THR: Warner Bros. Mulls Releasing Fewer Films as 'Batman v. Superman' Stalls
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Inferno313
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Jeff Nichols' The Polar Express is a film I'd watch
Discotheque
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Y'all hipsters are a magical species for sure.
broncobuster
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WB might as well let Jeff Nichols make the from scratch Aquaman he wants.
Alandrus Sun
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By GOD! That movie has a family.
Discotheque
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Wouldn't that be a treat. WB goons just storm into zacks office rummaging through his papers and calling for a code red reboot
Nichols gets the aquaman he was long in the running for with a recast and we find out Kevin spacey was actually eisenbergs father all along in the Justice League film...
Tbh tho as great as Nichols is I don't see how he's a fit for aquaman. I think something so empire oriented and underwater belongs to either the obvious James Cameron or Peter Jackson
I still say hire Raimi/Defoe for a Superman sequel.
PhoncipleBone
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It is okay. Above average at best. I know it is very well regarded on GAF, but I don't understand the extreme love that it receives.
Shit man, you already have it.
Dash_Riprock
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You already have Batman being Murderman and Supes snapping a dude's neck and killing thousands of civilians via not giving a fuck.
What more do you want?
Discotheque
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Superman (well the one people are nostalgic about) is so in Brad Bird or Andrew Stantons wheelhouse imo. After I saw John Carter, as flawed as it was, I could totally see Stanton and giachinno knocking it out of the park
Sam Raimi justice League dark
Edgar Wright flash or spiderman
These would all be God tier.
Frank Miller's Wonder Woman!
(legit shocked they didn't go for it, considering how much Snyder loves Miller's stuff)
ViewtifulJC
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really not sure what the marketing is for Midnght special like or the expansion. It's probably his most mainstream movie but it's still not a big budget kinda film to reach a wide audience. It's probably not gonna break out like Ex Macihina, and it cost $20 million
Idk man...I respect Warner giving out money to everybody, but they don't have the hits to balance out the flops and disappointments. Their big universe starting blockbuster won't even sniff $900 million. not good enough with how much they got invested in that shit.
Idk man...I respect Warner giving out money to everybody, but they don't have the hits to balance out the flops and disappointments. Their big universe starting blockbuster won't even sniff $900 million. not good enough with how much they got invested in that shit.
This panel always makes me LOL.
ItWillGetBetter
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Should it be done? YES! LOTR 4,5,6? YERS! Its like. GTA 3, Vice and SA were perfect. Let em go.
No.
The Last of Us, Uncharted 1-3 were fine. NOPE MAKE MORE!
Who cares? If it turns out bad you just act like it never happened.
But you forgot the rest of what I had said.
Also, it's not a "complete" tale. It's just three well done movies.
Liquidsnake
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Aquaman
Flash
Cyborg are not going to help them any.
Flash
Cyborg are not going to help them any.
Well, for starters, you give it to a guy who fundamentally doesn't understand the characters, still thinks Sucker Punch was too smart for critics, believes that by making Superman a miserable, mopey killjoy that "[he] made Superman real", and says things like "Batman doesn't commit murder; he commits MANSLAUGHTER".
To be fair, the movie is... not the worst film I've ever seen or even the worst superhero movie I ever saw.
But DAMN if it hasn't made me the most disappointed and upset in a very, VERY long time. I haven't felt this upset at the handling of a superhero since Spider-man in One More Day. Just... not understanding the characters at all.
Maybe you're kidding around, but this mindset is silly.
Murder is the killing of innocents. The men Bats killed got what they deserved when they made the choice to SET SOMEONE ON FIRE.
This isn't TAS anymore, Batman isn't facing bank robbers and corrupt politicians. He's dealing with sex slave traders and actual killers. Those types don't deserve the mercy of his no-kill rule.
As for Supes, was he supposed to pick Metropolis in the middle of the fight and move it somewhere else? He can anyone blame him for those killed in the destruction of that fight?
Escape Goat
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Its okay. Nobody likes Cyborg.
Inferno313
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Yikes.
Inb4 A debate about capital punishment.
Also, I didn't realize we could just make up our own definitions for things now.
That's not what murder means.
Murder is the unlawful killing of anyone.
wtf? lmao.
And yeah, Supes absolutely should have flown off somewhere. He gave zero fucks about the people he was killing, so Zod wouldn't have used the ol' hostage trope against him.
Discotheque
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He's talking about comic book murder guys...I hope
xaosslug
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surprised DC hasn't snatched him up for a role in their cinematic uni, tbh. I mean weren't there rumors Marvel had their sights set on him for Cap but he turned them down?
