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Official 2009-2010 MLB Offseason Thread of Ending Mauer to Yankees Talk for 5-7 Years

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Jon said:
Having seen Doc a few times now, I can't help but worry he'll fall into "Cole Hamels Syndrome", where he'll manage to get 40 foul balls a game, which will run him out of games earlier than he should.

Having said that, he was straight DEALING tonight.
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This post is retarded.
 
Once the first week of spring training is over I am ready for it to be done. I grow tired of watching/following games that mean nothing (both in terms of standings and in terms of evaluating a player's worth). At least the WBC last year was a nice way to break up this monotony.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Yeah. It's going to be tough year with Manny not being novel and no celebrities in the stands.
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Hopefully Torre uses a lineup like lately

Furcal
KEMP
ETHIER
MANNY
Then have either Belliard or Blake
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?
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P spot.
 
sf2fanatic said:
Hopefully Torre uses a lineup like lately

Furcal
KEMP
ETHIER
MANNY
Then have either Belliard or Blake
?
?
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P spot.
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The Dodgers will be fine. Just because they didn't make any big splashes in free agency doesn't mean they wont continue to have one of the top line-ups in the NL and maybe the best bullpen in baseball.

Opening day line-up should look like this:
Rafael Furcal, SS
Matt Kemp, CF
Andre Ethier, RF
Manny Ramirez, LF
James Loney, 1B
Casey Blake, 3B
Blake DeWitt, 2B
A.J. Ellis, C
Pitcher
 
I for one eagerly await the Angels to finish last in the division, as is predicted by all these new-fangled statistic thing-a-ma-jiggers, which have been so correct with the Angels over the past 6-7 years.
 
Jon said:
Having seen Doc a few times now, I can't help but worry he'll fall into "Cole Hamels Syndrome", where he'll manage to get 40 foul balls a game, which will run him out of games earlier than he should.

Having said that, he was straight DEALING tonight.
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YOU know hes logged more innings than any pitcher in the past decade right? against teams like Boston and the Yankees? He has more complete games than most teams.
 
Adam Blade said:
I for one eagerly await the Angels to finish last in the division, as is predicted by all these new-fangled statistic thing-a-ma-jiggers, which have been so correct with the Angels over the past 6-7 years.
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:lol :lol :lol

Going to Vegas soon..Gotta love them odds for winning the west..
They lose a great pitcher..but their bullpen is deep. losing Vladdy was sad but they had to do it. Seeing Figgy in a Mariner uniform also is sad but still think they can do some damage.Kazmir is looking for some redemption.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Yeah. It's going to be tough year with Manny not being novel and no celebrities in the stands.
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Pssh, Celebrities never show up to Doyers games. Only time I seen one was when Kobe was at one of their playoff games. If they should ever win the World Series then you would see an avalanche of celebs.
 
rc213 said:
Pssh, Celebrities never show up to Doyers games. Only time I seen one was when Kobe was at one of their playoff games. If they should ever win the World Series then you would see an avalanche of celebs.
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take Jack Nicholas please.
 
Well, at least the Nationals squandered Strasburg's start by one less run than I predicted. Fuck it, I know we can't bring him up too early thanks to arbitration bullshit but I just can't see us getting an over .500 record with the pile of crap that is the rest of our starting pitchers.
 
yankeeforever2 said:
take Jack Nicholas please.
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Sharp said:
Well, at least the Nationals squandered Strasburg's start by one less run than I predicted. Fuck it, I know we can't bring him up too early thanks to arbitration bullshit but I just can't see us getting an over .500 record with the pile of crap that is the rest of our starting pitchers.
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You never know. Just need pitching which the Nationals added some this year. They have a decent enough offense so they may be able to get to .500. Then again, the East is going to be tough.

And strasburg doesn't have to worry about the super two stuff right? because he signed a major league contract? Anyway, there should be no rush with him, the Nationals are finally looking like they will contend in a few years, heck maybe next year.

Strasburg, Marquis, Lannon and Zimmermann sounds like a good rotation.

Plus they stole the Braves scouting director away from us, so their future looks bright.
 
