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[Troubled Bat]

Banjo & Kazooie making it in. My dreams. I would never leave Smash.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Also I want to remind everyone on two articles here.



It's his chance to push the roster even more further!



Yeah, I understand how he felt on that subject. I feel bad for Jawmuncher, EskimoJoe, BossDoggie, PreyingShark and some members here because their characters didn't make their appearances in Smash 4. I wonder if Sakurai would grab the opportunity to include those characters again (I'm still not sure about Snake because of the situation but I'm talking about Ice Climbers and Wolf.)

“The new Smash Bros. is being developed by Bandai Namco Games and one of Namco’s most famous characters is of course, Heihachi.” Sakurai cracks a smile. “Just kidding. As he has such a long history, we did our best to bring Pac-Man into the series.”

that's so brutal oh my god

 

[IntelliHeath]

Banjo & Kazooie playable, with Goldeneye being added to Rare Replay and the original Diddy Kong Racing available on NX Virtual Console. Book it.

(I'm talking nonsense but this should absolutely be something Nintendo and Microsoft should negotiate)

I'm up for Banjo & Kazooie and Master Chief as playable in Smash Bros. :V I meant we got Mr. RPG, Mr. Fighter and Mr. Arcade so why not Mr. Shooter?

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I know it's very incredible unlikely but I'm just humoring the thought of it tho.

 

[Menitta]

Just Wonder Red? Do you have any other characters that you would like to see?

I do have a feeling that Wonderful 101 might have a good shot to become playable character in upcoming Smash. I dunno why but I think Sakurai might appreciate them as characters that could bring the uniqueness in the game.

Not just Wonder Red, but he's up there. Shovel Knight, but he's not that likely. Heihachi which is probably more likely than Snake. If Bayonetta wasn't already in, then she would be another character. There are more characters that would instantly make me get it, but they're extremely unrealistic.

My point was there's not much they can really do to make me get another version of Smash 4. I already put enough money into this game. If Smash NX just has Ice Climbers, Wolf, another Fire Emblem character, and a few exclusive stages, then I'll pass.

 

[Muzy72]

Also, to add to Heath's list, this also gives Sakurai a chance to get Smash done with early in the generation so he's free to work on whatever he wants for the remainder of the NX generation.

It's really a win-win-win for consumers, Nintendo, and Sakurai.

And before Neoxon chimes in saying we'll need a "proper" Smash 5 later in the generation because the FGC will get bored of it, Sakurai doesn't give a shit about the FGC. He and Nintendo are not going to base their decisions around their needs. New content (characters etc) will be enough to keep 90% of the Smash fan base happy with this game for the rest of the NX's lifecycle. There's no need for another Smash game, because 1) this isn't "Smash 4" or "Smash 5," it's simply "Super Smash Bros. for NX" and 2) no one really gives a shit if it's not a new engine.

 

[Menitta]

Also, to add to Heath's list, this also gives Sakurai a chance to get Smash done with early in the generation so he's free to work on whatever he wants for the remainder of the NX generation.

It's really a win-win-win for consumers, Nintendo, and Sakurai.

And before Neoxon chimes in saying we'll need a "proper" Smash 5 later in the generation because the FGC will get bored of it, Sakurai doesn't give a shit about the FGC. He and Nintendo are not going to base their decisions around their needs.

Sakurai isn't Nintendo. Don't forget that they announced Brawl before asking Sakurai to make it. If Sakurai said no, Brawl still would've happened. That's a Quantum Leap episode I want to see.

 

[L Thammy]

I'm just going to keep posting this until I win.

 

[Sami+]

My problem -- as stated before -- is just that I don't think it makes for a compelling launch title. If the team feels like they've taken Smash 4 as far as they can take it and are too burnt out to create any meaningful new content, I feel as though a Smash 4 port is still a viable thing to release for the platform, but just not a launch title. Just porting a game of the year edition with all DLC included is fine if you're a third party getting your feet wet on new hardware to gauge interest in your software. But as a platform-holder, your job is to release system-selling software.

