Steve Youngblood
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There's not really anything worth pondering here. No matter what they do, it will assuredly be the superior version. Doing the bare minimum of all DLC and/or minor graphical enhancements will already make it "superior."
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Almost willing to bet that Ice Climbers will be in Smash NX. Let's speculate
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There's not really anything worth pondering here. No matter what they do, it will assuredly be the superior version. Doing the bare minimum of all DLC and/or minor graphical enhancements will already make it "superior."
Troubled Bat
Member
You guys are getting my hopes up.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Two things I would like to mentions.
1. We have no clue about the team's size. However, it's possible that Smash NX team might be larger than DLC team, but not huge as Smash 4 team so they could get some contents done with. I think they are going to add new single player contents to Smash NX to demonstrate NX's potentials and (maybe) uniqueness.
If the size of the team fall between small DLC team and huge smash 4 team, I could see them doing 4-6 characters easily but it really have to depend on other contents that they are planning to add. Single Player modes, Stages, Characters, trophies, etc. They already had it easy by having those assets ready so they don't really have to spend most of their times to rework on those characters because they are already done.
DLC Team = 7 characters, 8 stages, handful of trophies in 13 months or so.
Smash 4 Team = 51 characters, 84 stages, over 1000 trophies, many single player modes with schedule of two years and half.
If anything, if we are going to get new contents so I could imagine that their team might little more bigger than DLC team.
2. I know there is a rumor that Smash Bros is going to be launch title for new console but that don't really meant that it would be out on day 1. 6 months after console's release date is considered as launch titles in a sense according to Nintendo, IIRC. I could see them going to release Smash NX after E3 2017.
Anything is possible tho.
Same here. I think it's pretty easy to convince me to purchase Smash NX by offering new contents in the game. That's it.
Nothing against Emily Rogers. I still think she's riding on Toto's rumor. At least, I could use her twitter as a source for new thread I'm working on.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I actually wonder if people still found Link's face annoying nowadays? I know people were making a huge deal about it before the game came out but it's hard to notice during battles.
While yes, it could mean more characters, there are a number of other ways to make the NX version "superior".
- All of the DLC included in one package.
- The 3DS stages being included in the game.
- Custom moves & Palutena's Guidances for the DLC characters
- Better performance (AA, for example)
- And many more...
OnionPowder
Member
There would be a serious problem if Smash NX wasn't superior to the Wii U version.
TheLegendOfCap
Member
Honestly I would have no problem, NO PROBLEM, whatsoever if they decided to not make Smash Bros. 5 and instead focus on adding characters and stages to NX Smash Bros.
MrSaturn99
Member
Knowing now that the NX is coming out a year later already has my mind swirling with possibilities that shouldn't be swirling around.
3ds stages 3ds stages 3ds stages PLEEAAAAAAAAASEEEE
3ds stages 3ds stages 3ds stages PLEEAAAAAAAAASEEEE
custom music uploader via SD card, smash run and 3DS trophies would be nice too
I would. Regardless of how much content you throw at a game for however long, the game will eventually become stale. There will be a need for an actual Smash 5 in the near future, one that not only fixes the mistakes of Smash 4's gameplay but also improves on what it did right. As (Ultra) Street Fighter IV & Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 proved, you can't support the same game forever without the audience eventually growing bored of it. Sure, the Smash 4 port can buy time for Nintendo to get a genuine Smash 5 out the door, but it shouldn't replace an actual Smash 5.
Dimitri LH
Member
....well this thread brought back some memories ha. Seems like the fun/
train never stops for us.
DESPAIR!
TheDinoman
Member
UMVC3 had the opposite problem, though. It wasn't supported enough, thus people began to lose interest.
TheDinoman
Member
Maybe as an assist trophy. One-off Zelda characters never become playable characters in Smash.
EDIT: Okay, there's Sheik, but she's an extension of the one of the most important characters from that series and is essentially a carry over from when transformations were a thing in Smash.
Which breaks my heart, though I mean in terms of people playing the game. USF4 demonstrates more of the idea of the game being supported for too long.
Uhhhh I don't think you do if the current online can barely consistently have good 4 player matches...
8 players = 8 different connections which = more possibility for just a bad match. I can't imagine the nightmare that would be to try and even remotely get to that to work well enough to be worth it.
But hey I mean if they do it, great. I have the option to ignore it.
I'd rather they expanded on the multiplayer in general and possibly included things people still want (offline tournament mode for instance). Or fixing Tourney Mode so you can actually have 1v1 and team rooms.
