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[orochi91]

I got the 20th Anniversary PS4 so I am probably never going to sell that lol.

I'd probably never take that thing out of the box.

Too valuable, lol

You sold your PS4 possibly a year early. I assume you have something to play games on?

Got my trusty PS3 and a bevy of emulators on my computer to tide me over.

I'm hoping PS4K launches with a White SKU, I've had black consoles all my life, but I'd like to own a white one at least once.

 

[EventHorizon]

When someone buys that console, and it proves a success, it'll probably be more acceptable to many to have that power eclipsed by a competitor than by the original company. It's in essence removing its own unique selling point, and one that - with knowledge of console generation cycles - one might've assumed to remain in place for a few more years.

That is a lot of assumptions, and even if true (which I doubt) would apply to an incredibly small number of people, who would not make any difference in sales. The people who bought the PS4 already, own the console and thus aren't in the market for a new one. Because of this even if they did get upset, they aren't a lost sale. After the PS4K comes out then anybody who would care about owning the best console would simply get the PS4K.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Just like with my 4K threads in 2012 they thought I was crazy when I made the GPGPU thread in 2011

could Next Gen see 1 of the biggest improvements between console gens do to GPGPUs?


I'm a Jr because people didn't understand yet & now we are right back to talking about the stuff that got me Jr'ed years ago

That's some mindfuck shit right there.

This is exactly why I sold it now.

When PS4K gets officially announced, the used market will be flooded with vanilla PS4s.

I managed to get $400 on a 2 year old PS4.

PS4K official announcement would lower that resale value by quite a bit.

You must've either lucked out and sold to an....uninformed.....person or that's a loaded/cracked PS4.

Spoiler

Or they live in Canada or Brazil

 

[orochi91]

Just like with my 4K threads in 2012 they thought I was crazy when I made the GPGPU thread in 2011

could Next Gen see 1 of the biggest improvements between console gens do to GPGPUs?


I'm a Jr because people didn't understand yet & now we are right back to talking about the stuff that got me Jr'ed years ago

You were ahead of your time, onQ123.

Contact a mod, maybe they'll restore your member status now that all this news is breaking out.

This man has a good plan. That's pretty good you got rid of it for $400. Man my ps3 backlog is so heavy. Thanks for the reminder.

I've got three PS3 JRPGs in particular that I haven't finished/started: Resonance of Fate, Eternal Sonata and Folklore.

Now is the time to rectify that.

:3

 

[joecanada]

Time to tackle that PS3 backlog in the meantime.

T_T

$400 for a launch unit was too tempting to pass on.

Blech id do the same but bf4 on ps3 is ugly as sin... I'll probably end up giving my ps4 to brother in law so I guess I'll just eat full PS4K price lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Just like with my 4K threads in 2012 they thought I was crazy when I made the GPGPU thread in 2011

could Next Gen see 1 of the biggest improvements between console gens do to GPGPUs?


I'm a Jr because people didn't understand yet & now we are right back to talking about the stuff that got me Jr'ed years ago

onQdammus123

 

[Glorified G]

Sold my PS4 for $400, and I was gifted $60 worth of Walmart giftcards.

I have ~$500 ready for PS4K at this moment, so I hope it isn't that much more expensive here in Canada.

Sony priced PSVR bundle$499 USD and $699 CDN (crap dollar + Sony tax). Depending on where you live in Canada you could pay close to $800 total with taxes.

Could've just waited to they announce it bro.

 

[z1ggy]

This is exactly why I sold it now.

When PS4K gets officially announced, the used market will be flooded with vanilla PS4s.

I managed to get $400 on a 2 year old PS4.

PS4K official announcement would lower that resale value by quite a bit.

What if they never release it

 

[Silent Hill]

So is it not releasing this year now?

 

[orochi91]

What if they never release it

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

 

[AZUMIKE]

You are going to be waiting a while for that ps4k

A year isn't that long...

 

[DeepEnigma]

What if they never release it

Then he has money to buy a reduced PS4 and UC4?

 

[z1ggy]

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

It could exist but they might not release it

 

[CosmicQueso]

Orochi91 will end up with a new tag out of this.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I've seen like 2 other people on Neogaf say the same thing. It amuses me considering this thing may not come out to spring-fall 2017. Guess they really trying to get in that trade in value while they sill can.

I traded mine in the day this thread was made. I think in the last year I only used it to play Fallout 4 and MGSV, both of which I could have played on my XB1 anyways. Never cared much for Uncharted and it could be released by the time Persona comes out so I think I'll be fine.

Locking in the value now is more important to me.

