. Like really messed up and not something I think the mods would do. Purposefully spreading false info on the forum is hella looked down upon and would be really messed up coming from the mods themselves.

So I'm sure you can trust this

 

[Wereroku]

It won't be 60 vs. 30 as that would essentially require some studios to make two separate games.

Why multiplatform games already do this on console vs pc? People keep acting like this is something strange but this is just like putting a new gpu in your pc. The old gpu will still work just with medium settings. However some of the vr games may be exclusive since it needs so much more power for some of them.

 

[-Horizon-]

The best is back from the grave

 

[Duxxy3]

They are literally doing the same thing

I've heard Phil talk vaguely about upgrades, but has there been anything about an XB1.5?

There's been plenty of talk about the PS4k. Maybe I missed the rumors around an XB1.5.

 

[Chamber]

Let me pre-order this, Sony.

 

[Stealthcobra]

I'm in. Can't wait to buy it..

 

[Jack The Nipper]

So if sony goes first, the next xbox upgrade will probably be more powerful?

 

[Chopper]

I'm calling fake. This would be the dumbest and most unnecessary thing Sony could do when they're already making so much money with the standard PS4.

Not saying the OP is a liar, but I'll bet this is either misinformation or something that gets cancelled.


Just so, so stupid.

It's definitely real, I'm afraid.

 

[Matt]

Lots of interesting responses here.

 

[GasProblem]

Yeah, no trust in games running reasonably on the old PS4. And I don't have the money to upgrade to a PS4K, hell, the games alone are expensive enough.

If it wasn't for FFXV, Persona 5, Star Ocean, Mass Effect Andromeda and DQXI I'd sell my PS4. Don't have a good PC either.

Maybe Ill need to buy just the NX handheld and forget about the rest.