THR: Warner Bros. Mulls Releasing Fewer Films as 'Batman v. Superman' Stalls
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dave is ok
aztek is ok
Only one way to fix this. Give M Night Shymalan a billion dollars to make whatever he wants
Is not rebooting an option? They already fucked up. If it were me, they would give up the shared universe and make movies independent from each other. They can't catch up to Marvel at this point and the only way to win is not to try.
Not really, I always had the feeling that if it wasn't a good movie than it would do very poorly at the box office and not hit a billion but the sky was the limit if it was great.
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Filming for Justice League starts in 5 days. They need to do something RIGHT NOW or else commit to 2 more potential disasters being helmed by Snyder...
HeartlessNobody213
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I'm not too worried about Suicide Squad. Until WB moves the date, I think it's Wonder Woman that WB needs to worry about.
Coming out a week after Kingsman 2, the same week as Transformers 5, a week before Despicable Me 3, 2 weeks before the new Spider-Man and 3 weeks before the new Planet of The Apes film is not a good release date.
Coming out a week after Kingsman 2, the same week as Transformers 5, a week before Despicable Me 3, 2 weeks before the new Spider-Man and 3 weeks before the new Planet of The Apes film is not a good release date.
Pai Pai Master
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You can't really do that if you hate your characters to the point where the audience ends up hating them too
Wonder Woman feels like it's sort of being sent out to die.
No, its box office is actually pretty disastrous. In no way is this a success.
hodayathink
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My point is that the answer isn't just "make better movies", since even the good movies they do make (Mad Max, Creed) don't/haven't become breakout hits financially. Successful, usually (Mad Max's problem is/was an inflated budget). This goes deeper than that.
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I agree with you, but you just know someone here's gonna take it personally
BobTheFork
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Even if they pin hopes on a 'solo Bat' movie, are they going to resist putting SOME kind of lead-ins to other movies?
I don't see them making another total solo movies and then trying this again.
I don't see them making another total solo movies and then trying this again.
It's going to barely make its budget back when WB expected easily over a billion.
Well I never had that feeling. I thought that a Batman and Superman movie would be one of the easiest billion dollars to ever happen, regardless of quality, considering how iconic and popular they are. WB sure fucked this one up.
nope, as far as I know it's in no way a success considering the massive marketing budget. supposedly it needs to make around $900m to break even, which isn't a certainty at this point.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The movie is horseshit and repeat business is almost negligible compared to similar action/comic book movies, and this should have been the biggest of all time.
I doubt even before this mess that Snyder would have directed JL 2. Four right after another is too much for almost anyone.
This is probably true.
slightconfuse
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Watchmen was good tho
Alex_Mexico
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That was before it got 11 oscar nominations and 6 wins. Even if it wasn't the mega profitable movie it should've been, big studios love the mainstream praise they may get for one of these movies. They live for that shit almost as much as for the big blockbusters.
I'm sure WB was happy with MMFR before the Oscars and it's universal critical acclaim and now more than ever after such a big Oscar bounty.
BadAss2961
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Finaika
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Is that Ben Affleck's cat?
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Isn't filming for JL1 & JL2 being done back to back?
Michael F. Assbender
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This.
It's not the property. It's who's in charge, which includes Snyder and the writers and whoever the fuck edited that piece of shit. Dump them from Justice League and bring in competent people. Fuck the delays. It's more expensive in the long run to finance a boring, confusing mess that'll bomb out of theaters.
Interfectum
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This movie was supposed to be the flagship for a multi-billion dollar shared movie universe. The fact that no only did it get panned critically but it's also falling like a rock in the box office is pretty disastrous for their overall plans.
If it was only about this movie, it would still be bad. But it's now an unstable foundation which WB has to build on.
Gemüsepizza
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- Kick out Snyder
- Delay Justice League
- Rework Justice League: (BvS spoiler)
Voila, DCEU saved. That way they can even keep the same actors.
- Delay Justice League
- Rework Justice League: (BvS spoiler)
Let Batman become the evil ruler of the world because of the deaths of Robin and Superman. When Darkseid invades the world Batman and most of humanity dies because the Justice League wasn't functional. Use time travel to prevent their deaths so that BvS never happened.
Voila, DCEU saved. That way they can even keep the same actors.
NealMcCauley
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The conspiracy theorist in me expects Snyder to have an exhaustion-based health emergency in a month and be removed from directing on doctor's orders while he recovers. WB then "scrambles" to find an already decided upon replacement.
Nemesis121
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They don't have to copy Disney/Marvel to appeal to everyone, just make GOOD movies, comic book movie can be serious and good...Batman is all serious yet BB and TDK are great movies..
That would be insanity
NOLA_Gaffer
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I was actually thinking yesterday about how surreal this all this.