Now, it's still a two-year-old game (at least). I'm not saying that a few characters and stages is going to be good enough to be considered a brand new game that's really going to move hardware. But my take is that you need some effort in the realm of content creation to make it worthy of being a launch title. Even including Smash Run and the 3DS exclusive stages in addition to all the Wii U stuff doesn't strike me as all that exciting of a definitive edition. Not that Nintendo would exclusively be targeting people like me, but I already have the 3DS and Wii U versions and all the DLC that isn't Mii costumes. The prospect of buying a third version isn't something that has me pumped up about the NX.

And not that I'm confident in this prediction or anything, but all the speculation we've heard (which obviously can be taken with a grain of salt) talks about how they're working on just an NX version. If it's just an Ultimate Edition port, my suspicion is that they would simply state that a Definitive Edition is being worked on that would release on NX as well. If it's just a port with all the DLC, that could be released across all platforms. But chatter pointing towards working on an NX version has me hopeful about some degree of new content, because again I just feel like the alternative of a straight port is venturing too far into "what's the point?" territory if this is indeed a launch title.

But again, this is just speculation based on speculation. So it's not like I'm remotely confident in this analysis. Just my gut feeling based on what we know, or "know" if you will.

I think Smash's current standing as a competitive fighter with fairly good esports coverage is worth considering here though. At EVO 2015 Smash for Wii U and Melee were the second and third most popular games on the roster, with 1926 and 1869 entrants respectively. The third most popular game, Mortal Kombat X, trailed far behind at 1162. If the NX version gets even as few as two or three new characters that has an extreme effect on the meta that's going to require players and TO's to buy NX's. I'm not a top level player or anything but I do play competitively on a near daily basis and going to a national tournament without knowledge on, say, the Sonic/Ice Climber's matchup will put me at a big disadvantage against people who have the NX version if all I have to practice on is my Wii U- not to mention balance patches, if your character's frame data is tweaked in any way and you don't have the opportunity to mentally prepare for that while practicing at home, players who do have an NX will again have a noticeable advantage. More casual players will see top level play with these theoretical new characters as well, and if one of these new characters is mained by a player who consistently gets Top 8 at major tournaments it'll be a big selling point in my opinion.

I think a large portion of the Smash community, if not the grand majority, will be immediately compelled to buy an NX with a copy of the updated game if it's new content is exclusive, and it's a big enough audience that the relatively low development cost of a port makes it more than worth doing, especially when the Wii U version is going to become obsolete as a result and competitive players will feel disadvantaged if they don't upgrade.

Also, to add to Heath's list, this also gives Sakurai a chance to get Smash done with early in the generation so he's free to work on whatever he wants for the remainder of the NX generation.

It's really a win-win-win for consumers, Nintendo, and Sakurai.

And before Neoxon chimes in saying we'll need a "proper" Smash 5 later in the generation because the FGC will get bored of it, Sakurai doesn't give a shit about the FGC. He and Nintendo are not going to base their decisions around their needs. New content (characters etc) will be enough to keep 90% of the Smash fan base happy with this game for the rest of the NX's lifecycle. There's no need for another Smash game, because 1) this isn't "Smash 4" or "Smash 5," it's simply "Super Smash Bros. for NX" and 2) no one really gives a shit if it's not a new engine.

Lmfao it's been 15 years and the Melee community is still on an upward climb in the FGC. I think it'll be ok. 👌

 

[Menitta]

Now that I think about it, adding NX exclusive characters would be a really good

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scummy

way to get Smash faithfuls to buy their new console, so it's actually much more likely than I thought. Especially the way they've been pricing all of the Smash 4 DLC.

 

[TheDinoman]

You know what, screw reality and logistics, here's my totally unrealistic and yet hype Smash NX roster.

I even threw in Banjo and Snake and brought Simon Belmont along with him! The blank Pokemon spot is a stand in for anyone from the new games coming out.

On a more serious note, I wish Sakurai would move Yoshi over near the other Mario spinoff characters. To me it looks better and more cohesive that way. Not to mention it would also work with the chronological pattern of the CSS, considering Yoshi predated Wario, which predated Donkey Kong Country

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which predated banjo-kazooie

 

[Sami+]

Now that I think about it, adding NX exclusive characters would be a really good

Spoiler

scummy

way to get Smash faithfuls to buy their new console, so it's actually much more likely than I thought. Especially the way they've been pricing all of the Smash 4 DLC.