Trust me, no you don't. It'll only bring more chances of a shitty connection.
Triforce141
Member
I think people only notice when they take pictures now.
Define "superior".
OnionPowder
Member
Any definition of superior
-Better Graphics
-All released content so far
-New content
If it didn't have any of those then there would be a serious issue.
Complete with Rock Pikmin in rotation. That'd be dope.
That was actually supposed to happen, but it didn't due to time constraints.
Which is why I could see it happening if there's going to be a roster update. Shouldn't be much effort, and it gives them an excuse to make more amiibo.
TheDinoman
Member
To be fair, Nintendo recently announced we're getting recolored Inkling amiibos. I wouldn't be surprised if they made amiibos for the alt costumes in Smash 4 like female Robin, male WFT, Wireframe Little Mac, Alph, the Koopalings, etc
Making full-on alternate costume Amiibos would be quite the undertaking, especially when you consider...
- Iggy
- Larry
- Lemmy
- Ludwig
- Morton
- Roy
- Wendy
- Classic Wario
- Hoodie Little Mac
- Wireframe Little Mac
- Hoodie Wireframe Little Mac
- Zero Mission Zero Suit Samus
- Metroid Fusion Zero Suit Samus
- Female Robin
- Female Villager 1 (pink hair, flower dress)
- Male Villager 2 (brown hair, yellow #6 shirt)
- Female Villager 2 (brown hair, green dress)
- Male Villager 3/"High Villager" (dopey eyes, sky blue & white shirt, brown hair)
- Female Villager 3 (3 pigtails, blue & yellow dress)
- Male Villager 4 (brown hair styled similarly to Male Villager 2, 4-Ball shirt)
- Female Villager 4 (3 pigtails like Female Villager 3, light green & white shirt)
- Swimsuit Shulk
- Advent Children Cloud
- (Possibly) Advent Children Cloud w/ Aerith's Ribbon
- Female Corrin
- Bayonetta 1/"A Witch With No Memories" Bayonetta
A Link to the Past
Banned
Making full-on alternate costume Amiibos would be quite the undertaking, especially when you consider...
- Iggy
- Larry
- Lemmy
- Ludwig
- Morton
- Roy
- Wendy
- Classic Wario
- Hoodie Little Mac
- Wireframe Little Mac
- Hoodie Wireframe Little Mac
- Zero Mission Zero Suit Samus
- Metroid Fusion Zero Suit Samus
- Female Robin
- Female Villager 1 (pink hair, flower dress)
- Male Villager 2 (brown hair, yellow #6 shirt)
- Female Villager 2 (brown hair, green dress)
- Male Villager 3/"High Villager" (dopey eyes, sky blue & white shirt, brown hair)
- Female Villager 3 (3 pigtails, blue & yellow dress)
- Male Villager 4 (brown hair styled similarly to Male Villager 2, 4-Ball shirt)
- Female Villager 4 (3 pigtails like Female Villager 3, light green & white shirt)
- Swimsuit Shulk
- Advent Children Cloud
- (Possibly) Advent Children Cloud w/ Aerith's Ribbon
- Female Corrin
- Bayonetta 1/"A Witch With No Memories" Bayonetta
To be fair, there is simply no excuse for why Classic Wario doesn't exist as an amiibo.
As an aside, my ideal Koopalings amiibo would be a giant-sized amiibo of a large Koopa Clown Car with all seven Koopalings inside.
Vermillion
Banned
I can't see new characters.
I can see graphical enhancements, all of the modes, all of the music, and all of the stages.
I can see graphical enhancements, all of the modes, all of the music, and all of the stages.
Note that our only info on this game is unofficial (Serkan Toto, Emily Rogers). We don't actually know that Nintendo will market it as a port of Smash Brothers for Wii U. It's actually rather unlikely (Smash Brothers for Wii U for NX...lulz).
Even if they are porting the Wii U game as a starting point, that doesn't mean that the product they release will be just the Wii U game on a different platform. In my opinion, this will be presented as a new Smash Brothers for the NX even if it proves to be more of a straight sequel than Melee/Brawl.
Even if they are porting the Wii U game as a starting point, that doesn't mean that the product they release will be just the Wii U game on a different platform. In my opinion, this will be presented as a new Smash Brothers for the NX even if it proves to be more of a straight sequel than Melee/Brawl.
Bamco is going to bring the true iM@S 3 to NX (Platinum Stars is just a stopgap). To mark the occasion and to promote the game they're getting a second guest character to go along with Pac-man. We all know who that is:
I have absolutely no idea why, i don't even know who this is, what series this is, yet, for some reason, i really, REALLY hate this gif.