Windu said:
You never know. Just need pitching which the Nationals added some this year. They have a decent enough offense so they may be able to get to .500. Then again, the East is going to be tough.

And strasburg doesn't have to worry about the super two stuff right? because he signed a major league contract? Anyway, there should be no rush with him, the Nationals are finally looking like they will contend in a few years, heck maybe next year.

Strasburg, Marquis, Lannon and Zimmermann sounds like a good rotation.

Plus they stole the Braves scouting director away from us, so their future looks bright.
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I honestly don't give enough of a shit to look up the particulars, but they obviously won't bring him up til May/June to start his arbitration clock. After that he'll definitely have enough service time to be a super two if he could be. They're not gonna dick him around like that since it's not like they actually have pitchers better than him.
 
DevelopmentArrested said:
YOU know hes logged more innings than any pitcher in the past decade right? against teams like Boston and the Yankees? He has more complete games than most teams.
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YOU KNOW, he is in the NL now, so he won't be pitching as many innings. That's a fact.

And holy shit, it's LJ and Cajole--you guys are quite the tag team. Which one wants to be Scott Hall (or Razor Ramon for you old-schoolers) and who wants to be Kevin Nash? I'm just saying that he pitches to contact, and the only thing I can see derailing him from complete dominance is foul balls. So get fucked, and enjoy watching Big Pelf all year.
 
Jon said:
YOU KNOW, he is in the NL now, so he won't be pitching as many innings. That's a fact.

And holy shit, it's LJ and Cajole--you guys are quite the tag team. Which one wants to be Scott Hall (or Razor Ramon for you old-schoolers) and who wants to be Kevin Nash? I'm just saying that he pitches to contact, and the only thing I can see derailing him from complete dominance is foul balls. So get fucked, and enjoy watching Big Pelf all year.
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You're giving the Phillie Phanatic, the best mascot in sports, a bad name dude.
 
Halladay has pitched an average of 237 innings over the last three years. If he pitches 237 for the Phillies, I'd be ecstatic.

But hey, I forgot that Charlie let Pedro throw 130 pitches last year, so for all I know Roy will pitch 300 innings.
 
The ONLY reason (outside of a major injury, obviously) Halladay would pitch less innings is due to the lack of a DH, not because of foul balls. That's probably what you meant by the last IN THE NL NOW comment, but up until now you've seemed to focus on pitch count.
 
Letting Halladay pitch another inning is always more valuable than letting a scrub hitter who couldn't even make an NL lineup bat once.
 
Doytch said:
Letting Halladay pitch another inning is always more valuable than letting a scrub hitter who couldn't even make an NL lineup bat once.
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You should probably tell Cito Gaston that. I seem to remember last year when the Jays played the Braves and Halladay was pulled earlier than he should have been because of a PHer. It was either a 1-0 game or a 0-0 game at the time so it may have been the right decision. But the Braves ended up winning 1-0.

Kawakami pitched a awesome game that day btw, he seems to rise to the occasion when facing the other team's ace.
 
Windu said:
You should probably tell Cito Gaston that. I seem to remember last year when the Jays played the Braves and Halladay was pulled earlier than he should have been because of a PHer. It was either a 1-0 game or a 0-0 game at the time so it may have been the right decision. But the Braves ended up winning 1-0.

Kawakami pitched a awesome game that day btw, he seems to rise to the occasion when facing the other team's ace.
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Cito Gaston took five years off my life last year. Anything dude does should not be considered an 'optimal strategy.'
Verducci @ SI said:
When baseball commissioner Bud Selig named a 14-person "special committee for on-field matters" four months ago, he promised that all topics would be in play and "there are no sacred cows." The committee already has made good on Selig's promise by discussing a radical form of "floating" realignment in which teams would not be fixed to a division, but free to change divisions from year-to-year based on geography, payroll and their plans to contend or not.

The concept gained strong support among committee members, many of whom believe there are non-economic avenues that should be explored to improve competitive balance, similar to the NFL's former use of scheduling to help parity (in which weaker teams were awarded a weaker schedule the next season).

