G-Sync is the god-level gaming upgrade.

Just got the HP deal with the 980Ti.
I need a monitor.
Narrowed it down to a Acer Predator G-Sync 1980 or aNon G-Sync ASUS IPS 2560.

What does GAF say???
I am leaning towards higher resolution myself, but if I can be convinced the G-Sync is the better purchase, feel free.

And if people can answer in the next hour so I can order in time to have it arrive on Monday that would be ideal.
 
DirtyLarry said:
Just got the HP deal with the 980Ti.
I need a monitor.
Narrowed it down to a Acer Predator G-Sync 1980 or aNon G-Sync ASUS IPS 2560.

What does GAF say???
I am leaning towards higher resolution myself, but if I can be convinced the G-Sync is the better purchase, feel free.

And if people can answer in the next hour so I can order in time to have it arrive on Monday that would be ideal.
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I just got that Acer Predator monitor and it's amazing.

Seriously, 144hz + Gsync is absolutely incredible.

The colors are pretty good to me (although I'm not a snob about that stuff and have never used an IPS monitor).
 
Jedi2016 said:
Why not both?

I've got this one, and it's amazing on both levels. Both G-sync and 1440p are noticeable bumps.. having them together? Awesome.
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Believe me I would love to but that is half the price of the computer I purchased itself. Wife is already not super happy I am looking at $400+ monitors. So it has to be one of the ones I posted or something similar in price. Believe me, I would love this one. Just can't do it.

EDIT - Are there other G-Sync monitors and/or brands I should be considering over this one in the $400 range? Perhaps even $450?
 
Okay I am going to go with a G-Sync it looks like.

I have narrowed it down to 2 Acer's.

The Acer Predator XB241H for $386
or
The Acer XB240H for $445

Not going to lie, I like the look of the second one, the XB240H better.
However if what I am reading correctly, the first one, the 241H, is the latest revision of the monitor? It is also less expensive. So if it is the better revision of this model, I suppose I can live with this ugly ass feet LOL
 
DirtyLarry said:
Okay I am going to go with a G-Sync it looks like.

I have narrowed it down to 2 Acer's.

The Acer Predator XB241H for $386
or
The Acer XB240H for $445

Not going to lie, I like the look of the second one, the XB240H better.
However if what I am reading correctly, the first one, the 241H, is the latest revision of the monitor? It is also less expensive. So if it is the better revision of this model, I suppose I can live with this ugly ass feet LOL
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Dude...

If you're gonna go with a TN panel, you might as well get the Dell 27" S2716DG - Currently $490 (was $600 when I bought it in Dec)

It's a 27" 2560x1440 144hz G-Sync monitor. I returned my Asus PG279Q for this when it first came out. I don't care that it's a TN panel since I bought it for gaming, and it looks incredible. If you can afford to pay a little bit more, go with the Dell.

edit: i should note that this monitor doesn't have speakers, so take that into consideration before you purchase. other than that, it's great.
 
RyudBoy said:
Dude...

If you're gonna go with a TN panel, you might as well get the Dell 27" S2716DG - Currently $490 (was $600 when I bought it in Dec)

It's a 27" 2560x1440 144hz G-Sync monitor. I returned my Asus PG279Q for this when it first came out. I don't care that it's a TN panel since I bought it for gaming, and it looks incredible. If you can afford to pay a little bit more, go with the Dell.

edit: i should note that this monitor doesn't have speakers, so take that into consideration before you purchase. other than that, it's great.
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Damn. You are not making this easy.
Would you believe me if I told you I just think 27" is too big?
I know, I know, no such thing, but this is a very traditional on a desk setup I am rocking, and my current (older) monitor is a 27" one, and perhaps it is the older technology and/or perhaps it is just the technology with the 1080p resolution, but I feel like it is too big in size and I am losing out on seeing the whole picture because it is too big. So I feel like 24" is the sweet spot.
But I can easily be told I am dead wrong and the extra 3 inches are worth it and it will look better than my current monitor because it is a higher resolution.

Other thing to note. I saw this monitor earlier and dismissed it as I did not think it was a G-Sync monitor since it does not mention it in the description itself. But looking over the specs I see it indeed is.

