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Stellaris - Paradox Dev Studios new sci-fi grand strategy game
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Octavianus
Banned
That planet nearest to the black hole that's being broken up by it is a really nice touch. Did not expect the galaxy generation to be that detailed.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Unless it was some kind of black hole weapon it doesn't make a ton of sense, imo. You can have a stable orbit around a black hole as you can a star or any other large mass object, a planet sufficiently close to get partially sucked in wouldn't have survived very long in cosmic terms. If a star collapsed into a black hole, the orbit of planets around it would not alter because the hole has the same mass as it did when it was a star.
Octavianus
Banned
I suppose that's true. I still think it's neat from a visual standpoint however and I'm fine with them ignoring realism for the sake of style in this case.
Who knows, maybe it will degrade further over time?
Who knows, maybe it will degrade further over time?
motorised mallard
Member
But it looks cool.
Poodlestrike
Banned
"In cosmic terms" is the key phrase there, imo. With FTL travel, no reason you couldn't stumble across a system where the planet is the process of being sucked in.
With the whole "ripping holes in reality" event they've been talking about, a black hole weapon doesn't seem out of the cards.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Maybe the planet was once habitable, and the species that lived there ended up blowing up their planet and turning their star into a black hole.
Octavianus
Banned
Aww yeah. I bet we can develope more advanced ai ships too, which brings me one step closer to recreating something similair to the culture.
LurkerPrime
Member
I just want living ships. Space monsters will always trump technological supremacy.
Well, you're in luck. They showed them off in the Angry Joe video and said there were more in the game.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Those are more actual space monsters than living ships, per se. I want a wholly organic warship option.
Lister
Banned
Like Moya from Farscape! Would definitive be cool.
MrCompletely
Member
The Blorg Friends series has really sold me on this game, it looks incredible! The #5 video is hysterical, love how everyone hates them because they are disgusting fungus. And that one alien race who "forbids their people from making friends". Those guys hosting the series are great at putting a narrative against the gameplay.
Octavianus
Banned
I agree. I love their games but one of the other reasons why I always tune in for Paradox's livestreams is because the people doing the livestreams are genuinely fun to listen to.
Hmm, shouldn't both the worm- and black holes be sphere-shaped?
Agree, this will be the first Paradox game I buy to play immediately. I am thinking a lot about how to set up my first game. Will play as humans and start in Sol-system for sure. But I hope it is possible to extend the phase up to First Contact a bit more than what I have seen, like spending a longer time on scientific discovery and finding strange artefacts near neighbour stars. I want First Contact to feel more special and my feeling is that it would be more realistic not to have it happen so quickly, but who knows? I also hope it will be possible to develop the different means of FTL travel in late game. Such as being able to utilize worm holes despite having spent the majority with e.g. warp. Or if one could trade such knowledge with other empires.
AntiFacebook
Member
Is there a release date? The OP says february 16, but it's clearly incorrect.
May 9th afaik
The black hole maybe but for the worm hole it is how it is usually represented in science (as a pathway between two points in space):
Yeah, but those diagrams are abstractions. They condensed the sphere of the wormhole into a disc because they use the height dimension to visualise the short-cut.
Do we know if we can mod the alien race images? I'm kind of desperate for the Star Trek mod for this...
Yeah I know they have used that well-recognized idea of wormholes, but it is not accurate in three space dimensions. Interstellar have more realistic wormholes with "mouths" being spheres. Not a big deal since the picture you linked is what most think of. Spheres could be saved for modders to work on, although I think most imagine black holes as spheres.
We can. Blorg mod posted earlier has the entire package included. Already seen people starting collecting artwork for various sci-fi mods including Star Trek over on the official forums.
Oh yeah! I am not saying that is exactly how they look in reality, but I think they are going more for the abstraction in this case considering also that Stellaris is played on a 2D plane.
Oh yeah! I am not saying that is exactly how they look in reality, but I think they are going more for the abstraction in this case considering also that Stellaris is played on a 2D plane.
No I thought they displayed in one of their vids that the camera can zoom and spin around, so it should be 3D? Maybe restricted 3D, as in e.g. the new Xcom-games? If I remember the Paradox guy who sits on the right in the videos thought they had a star system within their boundaries and then the one who plays remarked that was not the case because it just looks like that from their perspective and that the map is 3D?
Edit: Yeah you might be right that the gameplay is restricted to a plane as in Xcom.
Right, I meant that while the map and everything is in 3D, the representation of space in gameplay is on a flat plane. Which could be a reason why they decided to go with that kind of look. Though I would prefer for the black hole if they went with the one that NASA has on their site.
Way cooler.
I discovered that the same discussion has taken place on the Paradox forums linked above. Remains to be seen if the devs will adjust anything or leave it for future updates/mods. The Nasa-pic you posted would be ok for binary or multi-star systems, but they do not seem to be in the game (which is perhaps more unrealistic than the occurence of black holes atm). For "lone" black holes I'd prefer some simplified version of the one in Interstellar
Or perhaps simpler this one from Nasa:
For wormholes I'd dream of (even much simplified) versions of the Interstellar one, say with a few templates of images (based e.g. on star color in the system you travel to/from) wrapped around spheres with some distortion look near edges:
That was a fast response to the Blackhole issue
https://twitter.com/rikardaslund/status/718046971584507904
https://twitter.com/rikardaslund/status/718046971584507904
Octavianus
Banned
That was a fast response to the Blackhole issue
https://twitter.com/rikardaslund/status/718046971584507904
Oh, nice. I was fine with what they had before but I like that one a lot.
Souless Squirrel
Member
I'm sure at this point a black hole might make a better friend that most of the races surrounding them. Stream is up woot!
Souless Squirrel
Member
Well that was quick.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Welp, this might be the end of the Blorg.
PROTIP: Don't fuck with Fallen Empires.
PROTIP: Don't fuck with Fallen Empires.
When you're setting up your game if you choose a large galaxy with a small number of AI players it should take quite a lot longer before "first contact". The Blorg streams are being done on a relatively small galaxy, presumably to allow them to do a full game run-through quite a bit more quickly.
On the FTL side of things, they have talked about being able to research the other types later on into the game (and possibly even FTL types not included in the initial three, if I'm not mistaken), so they've got you covered on that front too.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Yeah, you'll potentially be able to branch out into the other FTL types in the mid-late game, presumably by salvaging (or a REALLY lucky draw), and we've seen a 4th type of FTL (the Jump drive) as one of the late-game disaster techs. Apparently, ripping a hole in the universe to move ships around can have side effects. Who knew?
And man, those Fallen Empires are not fucking around, lol.
hobblygobbly
Member
Saw this on reddit, I didn't see it on the stream but someone did and screenshotted it.
A ringworld.
A ringworld.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Saw this on reddit, I didn't see it on the stream but someone did and screenshotted it.
A ringworld.
Ohhhhhh my, that's a hell of a thing.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Heh. Nice.
So, here's a question. So far all the fleets we've seen are pretty much single-design, or single designs for each class. I wonder if there's any benefit to deliberately mixing things up, like having long and short range specialized ships, that sort of thing.
Perfect, thanks for the info!
Interesting stuff, the Fallen Empires sound like the ancients in Stargate.
A ringworld.
Oh yeah! And, they are considering reworking the wormholes as well if they have the time. It is really cool what Paradox are doing here, even if it is perhaps a relatively small fix they get well-deserved praise for redoing the black hole-design. I wish Frontier did more things like this with Elite: Dangerous.
The possibility exists, we have heard about replicator type AI events so the flood isn't out of the question.
LurkerPrime
Member
It needs playable zerg. Live the dream, Paradox!