Karsticles
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Man, a lot of hate in this thread. :-/
April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader
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Unknown Soldier
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I think you're defending reflexively against nothing here, since I didn't say a single thing about corruption in that post.
Death throes. Berns should really throw the towel and bolster support for Clinton lest this kind of thing actually bleed into the GE. Which would be a lose lose for everyone, imo. If Clinton could do it for Bams surely Berns can do it for Clinton.
Chaos2Frozen
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This is some embarrassing shit.
But no serious I was pissed because whoever that is both treated his/her mother like shit, and wasted food.
"Celebrate your ultra-wealthy, ultra-establishment candidate..." Oh what were you implying here then?
The irony is that the entire initial post was almost nothing but sour grapes.....so there's a huge element of irony to it that just went over the author's self-awareness radar.
Not to mention that "sour grapes", almost by their very definition, have to come from someone who has lost or been denied something. Sour grapes happen when someone who has been denied victory/success suddenly decides that the prize was undesirable or not worth it. It's difficult accuse someone on the winning side of sour grapes.
Chicken nuggets sounds a little too close to chicken tendies. It's probably a troll from 4chan or /r/the_donald.
Unknown Soldier
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"ultra-wealthy" - Hillary and Bill Clinton are worth at least $140 million
"ultra-establishment" - Hillary has had the support of the entire party since day 1
What was I implying? Exactly what I said. Any questions?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
someone should tell whoever made this that the "State Department" doesn't mean "Department of State Governments"
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ands-voters-new-york-where-purged-voter-roles
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ands-voters-new-york-where-purged-voter-roles
And their wealth is bad because...?
Those are denotations, everyone knows the connotations behind saying that, don't play it short or obtuse.
Unknown Soldier
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You know, when the New York Yankees beat up the Seattle Mariners, they don't go and talk shit about the Mariners after they've won. They realize that their team is better paid, has more talented players, has a big fanbase back home in the largest metropolitan area in the country, and they are supposed to conduct themselves accordingly. They win their games quietly and fly back home.
Imagine if the Yankees were the ones kicking dirt into the faces of the Mariners and being unsportsmanlike after the fact. No one would stand for it. That's the difference between being the favored and being the underdog. It's a shame none of the Hillary supporters ever understood this.
Sure you can. Anyone can fit the term "sour grapes".
I'm not really sure in what world Julian Castro is considered handsome.
The VP will be a middle-aged white man.
IAmAnAgnostic
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Holy hell at the Young Turks. Look at their most recent uploads:
EatinOlives
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Both of those are bad because...
I genuinely feel bad for that mother. Get yelled at, food knocked out of your hand, and the door slammed on you out of a shitty ass temper tantrum. I hope an apology and some serious growing up follow.
We hold the players to a certain level of sportsmanship.....but certainly not anyone who's ever been a Yankees fan. I guarantee you that you can find Yankees fans talking all manner of shit about every other team in the league if you go to any sports message board.
sour grapes
1. used to refer to an attitude in which someone adopts a negative attitude to something because they cannot have it themselves.
Wiki:
The Fox and the Grapes is one of the Aesop's fables,...The narration is concise and subsequent retellings have often been equally succinct. The story concerns a fox that tries to eat grapes from a vine but cannot reach them. Rather than admit defeat, he states they are undesirable. The expression "sour grapes" originated from this fable.
The phrase specifically refers to someone whose opinion of a prize is negatively tinted only because he cannot have it. Someone on the winning side cannot have sour grapes.....they can certainly be a poor sport, which is what I assume you're really getting at.
NullPointer
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They all should be.
Been trying to listen to the candidates and their endorsements rather than their social media folks and news media talking heads. We really don't need to magnify the voices of the worst of the worst. I'd recommend it.
Even this place has been just as strident and unwelcome as reddit imho, just an entirely different flavor. Still comes down to justifying shit behavior when its on your side, and having less than zero patience for nuance or complexity on the other. I welcome this all winding down.
But as someone who wanted Bernie to go as far as he could, I want to congratulate the Clinton folks. Plenty of reason to feel good about tonight and the road ahead.
What a shit analogy.
If the Seattle fans were whining about cheating, paying of umpires, yankees buying chapionships, and yankee fans for not being true baseball fans to some Yankee fans in a bar after the Yankees beat the Mariners, you better believe that those Yankee fans would talk shit back
That is the proper analogy, and I doubt too many people would characterize those yankee fans as awful human beings because of it
BlastProcessing
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Holy hell at the Young Turks. Look at their most recent uploads:
At least they are working through the stages.
Frozenprince
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Also the Mariners won the only series they've played this year. Just gonna throw that out there.
Now the St Louis Cardinals, I believe that is something we can all come together in our hatred.