If there was a difference, everyone would be the Punisher :lol
Discotheque
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They practically are in the movies. I felt so bad for those henchman at the start of Cap 2. That shield going at that speed to your face...sudden death
The no kill rule was never about mercy. It was to keep Batman from becoming the very monster he's devoted to defeating. Bruce Wayne doesn't spare villains out of mercy. He spares them to keep himself sane (barely).
Yes, because TAS didn't have actual killers... nope...
Phantasm murdered several criminals (which is why Gordon knew Batman wasn't the killer... because he doesn't kill).
Joker killed plenty of people, and attempted to kill many more.
Zucco killed Robin's parents.
Clayface killed Annie ("add murder to the list of charges" Robin says at the end).
Ra's Al Ghul kills his own daughter to use her body to extend his life.
And dozens upon dozens upon dozens of other criminals attempt to murder and kill throughout the series. There may not be sex trafficking, but there is child slavery, drug running, officers shot, mental and physical abuse galore, poisoning, stabbing, maiming, disfiguring... the show got away with a LOT more than many folks realized, even if the show creators said they couldn't typically show the Joker killing... but they said they certainly could show him TRYING to kill (like taking a guy, locking him in a casket, and tossing him into a vat of acid...)
Welcome to this thread, Zack.
What have I done
Had Supes flown off, wouldn't that had left Metropolis completely defenseless against Zod?
I've brought this up before, but how come no one gets mad at Iron Man or Cap killing bad guys?
Maybe because Batman's no-kill rule isn't as sacred to me as it is to others, but I don't see the difference.
That's addressed in the movie somewhat, no? Bruce's sanity has broken since, I'm guessing, the Robin incident, and it's after the conclusion with his battle against Superman that he's seen the error of his ways. Maybe?
That's my bad then. I was catching up on TAS recently, and the first few episodes of it are straight-up children's cartoons, and I don't mean that as an insult as I was a child when I first watched them.
I'm no law student, of course. I really didn't mean for that to come out as fact but that's my personal stance, and one I take seriously.
Had Supes flown off, wouldn't that had left Metropolis completely defenseless against Zod?
I've brought this up before, but how come no one gets mad at Iron Man or Cap killing bad guys?
Maybe because Batman's no-kill rule isn't as sacred to me as it is to others, but I don't see the difference.
That's addressed in the movie somewhat, no? Bruce's sanity has broken since, I'm guessing, the Robin incident, and it's after the conclusion with his battle against Superman that he's seen the error of his ways. Maybe?
That's my bad then. I was catching up on TAS recently, and the first few episodes of it are straight-up children's cartoons, and I don't mean that as an insult as I was a child when I first watched them.
Holy shit. Are you for fucking real on this?
Batman doesn't kill because he is not lawfully empowered to do so. It would be murder. He doesn't get to make that call. Hell, even BvS brings up that question, although it comes up with the wrong answer.
And I have no idea why you're citing TAS here. TAS dealt with real killers and worse on the regular, and that Batman never felt the need to ramp the Batmobile into a man's skull.
I suggest you stop taking it seriously immediately. Your personal stance is irrelevant in the face of the law and the definition of the word, and that's leaving aside the fact that "innocent" is a completely subjective value judgment. Wow.
Escape Goat
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It's not like that people weren't interested. DC just failed to deliver what most people wanted.
If this studio's analysis is that the problem are the characters and not the creative team, then they deserve to get a hostile takeover by someone more competent.
Batman went from 1b, to struggling to reach 800m with Snyder. That's all they need to know.
Batman went from 1b, to struggling to reach 800m with Snyder. That's all they need to know.
Pop-O-Matic
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Edited to help underline the insanity of this all...
We'll have to agree to disagree on this then. I think Batman, as well Superman in the Africa scene, made the right call.
I'll continue to take it seriously, but I respect your viewpoint.
Now why would you think such a thing
Exactly !
Dash_Riprock
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Wasn't Zod attacking Superman?
Was there, at any point, any attempt by Zod to attack Metropolis in an attempt to lure Superman into a fight?
Zod kicks an oil rig at Superman and instead of stopping it, Superman flies between the thing and lets it explode into a building behind him. There are people all around them the entire time, but they're just scenery and don't play into the fight at all until Supes has to snap Zod's neck. There is never any attempt by Supes to mitigate the damage and loss of life around him. Zod never once looks like he wants to attack Metropolis once he's engaged with Superman.
Well that's...disturbing...
Pop-O-Matic
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Explains why Captain American and Deadpool bombed considering they brought on Johnny Storm #2 & Green Lantern/Dudepeel respectively.
Lol then why didn't Batman never kill the Joker after Jason Todd or Barbara?
So you are actually serious? You believe in actual reality it shouldn't count as murder if a citizen KILLS someone who wasn't "innocent".
People should be able to take the law into their own hands and be legally able to kill those they believe are criminals?
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