Damn. This could be the winner. It may very well be worth the extra bit of anger my wife will have for spending this much LOL

Or there is always Option B.
I live with my current monitor and wait for something to go on a good sale. Although I get the feeling this Dell is not going to get much better anytime soon.
 
DirtyLarry said:
Damn. You are not making this easy.
Would you believe me if I told you I just think 27" is too big?
I know, I know, no such thing, but this is a very traditional on a desk setup I am rocking, and my current (older) monitor is a 27" one, and perhaps it is the older technology and/or perhaps it is just the technology with the 1080p resolution, but I feel like it is too big in size and I am losing out on seeing the whole picture because it is too big. So I feel like 24" is the sweet spot.
But I can easily be told I am dead wrong and the extra 3 inches are worth it and it will look better than my current monitor because it is a higher resolution.

Other thing to note. I saw this monitor earlier and dismissed it as I did not think it was a G-Sync monitor since it does not mention it in the description itself. But looking over the specs I see it indeed is.

Damn. This could be the winner. It may very well be worth the extra bit of anger my wife will have for spending this much LOL

Or there is always Option B.
I live with my current monitor and wait for something to go on a good sale. Although I get the feeling this Dell is not going to get much better anytime soon.
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Personally I think 27" is too big for a 1080p monitor but if you want 1440p 27" is the sweet spot!
 
Bruno said:
Personally I think 27" is too big for a 1080p monitor but if you want 1440p 27" is the sweet spot!
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Yup. I actually ran the numbers on the new monitor versus the old one, and pixel density was about the same between them, but with a bigger screen! Plus it lets me sit at a comfortable distance and not feel like I'm too far away to see things.
 
Anyone else still waiting on getting one of the 27" (ish) 1440p G-Sync monitors until they have one that actually is consistently built and barely issues of bleed/quality? That's why I'm afraid of spending that much money.
 
I haven't noticed any bleed issues. The power light is too bright, I've got it covered with a small piece of electrical tape. That's the biggest issue I have with it, so I'm quite happy.
 
Think I am going to pull the trigger on the Dell. Very close. This may seem like a silly question but I have to ask. What type of FPS can I expect on that Dell with a 980Ti at native resolution?
Also does GSync rely on one's PSU at all? Reason I ask is my new PC is the HP one people may have seen the thread for and it only came with. 500W PSU. Clearly it is suffice enough for the computer itself but I just want to verify that somehow the PSU does not come into play when utilizing GSync itself. Logic tells me it should not but I just want to be sure.
I am going to check the responses to my questions first thing when I wake up tomorrow and as long as I read I can get at least 60 FPS at native resolution (2560) and the PSU will be fine I am going to pick up the Dell even though my wife is going to not be happy at all. It really does just seem like the best bang for the buck and TN is fine with me. This PC is 110% meant for gaming so response time and input lag does trump all.
TIA and also thanks for the previous replies.
 
DirtyLarry said:
Think I am going to pull the trigger on the Dell. Very close. This may seem like a silly question but I have to ask. What type of FPS can I expect on that Dell with a 980Ti at native resolution?
Also does GSync rely on one's PSU at all? Reason I ask is my new PC is the HP one people may have seen the thread for and it only came with. 500W PSU. Clearly it is suffice enough for the computer itself but I just want to verify that somehow the PSU does not come into play when utilizing GSync itself. Logic tells me it should not but I just want to be sure.
I am going to check the responses to my questions first thing when I wake up tomorrow and as long as I read I can get at least 60 FPS at native resolution (2560) and the PSU will be fine I am going to pick up the Dell even though my wife is going to not be happy at all. It really does just seem like the best bang for the buck and TN is fine with me. This PC is 110% meant for gaming so response time and input lag does trump all.
TIA and also thanks for the previous replies.
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I'm still rocking a 970 until the new Pascal cards are available, so I shouldn't be the one to comment on how a 980ti performs @ 1440p. However, from what I've heard it should run most games maxed out @ 60fps+. Some games still struggle a bit, for example, The Division. With Gsync, you won't even notice the dips at those high frame rates though, so no worries.

