Michael F. Assbender
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Have you seen the number of Likes his Facebook memes get? You tell me how that's possible yet he still loses.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that jet fuel can melt steel beams.
April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader
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Have you seen the number of Likes his Facebook memes get? You tell me how that's possible yet he still loses.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that jet fuel can melt steel beams.
SolicitorPirate
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Do they upload these to their channel? I could do with som cringe comedy tonight after work
jack_package_200
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Because Bernie Supporters are victims of the evil establishment. Didn't you know white liberals are the most persecuted group in america?
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Only some places in eastern europe has the far-right come to power. In Western Europe populist candidates like Trump never get more than 20-30 % maximum.
That is very different from America where someone like Trump has a real chance to win it all. Even if he loses it will probably be with 40-45 % of the vote.
Moreover, bipartisanship is stil alive many places in Europe. In the american congress it's just total gridlock all the time.
The United States has much to be proud of, but not your political system. It's completely broken with a very low voter turnout and zero trust from the populace.
excelsiorlef
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Yeah, Hillary is doing a bit better than I thought after that close margin at the beginning. She could go all the way to a 5 point victory.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Drifting OT here, but you and me both
I took a break from following my favorite atheists 5 years ago and came back and can't even stand to listen to half of them anymore
Because resolving the cognitive dissonance of being confronted by facts requires increasing the circle of the conspiracy theory.
Box of Kittens
Banned
People are really starting to overestimate Trump for the general. He'll do horribly, even by GOP standards, among women and minorities. There's a reason the party is openly plotting to try and steal the nomination from him.
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Cenk said online that he voted for Obama in 2012. Were they salty? I remember their GE coverage that night was mostly about Rove's meltdown.
Michael F. Assbender
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Love this.
Does the RedPill crowd actually do anything in the real world aside from doxxing feminists? They'll just continue being angry in their Internet eco-chamber, calling everyone cucks and blaming all their problems on Anita Sarkeesian.
The rest of world, aside from some rednecks, won't care.
excelsiorlef
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Cenk voted for Obama in the GE but voted against him in the Primary in 2012
Butts-a-plenty
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Oh he's going to get blown to pieces and all the posts saying he has a chance will be quoted for ages.
Dangansona
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Well Bernie's 5% chance of winning just dropped to 1% lol. But don't expect him to drop out.
It's not. It's assumed that it impacts him more than Hillary because most of the voter suppression has been in the form of taking away party membership from recent independents-turned-democrats who would obviously be more likely to vote for Bernie, and because old people (her largest demographic) are able to stand in poll lines for hours more than a college student or average working adult.
But it doesn't just impact Bernie supporters. I have been trying to say it impacts everyone since day one to get people to even care and not throw out "lol look at this guy's tin hat" remarks because it is happening.
You can quote me for saying he has a decent chance.
It's not. It's assumed that it impacts him more than Hillary because most of the voter suppression has been in the form of taking away party membership from recent independents-turned-democrats who would obviously be more likely to vote for Bernie, and because old people (her largest demographic) are able to stand in poll lines for hours more than a college student or average working adult.
But it doesn't just impact Bernie supporters. I have been trying to say it impacts everyone since day one to get people to even care and not throw out "lol look at this guy's tin hat" remarks because it is happening.
You can quote me for saying he has a decent chance.
BennyBlanco
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so when does bernie wrap it up? hes pretty close to being mathematically eliminated
excelsiorlef
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Clinton set to gain around 76 delegates on the night.
Michael F. Assbender
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Or he wins. And the posts doubting him will be inscribed on the tombstones of those who ever thought to cross his highness.
InsaneZero
Member
People really, really need to refresh their memory on what the 2012 electoral map looked like.
Oh, I'm not talking about them during Obama's election. I mean all the anger I saw from the right when he did. TYT's anger was on par with that.
googleplex
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Get Rekt Bernie
Dangansona
Member
At this point it isn't about winning because if that is what you mean by mathematically eliminated that pretty much happened in NY. But if he gets 25% of the vote he gets a chance to define party platform at the convention. Also continuing to get a large amount of the votes should demonstrate something to the democratic party and the "establishment" itself.
Then there's always the chance of indictment...
maabus1999
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Well according to Jeff Weaver, all the way to the convention as it will "be contested."
Of course he overlooks it is impossible to be contested with only two people on the ballot. Someone will win the first vote...
Also overlooks that he discounts all super delegates who have pledged but counts them as part of the 50% pool to cross for his argument.
Really wonder how long until Devine and Weaver have a huge flare over on how to end this...
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
do people unironically believe HRC will be indicted?
Dangansona
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I wouldn't put money on it, no.
Will be more around 60/65.