 

[Muzicfreq]

What if they never release it

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

Was going to ask the same thing since people are going nuts and selling their stuff off already

 

[Crimson_Gold]

It could exist but they might not release it

Oh no, it's coming. This thing is gonna be a vue, uhd, 4k media beast. You'll see.

 

[Glorified G]

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

.

 

[Corto]

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

Too late! Muahuahua ok guys we did it! We made orochi sell his PS4. Haha mission accomplished! Mods can close the thread now. Thanks kotaku, wsj and Osiris, zoetis and I'm sure I'm forgetting some people that helped with this prank, but thanks everybody.

 

[orochi91]

Orochi91 will end up with a new tag out of this.

Was going to ask the same thing since people are going nuts and selling their stuff off already

.

Faith in Sony.

Y'all have none.

 

[th4tguy]

Just waiting for ps4k to come out and all it does is allow use of psvr without the extra brick and upscale games to 4K without any other boost to visuals, perf, or native res.

 

[Muzicfreq]

That would be embarrassing as fuck.

If PS4K doesn't exist, and that all this turns out to be false rumour/trolling, then I can never trust the Internet again.

D:

Also a way of life that's much better is to live being skeptical of rumors.
Would have waited for Sony to say something

 

[DeepEnigma]

Too late! Muahuahua ok guys we did it! We made orochi sell his PS4. Haha mission accomplished! Mods can close the thread now. Thanks kotaku, wsj and Osiris, zoetis and I'm sure I'm forgetting some people that helped with this prank, but thanks everybody.

Okay. This made me crack the hell up during a scene of Daredevil on Netflix (in 4K ) that I should not have, lol.

 

[Prisoner KSC2-303]

That is a lot of assumptions, and even if true (which I doubt) would apply to an incredibly small number of people, who would not make any difference in sales. The people who bought the PS4 already, own the console and thus aren't in the market for a new one. Because of this even if they did get upset, they aren't a lost sale. After the PS4K comes out then anybody who would care about owning the best console would simply get the PS4K.

I think you underestimate just how many casuals place a great emphasis on owning the more advanced console; people for whom, "simply" buying a PS4k isn't an option. They won't be lost sales now, but shorter cycles, be they iterative or generational, place a seed of doubt in the consumer's mind. Some times it works, and the market increases as everyone wants to stay up to date, and other times it means people wait too long before upgrading. I guess only time will tell.

 

[MADGAME]

Too late! Muahuahua ok guys we did it! We made orochi sell his PS4. Haha mission accomplished! Mods can close the thread now. Thanks kotaku, wsj and Osiris, zoetis and I'm sure I'm forgetting some people that helped with this prank, but thanks everybody.

Masterful.

 

[pixellated_man]

The latest news from Osirisblack about the release date being possibly next year is encouraging. Releasing it this year around the same time as PSVR was the only real issue I had with this proposed ps4 upgrade. A lot of people were threatening to cancel their psvr preorders earlier because they were unwilling / couldn't invest in two expensive gaming devices releasing within a few weeks or months of each other. Totally sensible for people to decide that too.
Really hope Osiris's source is correct and the ps4k is released no earlier than March next year.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The latest news from Osirisblack about the release date being possibly next year is encouraging. Releasing it this year around the same time as PSVR was the only real issue I had with this proposed ps4 upgrade. A lot of people were threatening to cancel their psvr preorders earlier because they were unwilling / couldn't invest in two expensive gaming devices releasing within a few weeks or months of each other. Totally sensible for people to decide that too.
Really hope Osiris's source is correct and the ps4k is released no earlier than March next year.

Yeah, at best, make it Fall 2017 so developers get more time to flesh out the quality for both consoles, and PSVR doesn't get overshadowed by PS4K, and vice versa. Fall 2017 with a pricedrop on OG PS4 is the way to go. Everyone talks about Apple and their iterative cycle, but they always drop the price on the older hardware model. Sony should do the same.

Don't force a 3 year cycle. 4 years is more doable.

 

[Boke1879]

The latest news from Osirisblack about the release date being possibly next year is encouraging. Releasing it this year around the same time as PSVR was the only real issue I had with this proposed ps4 upgrade. A lot of people were threatening to cancel their psvr preorders earlier because they were unwilling / couldn't invest in two expensive gaming devices releasing within a few weeks or months of each other. Totally sensible for people to decide that too.
Really hope Osiris's source is correct and the ps4k is released no earlier than March next year.

Yep. People are essentially making decisions off speculation. Which is ok if you want to get top dollar now, but most people should honestly wait for an official announcement.

I got rid of my PSVR preorder because I'm spending over $300 for a video game lol

 

[davitpr]

This is exactly why I sold it now.