Wait until you hear from someone else before you decide, but i think you should be good. :P
 
DirtyLarry said:
Think I am going to pull the trigger on the Dell. Very close. This may seem like a silly question but I have to ask. What type of FPS can I expect on that Dell with a 980Ti at native resolution?
Also does GSync rely on one's PSU at all? Reason I ask is my new PC is the HP one people may have seen the thread for and it only came with. 500W PSU. Clearly it is suffice enough for the computer itself but I just want to verify that somehow the PSU does not come into play when utilizing GSync itself. Logic tells me it should not but I just want to be sure.
I am going to check the responses to my questions first thing when I wake up tomorrow and as long as I read I can get at least 60 FPS at native resolution (2560) and the PSU will be fine I am going to pick up the Dell even though my wife is going to not be happy at all. It really does just seem like the best bang for the buck and TN is fine with me. This PC is 110% meant for gaming so response time and input lag does trump all.
TIA and also thanks for the previous replies.
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I grabbed the Dell after looking at many of these monitors over the last few months. I came up from a VG278h. I currently have a 550w/980ti MSI Golden. If your card works, you're good.

I've been getting 60fps+ with UT, DOOM, Division, most of my steam stuff. It's super responsive. If you have used a TN before, you know what to expect as far as the viewing angles. Completely pleased with my purchase- even after seeing the Acer/Asus in action. Also, XB1 looks good (1080)- the scaling is nice enough too.
 
Damn, I didn't know that Dell had 144hz/g-sync. Why is it like 200 bucks less than the swift rog? That seems like a really good deal, just wish it didn't have what looks like a heavy matte coating.

Well my other monitor shipped but maybe I'll get this one as well and compare em then return one.
 
Stoze said:
Damn, I didn't know that Dell had 144hz/g-sync. Why is it like 200 bucks less than the swift rog? That seems like a really good deal, just wish it didn't have what looks like a heavy matte coating.
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AFAIK it's a TN panel ... which is terrible once you have experienced IPS :(

I'm waiting until 144hz, G-Sync, IPS, WQHD and 27"+ will cost 400€. Then I'll jump in. Right now it's still too expensive.
 
Bl@de said:
AFAIK it's a TN panel ... which is terrible once you have experienced IPS :(

I'm waiting until 144hz, G-Sync, IPS, WQHD and 27"+ will cost 400€. Then I'll jump in. Right now it's still too expensive.
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Regular swift rog (PG278Q) is TN also. The IPS (9Q) one is 300+ more than the Dell, with all the other features basically the same.

I've used IPS quite a bit and it is great, but by itself not $300 more great imo. I think screen coating and good color/contrast are the real differentiator.
 
Noob question:

I got the acer predator 1440p 144hz gsync. I don't really understand how to "use" g sync. Can anyone help explain how to get the most out of my monitor? For reference, i have an i7 980ti so i can usually max everything at 1440p.
 
I just upgraded my computer and have a 980ti and am starting to look into these 1440p 144hz gsync monitors.

There's this one:

Acer Predator XB271HU bmiprz 27-inch WQHD (2560 x 1440) NVIDIA G-Sync Widescreen Display

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0173PEX20/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Expensive for sure. It also says that 144hz is via Display Port only? Is that true? How do I hook this up using my 980ti? Sorry I'm a little bit of a newb.

This monitor may be overkill (well meaning it's expensive haha). What's a comparable cheaper monitor that will offer nearly the same image beauty and have 1440p, 144hz and gsync?

Thanks for any help!
 
For the most part just enable it in the Nvidia Control Panel. If you can, use an ingame frame limiter like in batllefield or battlefront and limit the frames to ~138-140fps. That way you won't hit the 144Hz limit and the monitor won't switch over to VSync (more input lag) or no Vsync (tearing) depending on what you have selected.
 
All modern graphics cards have Display ports and the monitor will come with a cable. Most high end monitors you're better off going display port with anyway.

You won't find a better combo of price, res, refresh rate and gsync than the acer really. It's one of the best monitors on the market, and anything with gsync is going to cost you around the same anyway.