Also it's worth noting that the NX Smash is at least a year or so away. We got 6 DLC characters for Smash Wii U in about that time.
Porting will require effort but the assets aren't terribly outdated since SSB4 is only a few years old (less than 2 actually). The target system will be more powerful so they won't have to downgrade either. Unless there's a ton of PPC assembly to rewrite, I don't expect it should be too hard to do the basic port and build on that.
Porting will require effort but the assets aren't terribly outdated since SSB4 is only a few years old (less than 2 actually). The target system will be more powerful so they won't have to downgrade either. Unless there's a ton of PPC assembly to rewrite, I don't expect it should be too hard to do the basic port and build on that.
It's Haruka Amami from the Xenoblade prequel Xenoglossia.
There will absolutely be new characters. Makes no sense not to add at least something. There's a few reasons for this.
For one, as Steve Youngblood pointed out, if this really is a launch game, it's because they want to incentivize people (including Wii U owners) to get the NX day 1. New characters in Smash Bros. guarantees the NX to at least have a good start. Wii U owners won't give a shit if it's just the same game. Also, Kimishima keeps stressing how well Smash DLC has sold. Do you really think they're going to abandon such a profitable venture? Characters in Smash are a huge seller.
Second, amiibo. The Smash Bros. line is far and away the most successful amiibo line, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Adding new characters is such an easy way to get more amiibo sales, and it would be the easiest way to make sure NX has new amiibo on day 1.
I'm gonna be optimistic and say we get 9 more characters. My realistic-ish personal wish list would be:
And in my dreams, Pichu and Snake would also come back, and add in newcomers Ridley and the Squid Sisters~
For one, as Steve Youngblood pointed out, if this really is a launch game, it's because they want to incentivize people (including Wii U owners) to get the NX day 1. New characters in Smash Bros. guarantees the NX to at least have a good start. Wii U owners won't give a shit if it's just the same game. Also, Kimishima keeps stressing how well Smash DLC has sold. Do you really think they're going to abandon such a profitable venture? Characters in Smash are a huge seller.
Second, amiibo. The Smash Bros. line is far and away the most successful amiibo line, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Adding new characters is such an easy way to get more amiibo sales, and it would be the easiest way to make sure NX has new amiibo on day 1.
I'm gonna be optimistic and say we get 9 more characters. My realistic-ish personal wish list would be:
- Inkling
- Chorus Kids
- Dixie Kong
- Captain Toad
- Pokémon Sun/Moon character (grass starter?)
- Some retro character (Balloon Fighter?)
- Some 3rd party character (A Dragon Quest character?)
- Ice Climbers
- Wolf
And in my dreams, Pichu and Snake would also come back, and add in newcomers Ridley and the Squid Sisters~
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm not sure if there would be a serious problem if we are going to be 1:1 straight port because there is a chance that NX might have bigger install base than Wii U did. Therefore whoever skipped Smash U would buy Smash NX but some fans already mention that they wouldn't double dip if port didn't have any new contents.
Now we know release date for NX so it's possible that they could pull "Melee" in term of development and release schedule since Melee was in development for 13 months and they managed to get the game ready for GameCube's launch. Either way, I'm fine with Smash 4 Port with new contents (it also could included 3DS stages as well) OR Smash 5.
It's fun to speculate the game but we are actually expect the worst but hope for the best.
I rarely have a bad connection for online FFA but I think 8 players online might push it pretty hard because it might cause so many lags. However, I might be okay if they just bump it to 5 players since I have many cases where 5th person had to sit out sometime.
My condolences since I don't really have that problem on my ends. I guess it's a matter of finding right people to play with and lucks.
Fair enough. It was pretty rare for me to take a picture middle of the game.
I really hope so. Alph was SO close to become playable character. They ran out of time because making a clone with pikmin might consume more times with development or beta test than normal clones without complicating mechanism.
I'm fine with it but I would pick up some alternative costume amiibo like Koopalings, Alph, etc.
MrSaturn99
Member
man I'd be all over Koopaling amiibos
Iggy and Morton would be tooooooo good
Iggy and Morton would be tooooooo good
Bamco is going to bring the true iM@S 3 to NX (Platinum Stars is just a stopgap). To mark the occasion and to promote the game they're getting a second guest character to go along with Pac-man. We all know who that is:
Yayoi would be a much better pick than her.