Batman and Superman in one movie should have been an amazing, mindblowing thing. Almost 30 years of buildup leading to one big budget blockbuster that would get all the money and instead it was more or less a wet fart.
How disappointing.
Batman and Superman in one movie should have been an amazing, mindblowing thing. Almost 30 years of buildup leading to one big budget blockbuster that would get all the money and instead it was more or less a wet fart.
How disappointing.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Consider it dead. 1st week of April could be great - it's Smurfs only.
Furious 8 comes the week after. Good way to get another high 60s drop.
2017 schedule is pretty busy year round, but if I was setting Warner Bros' schedule, I would accept that Jungle Book Origins was a destined flop and kick it into Jan 2018. I would then move Wonder Woman to Oct 6th and force Fox to put Gambit (or whatever they had planned for that spot) somewhere else.
Only 1. JL2 is a separate production, one I'm 100% sure won't be helmed by Snyder.
Like I said in one of the BvS threads, they are going to bite the bullet with Snyder's JL. Delaying it and shuffling stuff around would make them even weaker than yet another critically panned tent-pole movie they still have some hopes to course correct. It might still make some money from it, just like with BvS, as opposed to the losses it would generate to basically reboot this universe again.
No. Justice League 1 and 2 are separate stories, not a Part 1 and 2 like we previously thought.
From the Director of BvS and overseen by the hopefully not make it shit team at WB presents Justice League.
They can't escape that so don't try.
I can only think nobody really wants to take on the job at short notice or that would be an even bigger mess and WB think they will get big numbers anyway, even if it means not making a profit then completely cut ties after JL part 1.
They should focus on Suicide Squad, Wonder Women and Batman then see how that works out and consider other solo films like the Flash then Justice League. If Cavill goes on to do Bond, recast Superman. Other alternative just get this era over with, do Justice League, success or fail and start over afterwards with solo films.
Are they filming both Justice League films back to back, that's a huge bet?
They can't escape that so don't try.
I can only think nobody really wants to take on the job at short notice or that would be an even bigger mess and WB think they will get big numbers anyway, even if it means not making a profit then completely cut ties after JL part 1.
They should focus on Suicide Squad, Wonder Women and Batman then see how that works out and consider other solo films like the Flash then Justice League. If Cavill goes on to do Bond, recast Superman. Other alternative just get this era over with, do Justice League, success or fail and start over afterwards with solo films.
Are they filming both Justice League films back to back, that's a huge bet?
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If it makes it seem more plausible, it'll be Mar-Vell instead of Carol.
I'm literally fucking amazed that they planned it this way. BvS comes out, and filming for Justice League starts 3 weeks later.
Like they had a fucking crystal ball and knew Snyder's film would make $1.5 billion and a 94% on RT. Did they even CONSIDER that the film might under perform and they should leave some time between the release of one film and production on the next to, you know, MAYBE MAKE SOME CHANGES if the need came up?
It's crazy to me.
I don't believe so. They're are not a "two-part" film or whatever despite their titles. I could be wrong about the back-to-back thing though, but considering they were supposed to be two years a part, I kinda doubt it.
Edit: The official press release did say Snyder though, so now I feel like an idiot.
Father_Brain
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I'm fully aware where their films are in (pre-)production, though there's still a very slim chance of Snyder being dropped from JL.
The most pertinent question is what they do with their 2018-2020 slate at this point.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Haven't seen the film yet but I will this weekend. It is amazing to me that two of the most iconic comic book heroes are finally in a movie together and it performs like this. This should have been the easiest money of all time.
Inferno313
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The people debunking it are largely not anymore trust-worthy sources than Faraci. The reshoots ARE happening, why though, is a "he-said, she-said" thing right now.
Michael F. Assbender
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That report was later proven false. They had planned pick-ups for this time because the guy playing Croc had to be elsewhere during much of primary shooting. Getting together cast and crew at a later date is a difficult thing to do, even when planned out. It'd be damn near impossible to do it at the drop of a hat just so they could "inject humor" into the film.
ElBoxyBrown
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WB needs money makers RIGHT NOW. Passion projects are made cuz they can afford the loss, if there is one, and still look good. WB ain't lookin too good.
It's not crazy at all. They filmed the LOTR trilogy all at one. What if the first one failed? Of course they did that to save money, so I guess they could've waited?
Lights and Waves
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Hopefully Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and Batman solo all come out before then and shirt the GP's opinion back in DC's favor.
Agreed. His comments about the characters shows a lack of understanding about them anyways though IMO.
What will most likely happen is they keep Snyder but you will have A LOT of studio interference in every process of the film to ensure its maximum marketable and safe. That's going to make a potentially bad situation even worse of course.
Affleck was not the issue with the movie.
Alex_Mexico
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I agree with this. If the sequel to FR has good reviews I can easily see that making double of what FR did on word of mouth and after the critical praise and Oscars 2015's revival had.
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