The XB270HU model is comparable and goes on more frequent sales but has the same MSRP (and is currently same price on Amazon) so might want to check other sites for it.
 
MBison said:
I just upgraded my computer and have a 980ti and am starting to look into these 1440p 144hz gsync monitors.

There's this one:

Acer Predator XB271HU bmiprz 27-inch WQHD (2560 x 1440) NVIDIA G-Sync Widescreen Display

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0173PEX20/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Expensive for sure. It also says that 144hz is via Display Port only? Is that true? How do I hook this up using my 980ti? Sorry I'm a little bit of a newb.

This monitor may be overkill (well meaning it's expensive haha). What's a comparable cheaper monitor that will offer nearly the same image beauty and have 1440p, 144hz and gsync?

Thanks for any help!
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You hook it up with a display port cable of course, the 980Ti obviously comes with those ports, besides GSync works only that way afaik.

Referring to other similar models, you won't find anything cheaper, if you want ips+2k+gsync get ready to spend between 650 and 800€. Actually you have an option, you could buy the xb270hu, which i own, and i can tell you is a great panel. Just make sure it doesn't belong to the first production cycle, otherwise it will be more likely that you get backlight bleeding and dead pixels. The models produced from August 2015 on suffer way less from these issues.
 
Finaika said:
Gamma2
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I initially rolled my eyes at your response, but it turns out you were actually right! I had been using settings from here since I got the monitor, but using settings found on this site, I was able to use gamma 2 with accurate colour settings that don't appear blown out. Everything looks perfect. I am officially 100% satisfied with my AOC G2460PG!
 
What brick and mortar stores carry these monitors? I haven't needed a gaming monitor before and from what I see, there's nowhere to actually get a look at these locally. I live blocks from a tiger direct and they don't even have these to look at.
 
newsguy said:
What brick and mortar stores carry these monitors? I haven't needed a gaming monitor before and from what I see, there's nowhere to actually get a look at these locally. I live blocks from a tiger direct and they don't even have these to look at.
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Based on the research I have done none of them do then I realized even if they did I doubt they would have a capable gaming PC hooked up as well so it appears we are flying blind.

So to make sure I have a firm grasp on G Sync what it does is eliminate screen tearing c9mpletely no matter what the fps as long as the fps does not exceed the refresh rate of the monitor. So there is no longer the need for V Sync?

It also of course minimizes input lag as well.

Is that correct? If so I'm on board as I hate screen tearing with a passion.
 
DirtyLarry said:
Based on the research I have done none of them do then I realized even if they did I doubt they would have a capable gaming PC hooked up as well so it appears we are flying blind.

So to make sure I have a firm grasp on G Sync what it does is eliminate screen tearing c9mpletely no matter what the fps as long as the fps does not exceed the refresh rate of the monitor. So there is no longer the need for V Sync?

It also of course minimizes input lag as well.

Is that correct? If so I'm on board as I hate screen tearing with a passion.
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Correct, with an asterisk. As long as your frame rate does not go above the monitor's refresh rate, you will see no tearing. As soon as it goes above, tearing will be present just like before, so you will either need to use vsync or cap your frame rate so that you never exceed maximum refresh. My monitor is 144Hz, and I've found that limiting frame rates in RTSS to 135 allows for butter smooth gameplay, ensures I never go over 144 fps, and allows me to keep vsync off universally (input lag is virtually non-existent).
 
Iced said:
Correct, with an asterisk. As long as your frame rate does not go above the monitor's refresh rate, you will see no tearing. As soon as it goes above, tearing will be present just like before, so you will either need to use vsync or cap your frame rate so that you never exceed maximum refresh. My monitor is 144Hz, and I've found that limiting frame rates in RTSS to 135 allows for butter smooth gameplay, ensures I never go over 144 fps, and allows me to keep vsync off universally (input lag is virtually non-existent).
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Perfect. I seriously hate tearing more than anything so I tend to always put on VSync which is capping me at 60 since my monitor is a bit older. If I can eliminate screen tearing AND get higher frames plus make the jump to 2560x1440, well that all sounds damn appealing to me.