I don't think it's scummy at all. If Icee's couldn't be done because of the 3DS ball and chain I'd be more than happy to see characters designed without that limitation tying them down.

 

[dangeraaron10]

God I don't want to get back on this train.

IF there is a special shiny NX version of Smash I'm not wanting to set myself up for disappointment again. Honestly, I'd love to see the NX build off of Wii U and add things like 3DS exclusive stages, possibly the Ice Climbers and Wolf or even new ones like King K. Rool.

The Ballot era drained me.

 

[Menitta]

I don't think it's scummy at all. If Icee's couldn't be done because of the 3DS ball and chain I'd be more than happy to see characters designed without that limitation tying them down.

I think it's quite scummy considering that with the base game and all of the character+stage Wii U DLC (not including the 3DS bundles, Mii costumes, or the Gamecube adapter) it ends up costing over $100. Then there's the NX exclusive character that the people who already spent so much on the Wii U version can't buy unless they spend the price of a new console and $60 MORE on the port. Console exclusive characters in fighting games are the fucking worst.

 

[Mockingbird]

I'm buying it no matter what but if they add even just 1 new character it will be beyond my expectations.

I think it's quite scummy considering that with the base game and all of the character+stage Wii U DLC (not including the 3DS bundles, Mii costumes, or the Gamecube adapter) it ends up costing over $100. Then there's the NX exclusive character that the people who already spent so much on the Wii U version can't buy unless they spend the price of a new console and $60 MORE on the port. Console exclusive characters in fighting games are the fucking worst.

So entitled.

 

[Jawmuncher]

You know what, screw reality and logistics, here's my totally unrealistic and yet hype Smash NX roster.

I even threw in Banjo and Snake and brought Simon Belmont along with him! The blank Pokemon spot is a stand in for anyone from the new games coming out.

On a more serious note, I wish Sakurai would move Yoshi over near the other Mario spinoff characters. To me it looks better and more cohesive that way. Not to mention it would also work with the chronological pattern of the CSS, considering Yoshi predated Wario, which predated Donkey Kong Country

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which predated banjo-kazooie

Day 1 buy it snake comes back. Not even joking.

 

[dangeraaron10]

I think it's quite scummy considering that with the base game and all of the character+stage Wii U DLC (not including the 3DS bundles, Mii costumes, or the Gamecube adapter) it ends up costing over $100. Then there's the NX exclusive character that the people who already spent so much on the Wii U version can't buy unless they spend the price of a new console and $60 MORE on the port. Console exclusive characters in fighting games are the fucking worst.

I personally think that having a Smash Bros for NX will be an opportunity to go balls to the wall with exclusive content in the name of pushing the NX. Forgo console roster parity as NX is a new generation beyond Wii U and 3DS, bring back the Ice Climbers, and at least a handful of new characters like Inklings, King K. Rool, etc. and stages from both the Wii U version and 3DS version. Build on the current game as it was built with being built-upon in mind.

It makes sense. Possibly too much sense for Nintendo.

 

[WonderRade]

id rather get exclusive chars on the main console even if i have to pay for it. That way dev time doesnt get so split up.

 

[Neoxon]

Lmfao it's been 15 years and the Melee community is still on an upward climb in the FGC. I think it'll be ok. 👌

That's just it, the FGC usually sticks with games longer than casuals. If the FGC will eventually get bored of a game, imagine how soon casuals will stop giving a shit.

 

[Daouzin]

Unless the NX version has a "Melee" mode I'm not really interested. I haven't even bothered to buy Bayonetta and I was legitimately excited for her announcement.

I think Smash NX should be a port of Smash 4 and include HD versions of all previous Smash games, minus PM of course.

I feel like that would UNIFY the Smash community and that would be such good PR. Melee fans are not stopping and are being regularly featured on ESPN eSports, Red Bull eSports, Mashable and so on.

They need to get in on the hype train. Partner with the olympics, let's go!

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Never giving up!

 

[Menitta]

I'm sorry, how is not wanting to spend $400 "entitled"? I'm not saying I expect them to be consumer friendly. Knowing Nintendo, they probably won't be. I'm just saying I'd like it if they would. I really hope they add a lot of new content. If its exclusive, fine, as long as there's enough to warrant buying it again. If they decide to not put enough new content into Smash NX, then fine. I won't buy it.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Sakurai isn't Nintendo. Don't forget that they announced Brawl before asking Sakurai to make it. If Sakurai said no, Brawl still would've happened. That's a Quantum Leap episode I want to see.