As with most issues of competitive balance, floating realignment involves finding a work-around to the Boston-New York axis of power in the AL East. In the 15 seasons during which the wild-card system has been in use, the Red Sox and Yankees have accounted for 38 percent of all AL postseason berths. The league has never conducted playoffs without the Red Sox or Yankees since that format began -- and in eight of those 15 years both teams made the playoffs. Since 2003 the Sox and Yankees have won at least 95 games 11 times in 14 combined seasons.

One example of floating realignment, according to one insider, would work this way: Cleveland, which is rebuilding with a reduced payroll, could opt to leave the AL Central to play in the AL East. The Indians would benefit from an unbalanced schedule that would give them a total of 18 lucrative home dates against the Yankees and Red Sox instead of their current eight. A small or mid-market contender, such as Tampa Bay or Baltimore, could move to the AL Central to get a better crack at postseason play instead of continually fighting against the mega-payrolls of New York and Boston.

Divisions still would loosely follow geographic lines; no team would join a division more than two time zones outside its own, largely to protect local television rights (i.e., start times of games) and travel costs.

Floating realignment also could mean changing the number of teams in a division, teams changing leagues and interleague games throughout the season, according to several sources familiar with the committee's discussions. It is important to remember that the committee's talks are very preliminary and non-binding.

"But if there is something that comes up we feel should be addressed during the season, we can make a recommendation then," said committee co-chair and Braves president John Schuerholz, referring to less complicated issues such as pace-of-game directives. "This is all about any ideas that help make the game better."

The floating realignment idea is nothing more than a concept at this point, part of the brainstorming sessions that have occurred in the committee's one in-person meeting and occasional conference calls. (Selig is pushing for another in-person meeting, such as at the All-Star Game. The committee includes current managers and executives, making in-person meetings logistically difficult.) The mechanics of the system are far from nailed down. But what is important is that the committee is making good on its mission to look at absolutely any on-field idea that could make the game better. Blowing up fixed divisions as we know them -- and even leagues -- certainly qualifies as radical thinking.
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Pretty much like I said. The committee is gonna come up with a bunch of ideas to show they're serious about listening to fans and 'improving' the game, and then do nothing.
 
Doytch said:
Cito Gaston took five years off my life last year. Anything dude does should not be considered an 'optimal strategy.'

Pretty much like I said. The committee is gonna come up with a bunch of ideas to show they're serious about listening to fans and 'improving' the game, and then do nothing.
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Floating realignment is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard in quite some time. What would happen with the DH?

The Rays, though, could move out of the AL East and into the AL Central, where they conceivably would have a better shot at making the playoffs.
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Why would anyone move into the AL East? Oh right the Indians because supposedly losing more games against higher quality competition will mean more money.
 
TheBranca18 said:
Floating realignment is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard in quite some time. What would happen with the DH?
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The only sensible thing, everyone plays with it. Oh shit! DH argument!
Why would anyone move into the AL East? Oh right the Indians because supposedly losing more games against higher quality competition will mean more money.
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Toronto's attendance jumps massively against NYY/BOS. Off the top of my head, we were usually around 20k, and it hit 40k a couple of times against NYY.

Also, for unrelated shiggles.
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That is an...intriguing idea, but it would be difficult to implement. I'm assuming there would have to be a cap on the number of teams per division? Would teams be moved against their will to create balance? Each league could end up having have a "bottomfeeder division", "middle of the pack division" and an "elite division". Typically, every good team relies on taking care of business against the lesser teams in its division--I'm not sure this relationship would hold true in the elite divisions.

Moreover, how would fanbases of the bottom-feeder teams react? Everyone realizes the Orioles are in a tough division, and I think the fans are more accepting as to why they're not in the playoffs. But if they moved to a division with the Royals and Nationals, and STILL didn't make the playoffs, the fans might completely disappear.
 
Doytch said:
Pretty much like I said. The committee is gonna come up with a bunch of ideas to show they're serious about listening to fans and 'improving' the game, and then do nothing.
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just go back to a balanced schedule, problem solved. Also wtf @ Tori.
 
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