When PS4K gets officially announced, the used market will be flooded with vanilla PS4s.

I managed to get $400 on a 2 year old PS4.

PS4K official announcement would lower that resale value by quite a bit.

 

[EASTC0AST_GH05T]

Just like with my 4K threads in 2012 they thought I was crazy when I made the GPGPU thread in 2011

could Next Gen see 1 of the biggest improvements between console gens do to GPGPUs?


I'm a Jr because people didn't understand yet & now we are right back to talking about the stuff that got me Jr'ed years ago

The Prophet

 

[orochi91]

Yeah, at best, make it Fall 2017 so developers get more time to flesh out the quality for both consoles, and PSVR doesn't get overshadowed by PS4K, and vice versa. Fall 2017 with a pricedrop on OG PS4 is the way to go. Everyone talks about Apple and their iterative cycle, but they always drop the price on the older hardware model. Sony should do the same.

Don't force a 3 year cycle. 4 years is more doable.

If it launches fall 2017, how far back do you think they'll push the PS5?

2021 for the next big leap seems so...distant.

 

[El_Chino]

I still think it'll release this holiday with PS5 releasing 2019

 

[Averon]

If this thing not launching until March 2017 at the earliest, then I don't expect any announcement at E3. PSX in December would be the soonest we'd hear something official.

 

[SDCowboy]

Where is this March '17 stuff coming from?

 

[pixellated_man]

A Q3/Q4 2017 release will also reduce a lot of the complaints along the lines of 'they're releasing a new console just when the ps4 has hit it's stride' and 'scummy of Sony to rake in the holiday sales before telling us about their new ps4'.
Reveal it E3 2017, release it around September / Oct 2017 and use this time to observe / learn / react to what the competition offers and make the best use of the technology available to make a really worth while jump at the best price possible.

Sony, I know you got your peeps reading this thread and you know I am making too much sense, so don't go ignoring my advice, ya hear?

 

[SDCowboy]

A Q3/Q4 2017 release will also reduce a lot of the complaints along the lines of 'they're releasing a new console just when the ps4 has hit it's stride' and 'scummy of Sony to rake in the holiday sales before telling us about their new ps4'.
Reveal it E3 2017, release it around September / Oct 2017 and use this time to observe / learn / react to what the competition offers and make the best use of the technology available to make a really worth while jump at the best price possible.

Sony, I know you got your peeps reading this thread and you know I am making too much sense, so don't go ignoring my advice, ya hear?

Q4 of 2017 would be the console's 5th holiday season. At that point, they may as well release it as a full on PS5 as it's neared a full traditional console cycle.

 

[El_Chino]

Q4 of 2017 would be the console's 5th holiday season. At that point, they may as well release it as a full on PS5 as it's neared a full traditional console cycle.

This is exactly why I think it's gonna release this year. March seems like an odd time to release a console.

 

[onQ123]

I still think it'll release this holiday with PS5 releasing 2019

I don't see a PS5 coming before 2020. I see PSVR standalone coming around that time or a PS4 that's upgraded to serve a wireless PSVR.

 

[Lockjaw333]

Yeah, at best, make it Fall 2017 so developers get more time to flesh out the quality for both consoles, and PSVR doesn't get overshadowed by PS4K, and vice versa. Fall 2017 with a pricedrop on OG PS4 is the way to go. Everyone talks about Apple and their iterative cycle, but they always drop the price on the older hardware model. Sony should do the same.

Don't force a 3 year cycle. 4 years is more doable.

To be real, last gen's 7 year cycle was way too long. I think a 4 year cycle is more like what it should be.

Especially with both consoles starting comparatively weaker hardware wise than last gen, I think a 5 year cycle was in the cards. The new iterations from each company (reportedly ) are probably due to each realizing that even making it to 5 years was not going to cut it, especially with how quickly pc tech is improving (at least gpu wise).

Just release the ps5 in fall 2017. 4 years. To soften the shock to the console system with the short cycle, make it fully backwards compat with ps4 games, with optimization for each console. Just make ps4k the ps5.

 

[SDCowboy]

I don't see a PS5 coming before 2020. I see PSVR standalone coming around that time or a PS4 that's upgraded to serve a wireless PSVR.

I sure as heck hope we aren't in for another 7-8 year console cycle, personally.

 

[El_Chino]

I don't see a PS5 coming before 2020. I see PSVR standalone coming around that time or a PS4 that's upgraded to serve a wireless PSVR.

This generation won't last as long as the last one.

 

[Eolz]

I don't see a PS5 coming before 2020. I see PSVR standalone coming around that time or a PS4 that's upgraded to serve a wireless PSVR.