Just looking over my finances to see if ordering the Dell S2716DG can be done right now with minimal impact or if I should wait a few weeks. I am struggling a bit with the fact it is a $500 expense as this will not be the only machine I game on, I will still play on consoles as well because of convenience and a couch, so it is a bit hard to swallow that big of a purchase. I am pretty much sold on it though. I am. Just trying to see when it makes most sense to purchase it without impacting anything else.
 
newsguy said:
What brick and mortar stores carry these monitors? I haven't needed a gaming monitor before and from what I see, there's nowhere to actually get a look at these locally. I live blocks from a tiger direct and they don't even have these to look at.
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Only could find these locally at my city's Micro Center
SolidSnakeUS said:
I wouldn't buy one from there, but I like that I can go to a store and see something this expensive for myself and see how they are and if they are to my liking.
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If you're going to get one of the IPS 1440 screens, it's probably worth paying a bit extra to be able to handle returns/exchanges easily.
 
e90Mark said:
Only could find these locally at my city's Micro Center


If you're going to get one of the IPS 1440 screens, it's probably worth paying a bit extra to be able to handle returns/exchanges easily.
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That is true. Just pack it back in and drive back. Cheaper than shipping the fucker back, unless Newegg/Amazon pays for it. The only place that I can get parts well enough without tax is Newegg. I could do B&H, but fuck them, they aren't getting my service again for what they did.
 
I'm also in the market for a 27", 1440p, G-Sync, 144Ghz, IPS monitor. Currently looking at the Acer Predator XB270HU, but being in Australia prices are quite high. Bordering on $1000 AUD for the above model. Any other recommendations?
 
In the market for a new monitor with Gsync since I mostly game on my computer, but I'm not sure where I should be looking based on my current specs. Preferably looking on Amazon since I have a $100 GC I've saved since Christmas for this. Any suggestions is much appreciated!

i5-4690k @ 3.50GHz
8GB RAM
GeForce GTX 970
 
Iced said:
I initially rolled my eyes at your response, but it turns out you were actually right! I had been using settings from here since I got the monitor, but using settings found on this site, I was able to use gamma 2 with accurate colour settings that don't appear blown out. Everything looks perfect. I am officially 100% satisfied with my AOC G2460PG!
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Nesmaster75 said:
In the market for a new monitor with Gsync since I mostly game on my computer, but I'm not sure where I should be looking based on my current specs. Preferably looking on Amazon since I have a $100 GC I've saved since Christmas for this. Any suggestions is much appreciated!

i5-4690k @ 3.50GHz
8GB RAM
GeForce GTX 970
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See the quote above yours, Nesmaster. I have the same specs as you and the same monitor as Iced (it's a 1080p 144hz TN panel G-Sync) and it's done me well so far (about a year now). It's also one of the cheaper end ones as it's not 27", 1440p, or IPS.

Use Half Life 2 as a test for your new monitor. It's old enough but with solid enough development that you can run it downsampled from 4k at a locked 144hz with no drops. It looks and feels great. You can also do some per-game settings to disable G-Sync and try put ULMB if your monitor has it, that gives great motion clarity at 120fps.
 
It's worth reminding people that all TN panels are not equal. Most people have only used rather bad 6-bit with dithering examples. That's where their bad reputation for colour reproduction came from versus IPS.

Now there are several displays that use 8-bit TN panels including the Asus ROG Swift PG278G and they look rather great. So beware that when people tell you it'll look terrible, they may not be speaking from direct experience. That's why we have reviews.
 
I had the Dell S2716DG. Didn't like it at all. There were visible artifacts in dark scenes when watching videos, looked a bit like compression artifacts. And this was supposed to be an 8bit panel. Also it's a TN panel. And a TN panel at 27" simply looks bad, because you will get very noticable color differences even when sitting right in front of it. The only way I can see someone being happy with this display is if he/she never had an IPS/VA display. There is a reason why this one is so cheap. I have an Acer XB271HU right now, and while there is IPS glow in very dark scenes, it doesn't bother me nearly as much.
 