Now the St Louis Cardinals, I believe that is something we can all come together in our hatred.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
FunkyMunkey
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oh shit you're right.
people in sanders camp are kicking and screaming about new york all over social media tonight. take the L and put it above the fireplace
IrishNinja
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the posts about "voter suppression" aren't serious, right? that's actually kinda insulting to the legit voter suppression the GOP's been pushing a few cycles now
firefly! good one brah
my first thought as well
firefly! good one brah
my first thought as well
Frozenprince
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If only.
Some of the most egregious example of voter disenfranchisement has also happened in caucus states. I don't love closed primaries (I would prefer to do semi-open) and I think the 6 month registration to change is draconian, but people shouldn't have to wait 3-4 hours in line to vote and then stand in a gym just "because".
Where was the outrage when the only reason that dishwashers at Nevada casinos could stay at their precincts after waiting for 3 hours to caucus because their casino manager decided to eat their wages because he thought being able to vote was more important?
It's all terrible and awful and should all be called out in unison, but it's all proxy wars for your candidate of choice. Both are terrible in their own way!
Good guys already won their first of many series against 'baseball's establishment.'
I'm on the Hillary train now I suppose, but fuck if I'll condone any of that 'yas queen' horseshit. Or deriding a young base for actually having any hope in America's political climate. Need to harness that energy for good and future elections. Y'know, like actually taking the senate and house back. Shit that matters. Not that the executive doesn't, per se, but more deadlock isn't helping anything.
Holy hell at the Young Turks. Look at their most recent uploads:
That first one is the smuggest thing I've ever seen in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmaXB-NprOM
Frozenprince
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Schwarber
I'll just go ahead and say that other than the SC nominations, the executive is basically worthless right now.
Far more important to retake down ticket support, you're right.
Officerrob
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Holy hell at the Young Turks. Look at their most recent uploads:
Worse than Fox News at this point
Oh my god. I stopped watching TYT a while ago, but oh my god.
Frozenprince
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The ultra neo-liberal and the ultra neo-con are basically two sides of the same coin.
EatinOlives
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Psychoward
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In terms of mainstream shit slinging sure but in terms of actual policies not even close.
NullPointer
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Political operatives on the extremes of all sides respect anything that achieves tangible results.
LiquidSolid
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What exactly do you expect of "Borg Queen" (your words) supporters? To be super nice to the people running around throwing childish insults and accusations at the candidate of their choice? That's pretty fucking rich.
With everything his campaign has said and done, does anyone really think Bernie's going to concede with even half the grace Clinton did in 2008, particularly at the convention? I just can't see it, he doesn't have the same loyalty to the party that she does.
Where in my post did I say I support caucuses?
Anyway, your first paragraph is what I'm talking about. I think there's room to say that, hey, maybe a 6 month deadline is pretty outlandish, especially if we're the party that proclaims to support the right of having as many people vote as we can. But I'm watching things slowly unfold and I'm aghast at what tactics or policies garner support in the Democratic Party these days.
I would also say in terms of bias and TRUTH (only one way of looking at things) as well
Your post assumes you're talking about what's occurring in New York. Which is fine. I agree. And I don't assume you support caucuses, I'm annoyed that we've been talking about voter suppression the past week where caucuses have been hand waved because reasons. No one seems to care because it's all proxy wars on who does better in what scenario of voting.
Frozenprince
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Wish they'd just say "damn blacks" and be done with it.
At the end of the day not having any minority support at all is what's killed Bernie.
"How can I possibly respect someone with a different political perspective than myself?!"
At least Fox News would bring on some weak-spoken liberal so they could tear him apart, cut him off, and belittle his perspective.
TYT doesn't even go that far -- all they want to do is beat up some Hilary-lovin' strawman that isn't even on-camera.
Probably because Sanders isn't leading the primary? I think caucuses need to be changed FWIW.
Good luck with that. America is more divided now than ever. If nothing else, I now fear more than ever that Trump may win the GE.
Sorry, I edited it a bit, and I agree, but like, do people actually authentically care about closed primaries and caucuses or are they just proxy wars for their candidate they want to win? It makes it hard to discern where the anger at the injustice is coming from.
Sorry but this doesn't ring true for me. TYT doesn't have a '99.6% of poor households have FRIDGES' equivalent moment, or anything close to it.
This is a video where Cenk defends Hillary against the right-wing hate machine. Expect a lot more of this type of thing in a few months.
Frozenprince
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Donald Trump is down over 70% in general approval ratings among basically every non-white middle class group. To put this in perspective, Nixon at the height of Watergate peaked at 66%.
He has a 0% chance to even sniff winning a GE.
Trump is down by 3 points... in Mississippi. How is he supposed to win a GE?
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