I sure as heck hope we aren't in for another 7-8 year console cycle, personally.

Yep. Even if the PS4 and PS4k are both massive successes, I can assure you they won't wait until 2020 for their next console (whether it's another evolution or PS5)...

 

[CariusD]

I hope that it is based off of the Polaris chips. If the 2X is just GFlops then the boosts from the 2 generations of geometry improvements, the delta compressor to help with bandwidth, and shader improvements will help make for some big jumps.

 

[Nightengale]

If I looks at the landscape of competition and timing, I feel like this is the ideal timeline for Sony.

2013 :
- PS4

(3yr gap - mid gen cycle)

2016 :
- PS4K (new status quo of mid-gen new hardware)
- PSVR ( establishing new platform alongside competition in same year )


(3yr gap - end gen cycle)

2019 :
- PS5 ( new gen console, backward compatible with all PS4 features and software)
- PSVR2 ( new gen VR platform for PS5 & PC )


So a 6 year console cycle, with an upgrade path every 3 years. A 2019 generation upgrade also makes the PSVR iteration faster, and not have to lag behind competition too long as other companies are seemingly primed to do 2-3 year upgrade cycles.

 

[El_Chino]

If I looks at the landscape of competition and timing, I feel like this is the ideal timeline for Sony.

2013 :
- PS4

(3yr gap - mid gen cycle)

2016 :
- PS4K (new status quo of mid-gen new hardware)
- PSVR ( establishing new platform alongside competition in same year )


(3yr gap - end gen cycle)

2019 :
- PS5 ( new gen console, backward compatible with all PS4 features and software)
- PSVR2 ( new gen VR platform for PS5 & PC )

I couldn't agree more with this. Seems like good timing.

 

[onQ123]

I sure as heck hope we aren't in for another 7-8 year console cycle, personally.

Might be 10, Sony & MS got what they wanted with the gaming public they have locked into their ecosystem & the multimedia market don't need for the consoles to be super powerful & this upgrade to 4K is going to keep PS4 above the standard tech level of most people for a few years.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Just like with my 4K threads in 2012 they thought I was crazy when I made the GPGPU thread in 2011

could Next Gen see 1 of the biggest improvements between console gens do to GPGPUs?


I'm a Jr because people didn't understand yet & now we are right back to talking about the stuff that got me Jr'ed years ago

Damn you should get un-juniored for that there's really interesting stuff in that thread. I wouldn't mind if you made more threads like those. You should at least get a tag

 

[Elitist1945]

Just realized this'll probably cost the same/similar to standalone 4K blu-ray players so this is a pretty good deal if you're looking for a 4K player or console...or both!

 

[ZehDon]

If I looks at the landscape of competition and timing, I feel like this is the ideal timeline for Sony.

2013 :
- PS4

(3yr gap - mid gen cycle)

2016 :
- PS4K (new status quo of mid-gen new hardware)
- PSVR ( establishing new platform alongside competition in same year )


(3yr gap - end gen cycle)

2019 :
- PS5 ( new gen console, backward compatible with all PS4 features and software)
- PSVR2 ( new gen VR platform for PS5 & PC )

The problem with this kind of time line, with dual hardware launches, is the amount of money Sony's base has to spend on new hardware. There's a reason they don't want a repeat of FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE. The console consumer market can only sustain so much. In your time line, those new hardware launches are going to cannibalise one another, lowering adoption rates across the board. Sony have been in the consumer hardware business for decades - they're not going to put themselves in a position where their hardware is competing against one another for your money, when the idea is to get everyone on board. If - and I'm not convinced yet - we see an honest, upgraded PS4, it'll be after the PSVR is on the shelves and had time to sell. "Better VR" is a marketing term people might understand and buy into, if VR is out and people have had a reasonable chance to experience it, to understand what "better VR" might look like.

 

[FullMetaltech]

If I looks at the landscape of competition and timing, I feel like this is the ideal timeline for Sony.

2013 :
- PS4

(3yr gap - mid gen cycle)

2016 :
- PS4K (new status quo of mid-gen new hardware)
- PSVR ( establishing new platform alongside competition in same year )


(3yr gap - end gen cycle)

2019 :
- PS5 ( new gen console, backward compatible with all PS4 features and software)
- PSVR2 ( new gen VR platform for PS5 & PC )


So a 6 year console cycle, with an upgrade path every 3 years. A 2019 generation upgrade also makes the PSVR iteration faster, and not have to lag behind competition too long as other companies are seemingly primed to do 2-3 year upgrade cycles.

Seems like the way to go.