You're wrong on that account. If Sakurai said no, they would have port Melee to Wii and slap an online mode on it. That's it. They already confirmed it in one of those interview.

 

[Menitta]

You're wrong on that account. If Sakurai said no, they would have port Melee to Wii and slap an online mode on it. That's it. They already confirmed it in one of those interview.

Wow. I didn't know that. Damn. I wonder how many people got upset after reading that.

Edit: Actually, now that I think about Brawl's online...

 

[Hylian7]

Honestly I don't want a Smash 5, I just want them to build on top of Smash 4.

Inklings are a given. Give me Waluigi.

Agreed, Smash 4 is damn near perfect. No need to make a whole new game. I'm satisfied with this one.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

I think it's quite scummy considering that with the base game and all of the character+stage Wii U DLC (not including the 3DS bundles, Mii costumes, or the Gamecube adapter) it ends up costing over $100. Then there's the NX exclusive character that the people who already spent so much on the Wii U version can't buy unless they spend the price of a new console and $60 MORE on the port. Console exclusive characters in fighting games are the fucking worst.

lol wut.

Its not console exclusive characters. Even if its the WiiU game with all content ported, if NX version has new characters (it will) any new characters makes it Smash 5, and Nintendo would market it as a Smash 3DS/WiiU sequel. It'd be considered a new game regardless. If Smash 3DS/WiiU, considering how hard it was to have parity with characters, then a Smash NX that has new characters not in Smash 3DS/WiiU makes it a sequel. A quick sequel is nothing too out've the ordinary for Nintendo. Even Smash had one with Melee previously.

 

[Menitta]

lol wut.

Its not console exclusive characters. Even if its the WiiU game with all content ported, if NX version has new characters (it will) any new characters makes it Smash 5, and Nintendo would market it as a Smash 3DS/WiiU sequel. It'd be considered a new game regardless. If Smash 3DS/WiiU, considering how hard it was to have parity with characters, then a Smash NX that has new characters not in Smash 3DS/WiiU makes it a sequel. A quick sequel is nothing too out've the ordinary for Nintendo. Even Smash had one with Melee previously.

My scenario is if they add like...3 new characters and 3 stages. If they do advertise it as Smash 5, then of course there'd be a lot of new content. All DLC with 12 or so new characters and stages with a new mode is enough for me.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

You know what, screw reality and logistics, here's my totally unrealistic and yet hype Smash NX roster.

I even threw in Banjo and Snake and brought Simon Belmont along with him! The blank Pokemon spot is a stand in for anyone from the new games coming out.

On a more serious note, I wish Sakurai would move Yoshi over near the other Mario spinoff characters. To me it looks better and more cohesive that way. Not to mention it would also work with the chronological pattern of the CSS, considering Yoshi predated Wario, which predated Donkey Kong Country

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which predated banjo-kazooie

No way in hell would we get Duck Hunt, Bayonetta, two Pits, six Fire Emblem characters, Dr. Mario back or especially Cloud Strife of all characters, all in the same game. Be realistic here!

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Real talk here, I'd appreciate Smash NX redoing the CSS so clones and the DLC characters were with their proper franchises and everybody was listed in order of when their original appearance was. Never quite understood why Bowser was listed after Peach in Brawl onwards when he shows up before her in their debut game.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

That's just it, the FGC usually sticks with games longer than casuals. If the FGC will eventually get bored of a game, imagine how soon casuals will stop giving a shit.

Nintendo shipped a million copies of Brawl last year.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150204044220/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html

 

[Tavernacle12]

IF Smash NX is real and they're going to add a veteran back in, Ice Climbers are the obvious answer.

IF Smah NX is real and they're going to add more characters at all, Ice Climbers are likely, but it's entirely possible they go a different direction with limited new characters (such as prioritizing Splatoon or a new IP).

IF Smash NX is real but just a quick upgrade to a more powerful system, I don't think we'd nessesarily get any additional content from what's currently out there.