Gemüsepizza;201244890 said:
I had the Dell S2716DG. Didn't like it at all. There were visible artifacts in dark scenes when watching videos, looked a bit like compression artifacts. And this was supposed to be an 8bit panel. Also it's a TN panel. And a TN panel at 27" simply looks bad, because you will get very noticable color differences even when sitting right in front of it. The only way I can see someone being happy with this display is if he/she never had an IPS/VA display. There is a reason why this one is so cheap. I have an Acer XB271HU right now, and while there is IPS glow in very dark scenes, it doesn't bother me nearly as much.
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This is why the market is such a mess right now. You can get a beautiful VA screen for £200, but if there was a G-sync variant it would be £700. That's ridiculous. There's still so little choice among G-sync monitors, and even within what choice there is, you're stuck with horrible pricing and rampant QA issues.

I really wish Nvidia would support Freesync, simply because there seems to be so many more Freesync screens out already and forthcoming, never mind the pricing, which is much more reasonable.
 
Gemüsepizza;201244890 said:
I had the Dell S2716DG. Didn't like it at all. There were visible artifacts in dark scenes when watching videos, looked a bit like compression artifacts. And this was supposed to be an 8bit panel. Also it's a TN panel. And a TN panel at 27" simply looks bad, because you will get very noticable color differences even when sitting right in front of it. The only way I can see someone being happy with this display is if he/she never had an IPS/VA display. There is a reason why this one is so cheap. I have an Acer XB271HU right now, and while there is IPS glow in very dark scenes, it doesn't bother me nearly as much.
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Sounds like the good news for me is I never owned an IPS/VA display (for Windows at least), so perhaps I can live with the monitor I just ordered.

And I just have to say I am not sure how much you are used to spending on monitors but $500 is not cheap to me. In fact I would say it is downright expensive. So spending $750+ on a monitor when my PC itself was only $1500 is just not an option. I have never, and will never, spend more on a monitor than I spent on my GPU. Just not going to happen. I already feel ridiculous spending $500 truth be told.

Since I am stepping up from a 5 year old ViewSonic 27" 1980 monitor 60hz monitor, I have a funny feeling I am really going to appreciate this Dell. It has GSync, It is 2140 resolution. From my current monitor to it, it is an obvious step up in a few key areas.

So yeah, I think it is going to be just fine for me. But we will see. Perhaps I will notice how awful it is, which is one of the reasons I did order from Amazon, they are very good with the returns.
 
Are there any 27" or larger IPS Gsync monitors that have multiple inputs? I'd like to have something that's easily switchable between my PC and my Macbook Pro.
 
DirtyLarry said:
Sounds like the good news for me is I never owned an IPS/VA display (for Windows at least), so perhaps I can live with the monitor I just ordered.

And I just have to say I am not sure how much you are used to spending on monitors but $500 is not cheap to me. In fact I would say it is downright expensive. So spending $750+ on a monitor when my PC itself was only $1500 is just not an option. I have never, and will never, spend more on a monitor than I spent on my GPU. Just not going to happen. I already feel ridiculous spending $500 truth be told.

Since I am stepping up from a 5 year old ViewSonic 27" 1980 monitor 60hz monitor, I have a funny feeling I am really going to appreciate this Dell. It has GSync, It is 2140 resolution. From my current monitor to it, it is an obvious step up in a few key areas.

So yeah, I think it is going to be just fine for me. But we will see. Perhaps I will notice how awful it is, which is one of the reasons I did order from Amazon, they are very good with the returns.
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Pretty sure he's just calling it cheap compared to other Gsync monitors of similar specs, which the person a few posts above was asking about.
 
I finally hooked up my new PC. I also got the 980ti 6700 deal. I don't have a monitor currently so I went direct to my receiver hooked up to a 65" 1080p. I noticed a couple of things, I know my TV will accept and downconvert a 4k signal, but the PC won't ever give me the option to go past 1080p. I'm wondering if that's a limitation the card has when going thru the HDMI port. Anyways, it's locked to 60fps for everything. I played the Dying Light demo with everything maxed and it was truly a revelation.

Anyway, I'm wondering if a G sync monitor is a good idea for me, because I'll miss running the audio through my 7.1 system. On the other hand, playing American Truck simulator was very uncomfortable from my couch because it still requires KB/M for certain things.
 
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