The only wedge issues Sanders has on Clinton regarding defining the party platform are bad to terrible ideas. The only one that makes a lick of sense is the $15 minimum wage.
He is certainly welcome to try, but I personally hope he's thrown the $15 olive branch, and that's about it.
Get outta here with the anti-trade, protectionist bullshit. We're excising that from the party based on evidence, and it ain't coming back.
He is certainly welcome to try, but I personally hope he's thrown the $15 olive branch, and that's about it.
Get outta here with the anti-trade, protectionist bullshit. We're excising that from the party based on evidence, and it ain't coming back.
InsaneZero
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If it was even remotely possible to indict Hillary, Congress would've done it already. It's not like they had a billion hearings on Benghazi just because they felt like wasting taxpayer money.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Seeing the salt flow hard on my FB feed already. So many USUncut links and dank memes coming out. Today was rigged. RIGGED!
And they are the people that say (but probably don't believe) that they will go Trump if Bernie doesn't win. Ugh.
And they are the people that say (but probably don't believe) that they will go Trump if Bernie doesn't win. Ugh.
NoMoreTrolls
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So glad we can put the Bernie shit to bed now.
I don't know if they do or not. I only watch them on these primary nights.
I think Trump has this nom locked up, even if he loses Indiana next week.
Over half of Pennsyvalnian delegates said they'll vote for the winner, that's Trump, that's 27 delegates.
California is Winner take all statewide and by congressional district, he's doing well in the polls there, if he wins most districts by 50% he is gonna get a much bigger chunk of that 172 than he's been targetted for.
Over half of Pennsyvalnian delegates said they'll vote for the winner, that's Trump, that's 27 delegates.
California is Winner take all statewide and by congressional district, he's doing well in the polls there, if he wins most districts by 50% he is gonna get a much bigger chunk of that 172 than he's been targetted for.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I haven't been a fan of TYT for a long time. I laughed at their desperation in the past few weeks and months, and groaned at their refusal to just admit that Sanders is toast.
But after hearing one guy say he's voting for Trump to speed up the coming revolution (because he's white and Trump's policies won't affect him...Nevermind the fact that Trump's SCOTUS picks will last longer than his presidency) and hearing the woman say that poor people who voted for Clinton are too complacent and should have their government assistance taken away (because they don't agree with her, they deserve to suffer and possibly die), I'm done with that channel.
I've never seen a more self-assured, condescending bunch of elitist circle-jerkers. I feel dirty having sat through any of that.
But after hearing one guy say he's voting for Trump to speed up the coming revolution (because he's white and Trump's policies won't affect him...Nevermind the fact that Trump's SCOTUS picks will last longer than his presidency) and hearing the woman say that poor people who voted for Clinton are too complacent and should have their government assistance taken away (because they don't agree with her, they deserve to suffer and possibly die), I'm done with that channel.
I've never seen a more self-assured, condescending bunch of elitist circle-jerkers. I feel dirty having sat through any of that.
Dangansona
Member
I know you guys would say Hillary is also for getting money out of politics, but as my number one issue in this election I would appreciate it if he squeezed that in too.
I'm sure single-payer will just get shut down even on that level.
googleplex
Member
Who ever the Establishment is this week. Last week it was planned parent Hood, and every black person in the south that didn't vote for Bernie.
excelsiorlef
Member
Interesting just basing off what NYT is saying right now and they have it at 190 to 114
I think most will change their tune once the GE starts and Trump really gets going on his usual antics.
Prodigal Son
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ALL BERNIE SUPPORTERS ARE WHITE LIBERALS
That's what they can allocate given what's come in. There are 384.
It'll definitely be interesting to see how she handles her self during their debates.
googleplex
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No .. just the VAST majority on them. That is an undisputed fact.
excelsiorlef
Member
All? No but that is his base.
Michael F. Assbender
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My liege, please have mercy on these poor souls.
My god, it's beautiful. They should have sent a poet...
perfectchaos007
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imo, it seems obvious Trump is trying to pander to disgruntled Bernie supporters who will have to choose another candidate in the general. If all Sanders supporters wanted was anti-establishment, then Trump is willing to take those bernie bros with open arms. Trump is definitely trying to get those bernie supporters who are bitter that they are expected to vote for hillary should (when) bernie lose(s). We saw that pandering in his speech when he talks about how unfairly Sanders has been treated.
Dangansona
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Even though I self-knowingly put the establishment in quotes like that, it refers to in this instance what it has always referred to: The media and the Democratic party who never thought he stood a chance.
It's probably one of the smartest things he's done this campaign. Besides the whole "I'll be as loud and dumb as possible" strategy. But the Bernie supporters I talk to at least saw right through it. But to some degree I'm sure it will work and we will be collectively condescended per usual.
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