Basically we have no idea if the game really exists, what it would be, AND this is Nintendo/Sakurai do anything could happen.They went with Corrin over Splatoon. They somehow managed to get Cloud and Ryu in the game. We really have no idea (good or bad) what's coming.

 

[Daouzin]

Nintendo shipped a million copies of Brawl last year.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150204044220/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wii.html

A lot of people were interested in PM.

 

[mStudios]

PM is deader than Sony's carbon copy.

Give it time.

 

[Menitta]

PM is deader than Sony's carbon copy.

Give it time.

I wish PlayStation All Stars was a carbon copy.

It's just Smash bros but worse.

 

[Starphoenix]

With the NX being much farther out than originally thought (and possibly even later), I'm pretty sure they'll incentivize the game by adding new content. My biggest worry was that there would be too much pressure on Sakurai after having come off long development of the Wii U and 3DS version, but with a potential year/year and a half release away, that is plenty of time to add some extra stuff.

 

[Diffense]

A lot of people were interested in PM.

Which is an update of Brawl not an entirely new game. Seems to support the argument that updates can retain interest. Smash for NX will be a new game even if Sm4sh is its point of departure. Nintendo had assigned the Wii U and 3DS versions sequential version numbers and Sakurai was careful to differentiate the Wii U and 3DS games although they were basically simultaneous releases. Smash for NX will be Smash 6, not 5, and certainly not any kind of 4.

Anyway, I'm pretty convinced that there was no Inkling DLC because they will be the major addition to the next game. There could have been technical reasons as well (eg. 3DS) but I also think Sakurai reserved them to make a splash later. Splatoon, for all its real world popularity, has been curiously ignored in Smash so far, with the exception of a few costumes (while Mario Maker got a DLC stage and FE got another character). Smash with different colored Inkling boy and girl alts + Callie and Marie will be huge on the NX.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Also, to add to Heath's list, this also gives Sakurai a chance to get Smash done with early in the generation so he's free to work on whatever he wants for the remainder of the NX generation.

It's really a win-win-win for consumers, Nintendo, and Sakurai.

That's actually good point there. That's probably why Sakurai is willing to do it to get it over with before he move on to brand new project.

I'm buying it no matter what but if they add even just 1 new character it will be beyond my expectations.

Yep, I'm in same position as you're in.

I personally think that having a Smash Bros for NX will be an opportunity to go balls to the wall with exclusive content in the name of pushing the NX. Forgo console roster parity as NX is a new generation beyond Wii U and 3DS, bring back the Ice Climbers, and at least a handful of new characters like Inklings, King K. Rool, etc. and stages from both the Wii U version and 3DS version. Build on the current game as it was built with being built-upon in mind.

It makes sense. Possibly too much sense for Nintendo.

It actually make sense but I understand why people don't want to get their expectation high for this because we don't really know what Nintendo and Sakurai are up to. We wouldn't find out for other 6-7 months.

 

[KingBroly]

I'm betting on Cranky Kong. So many people lost their collective shits at him being playable in DKCTF that it'd fit Sakurai's troll-ish humor to make him playable. He'd also be pretty unique with his pogo ability. He'd also be the oldest character in the game by far.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

A lot of people were interested in PM.

A million people were interested in a mod targeted for a niche audience among niche audiences, in the last year of PM's life? Doubt it. Look at how Mario Kart Wii went up by a million too, and by how Brawl was still selling if you go further back in the archives. That's the trend you should be focusing on.

If a game is good and appeals to a broad amount of people, there will always be an audience of new people, ESPECIALLY if you keep the product fresh via constant updates to keep people hooked. This shouldn't even be in question.

Which is an update of Brawl not an entirely new game. Seems to support the argument that updates can retain interest. Smash for NX will be a new game even if Sm4sh is its point of departure. Nintendo had assigned the Wii U and 3DS versions sequential version numbers and Sakurai was careful to differentiate the Wii U and 3DS games although they were basically simultaneous releases. Smash for NX will be Smash 6, not 5, and certainly not any kind of 4.

This too.

 

[dangeraaron10]

That's actually good point there. That's probably why Sakurai is willing to do it to get it over with before he move on to brand new project.



Yep, I'm in same position as you're in.