Bamco is going to bring the true iM@S 3 to NX (Platinum Stars is just a stopgap). To mark the occasion and to promote the game they're getting a second guest character to go along with Pac-man. We all know who that is:
who?
The12thGripper
Member
give me ice climbers, local tournament mode (don't think I forgot about it, sakurai) and all dlc on disc and you have my $60
anything else is a bonus
anything else is a bonus
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Of course, we are aware of our information not being official but it's really normal for the leaks to happens tho. I really have good faith in Mr. Toto so far so I don't think he would share it if he wasn't even sure. For Emily Rogers, I have no clue where she get her source from so I just presume that she probably use Toto's words.
Yeah, that's why I'm entertaining with the notion about potential Smash 5 or upgraded Smash 4 Port. With Sakurai, it's really hard to predict what he's going to do since anything is possibilities with him being on the team. It's quite exciting to consider many potential outcomes because it's first time for us to be in this situation.
Yep, I have been pointing it out in previous page(s) since it's all depend on the team's size. If the team is bigger than DLC team then we might get more characters but it's really depend on their goal for final product. Also Smash 4 assets are still fresh so I don't really see them change anything that were in Smash 4.
Oh you. (Psst. he's lying through his teeth.)
Yep, I already made a lot of arguments that there is a good chance that we might get new contents and it actually make senses when I think about it. Also it's brilliant to work on Smash 5 or Smash 4 Port so early so they could retain all third party characters easily from Smash 3DS and U (Hopefully).
1. Amiibo. There are so many fans that would do anything to complete their Smash Bros collection. I'm pretty sure that they are willing to buy more Amiibo if we are going to get more characters so that's pretty good money for us.
2. DLC. I'm still not convinced that Third Party DLC characters would be bundled within "superior" version but I would be glad to be wrong on that case. They really need to include Palutena's Guidance, Custom Moves, etc for those DLC characters as well.
3. Smash Ballot. Do anyone honestly think we are going to ended with only one (or two) character(s) from Smash Ballot during DLC development. I have a feeling that they are going to use the poll/ballot for upcoming development. I sincerely hope that they are going to get some ideas from Ballot for Smash NX.
4.Sakurai. He already stats that he really enjoy to spend his times working on Smash Bros. because he really enjoy to work on interesting characters like Ryu, Cloud, etc. Also he is unsure that staffs are ready to work on Smash Bros without him, and we already know how much he really love Smash Bros franchise as if it's his baby.
5. Roster. It's his chance to include Ice Climbers in the game because we already know how he reacted toward to characters being cut. He really dislike to cut characters because he know the fans would be disappointed to see their favorite characters being gone. Also he claimed that it's his goal to make best character roster in Smash 4 so it's his chance to push it even more further with more newcomers and veterans. Yes, I found the roster in Smash 4 very incredible. With new IP, so I felt that there is one character that should be in Smash Bros at any cost which is anyone from Splatoon.
I know I could list more but I'm going to take a break on that!
Just Wonder Red? Do you have any other characters that you would like to see?
I do have a feeling that Wonderful 101 might have a good shot to become playable character in upcoming Smash. I dunno why but I think Sakurai might appreciate them as characters that could bring the uniqueness in the game.
The character literally have no shot to be in Smash Bros.
Troubled Bat
Member
If Smash NX launched with 4-6 new characters.. Man, that would be amazing.
Like.. Seriously, what the hell is she even getting at?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Also I want to remind everyone on two articles here.
It's his chance to push the roster even more further!
Yeah, I understand how he felt on that subject. I feel bad for Jawmuncher, EskimoJoe, BossDoggie, PreyingShark and some members here because their characters didn't make their appearances in Smash 4. I wonder if Sakurai would grab the opportunity to include those characters again (I'm still not sure about Snake because of the situation but I'm talking about Ice Climbers and Wolf.)
It's his chance to push the roster even more further!
Yeah, I understand how he felt on that subject. I feel bad for Jawmuncher, EskimoJoe, BossDoggie, PreyingShark and some members here because their characters didn't make their appearances in Smash 4. I wonder if Sakurai would grab the opportunity to include those characters again (I'm still not sure about Snake because of the situation but I'm talking about Ice Climbers and Wolf.)
Hot Coldman
Banned
Banjo & Kazooie playable, with Goldeneye being added to Rare Replay and the original Diddy Kong Racing available on NX Virtual Console. Book it.
(I'm talking nonsense but this should absolutely be something Nintendo and Microsoft should negotiate)
(I'm talking nonsense but this should absolutely be something Nintendo and Microsoft should negotiate)