April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

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royalan said:
And yet I don't recall any of those things being a ploy to get her voters to believe that the Democratic Party itself is a corrupt institution.
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Yup. That's a burn everything down approach because one didn't get theirs. Going after the other person make sense. Attacking the party that is suppose to help you get your agenda accomplished makes no fucking sense no matter how you spin it. Poisoning your supporters against the party and anyone else it supports makes no sense. Sanders would know this if he were ever apart of the party or invested any time in it. Sanders is under the impression people overall are upset with the Dem party and the direction it's tkane when that really isn't the case. It takes a lack of understanding of the party as it is currently to come to that conclusion. It makes sense he doesn't have that understanding. People need to stop taking the idea that republicans are angry and angry at their party leaders and establishment and looking at the Dem party through the same lens. That's been a problem from the very start and a narrative the news channels tried to push until polling started to make it very clear that wasn't happening and it was primarily a republican thing.

giga said:
When do polls close
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Macho Madness said:
I believe they all close at 7 except Rhode Island which closes at 8. Eastern.
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PA closes at 8pm.
 
Clinton has no high ground to call for sanders to drop out, BUT

that being said, I do think he has no shot and can only stay in to leverage his political capital the most. That's up to him and his donors, so I don't see an inherent problem in him staying in. But from Clinton's perspective he can't step down soon enough.
 
They all close at 8PM Eastern because this is East Coast Tuesday

Or at least that's why googling each state told me

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dramatis said:
You have your primary forecasts at FiveThirtyEight.
You can have a gander at the ads that candidates or super PACs are putting out at New Republic.
If you would like to see some ad analysis, NY Times has a section for that.
You can follow happenings using Twitter with the hashtag of the day: #PrimaryDay. (More original than Super Tuesday (n+1))

All states active today will be closing at 8PM Eastern.
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royalan said:
And yet I don't recall any of those things being a ploy to get her voters to believe that the Democratic Party itself is a corrupt institution.
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All of those things are clearly far worse than implying a political party is influenced by outside money.

I'd really love if Sanders said that he was staying in the race just in case Clinton is indicted so I could see how Hillary supporters would try and spin that as being worse than Hillary saying that maybe Obama would be assassinated.
 
euphemism said:
Clinton has no high ground to call for sanders to drop out, BUT

that being said, I do think he has no shot and can only stay in to leverage his political capital the most. That's up to him and his donors, so I don't see an inherent problem in him staying in. But from Clinton's perspective he can't step down soon enough.
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I don't think she has called for him to drop? Some of her team may have though. I read a story that Hillary doesn't mind Bernie staying in, she's basically doing victory laps going forward.
 
euphemism said:
Clinton has no high ground to call for sanders to drop out, BUT

that being said, I do think he has no shot and can only stay in to leverage his political capital the most. That's up to him and his donors, so I don't see an inherent problem in him staying in. But from Clinton's perspective he can't step down soon enough.
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I think she kinda does. The difference between her and Obama in 2008 at this point is closer than Sanders
 
massoluk said:
I think she kinda does. The difference between her and Obama in 2008 at this point is closer than Sanders
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In addition to her current pledged delegate lead being much wider than Obama's lead in 2008, she has also has the popular vote. 2.7 million more votes then Bernie baby.
 
euphemism said:
Clinton has no high ground to call for sanders to drop out, BUT

that being said, I do think he has no shot and can only stay in to leverage his political capital the most. That's up to him and his donors, so I don't see an inherent problem in him staying in. But from Clinton's perspective he can't step down soon enough.
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I think she has had leverage, but she knows having Bernie around is a good thing still. He still creates enthusiasm. You don't want to kill it too early.
 
teruterubozu said:
I think she has had leverage, but she knows having Bernie around is a good thing still. He still creates enthusiasm. You don't want to kill it too early.
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He's pretty much done all the damage he can anyway, another 5/6 weeks won't do anything. He makes the race exciting.
 
Macho Madness said:
Maybe you need to exit

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StopMakingSense said:
Oh I can't wait to have to explain why exit polls and results can be so off from each other again this week!
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It's a huge, widespread conspiracy. One where all of the participants miraculously stay hush-hush and do their parts in error-free fashion, never blowing their cover, never leaving any evidence.
 
So it looks like the race that will be razor thin will be RI. Benchmark says 50.25/49.75, then you have CT by 10, PA by 14, DE by 20 and MD by 32
 
eBay Huckster said:
I never want to see those two words ever again after this week
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Exit polls are somewhat accurate though, enough so that +/- 10 percent may be predicted with confidence. They're not made to predivt the race either, but to measure demographics. Thats why they change them as the night progresses.
 
Kathian said:
You don't need to ask one side to drop out in a 1vs1 race. You just need to win.
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Pretty much. If Sanders wants to stay in the public eye, keep his message out there (and keep failing to come close to turning this race around) then he can and I honestly think should.

If the Republicans were unified behind a candidate I'd feel quite differently, but they aren't remotely close to doing that, so I see no reason to expect Sanders to drop out before reaching the finish line in second place. Either way... he'll be a candidate who greatly over performed in his losing efforts. Clinton will go on like it never happened (because her margins will be comfortable), and Sanders will have a lot more political capital.
 
PA seems to be going well for Hillary going by early signs.

"Extremely high turnout in Hanover, PA. York County. VERY high median age, an "Elderly" county if you will."
 
Enough of the voting days. We need another debate! I've had my fill of supporters bickering. I want to hear pandering, smears, audience members whooping like cranes, and I want to see Bernie Sanders' finger flapping in the breeze like a flag in a hurricane while Hillary Clinton smiles like she doesn't want to just push him off the stage into a pit of jackals.

Let's make this happen, GAF!
 
plop said:
Enough of the voting days. We need another debate! I've had my fill of supporters bickering. I want to hear pandering, smears, audience members whooping like cranes, and I want to see Bernie Sanders' finger flapping in the breeze like a flag in a hurricane while Hillary Clinton smiles like she doesn't want to just push him off the stage into a pit of jackals.

Let's make this happen, GAF!
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Oh dear god I don't think Morton needs to make more off of this election than they already have and will.

I will send a very nastily worded email to my Senator as well as both Clinton and Sanders begging them to call it off if they decide to have another.
 
"29% turnout THIS EARLY at Paxton in Harrisburg! Dauphin County is a +22% Clinton county."

Dunno how to embed tweets, but this is Benchmark.
 
SlimySnake said:
Today is the day when Bernie drops out.
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He won't drop out. He can't win. He won't win. He won't be the Democratic nominee. But he won't drop out. If today goes Clinton's way, I hope he never ever mentions Clinton in his speeches again, unless it's to say she is better than Trump.
 
giga said:
Why does Clinton refuse to have a debate at every state? What does she have to hide?
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Stop me if you've heard this one, but in the past, she gave these speeches to some Wall Street banker types. Although it's unlikely her speeches contained a phrase even remotely similar to, "Thanks for the money. I'm your Democratic whore now," we all know that she is. Being paid to associate with a group makes you a member of that group.

Much like how I, a male atheist, was paid to teach CPR at a Catholic Church to a group of churchgoers. And now I'm a nun.

It's science.
 
Miles X said:
"29% turnout THIS EARLY at Paxton in Harrisburg! Dauphin County is a +22% Clinton county."

Dunno how to embed tweets, but this is Benchmark.
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You can't embed tweets here. I think it was turned on once for a few hours but it put too much strain on the server and was turned off.
 
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