It actually make sense but I understand why people don't want to get their expectation high for this because we don't really know what Nintendo and Sakurai are up to. We wouldn't find out for other 6-7 months.

That's true. I'm in the same boat as you are. Believe me I spent nearly a year of my life when you combine Pre-Release, Launch, and the Ballot era obsessing over this game and setting my expectations too high and becoming too emotionally invested in it. More content in the NX version, if one exists (which I think is far more likely it will), is always a nice thought and something I obviously want, but I have to try to not "expect" that.

 

[Nanashrew]

Smash will likely become a service game so I can see plenty of characters joining the game. Even characters Sakurai wanted before but never had the time to make real. I definitely see Ice Climbers returning. There was also a time he was interested in Plusle and Minun too, so that would be cool.

 

[Menitta]

I can't handle another 10 months of arguing with my friend about how shitty of a villain King K Rool is. He thought Rool was more likely that Bayonetta.

Smash will likely become a service game so I can see plenty of characters joining the game. Even characters Sakurai wanted before but never had the time to make real. I definitely see Ice Climbers returning. There was also a time he was interested in Plusle and Minun too, so that would be cool.

I'd love Plusle and Minun.

 

[jnWake]

I'm also in the camp that believes Smash NX will add new characters. I'm not expecting too many of them, but something like 4 to 6. Ice Climbers, Wolf, Inkling, Dixie Kong and Rhytm Heaven character. Snake if possible too.

Main reasons I expect this are the potential dev time (especially now), the fact that Nintendo would want existing Smash users to upgrade, Sakurai hating cutting characters and the Smash Ballot. The data collected there has to be put to a better use than just 1 DLC character.

I'd also expect Smash NX to improve some smaller things. Custom moves and Palutena Guidances for all the cast. All/most stages from 3DS added. Single player featuring the best of each game. New/returning Single Player modes maybe, like traditional Break the Targets. Some sort of Adventure Mode would be glorious but extremely doubtful. Also, new events for DLC/new characters.

 

[mStudios]

I can't handle another 10 months of arguing with my friend about how shitty of a villain King K Rool is. He thought Rool was more likely that Bayonetta.



I'd love Plusle and Minun.

Anyone who wants K.K. Rool on smash, should re-evaluate life, completely.

 

[dangeraaron10]

I can't handle another 10 months of arguing with my friend about how shitty of a villain King K Rool is. He thought Rool was more likely that Bayonetta.



I'd love Plusle and Minun.

To be dead honest I thought K. Rool was more likely than Bayonetta too. There were a lot of characters I thought were more likely than Bayonetta going off of uncountable polls, gamexplain videos, size of support groups and social media presence, etc. In fact I thought Inklings would be surefire at one point, and I thought Wolf had a 90% chance of getting in.

I thought Cloud was just a fanboy fantasy that was totally impossible, and Ryu was actually called out by Sakurai at an earlier point of wanting to avoid fighting game characters.

And look where we are now. Sakurai will put in whoever he wants. I thought Corrin would be impossible considering: there's already 5 frickin Fire Emblem characters and Sakurai said "It would be fanservice from here on out" and Corrin's game hasn't even released in all regions at the time.

And look where we are now.

Nope

I don't want back on this train.

Anyone who wants K.K. Rool on smash, should re-evaluate life, completely.

Okay, I get it that a lot of people on NeoGAF seem to dislike the character and his fans, but doesn't that sound even a wee bit harsh over a video game character and people's preferences? Take a chill pill, man.

This is why I don't want back on the train.

 

[MrSaturn99]

A million people were interested in a mod targeted for a niche audience among niche audiences, in the last year of PM's life? Doubt it. Look at how Mario Kart Wii went up by a million too, and by how Brawl was still selling if you go further back in the archives. That's the trend you should be focusing on.

If a game is good and appeals to a broad amount of people, there will always be an audience of new people, ESPECIALLY if you keep the product fresh via constant updates to keep people hooked. This shouldn't even be in question.



This too.

Pretty much. I'm also certain the mass interest in Smash 4 provided some overlap.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Sakurai this is your last chance to fix Ganondorf pls do it pls he deserves better :"(

 

[dangeraaron10]

Sakurai this is your last chance to fix Ganondorf pls do it pls he deserves better :"(

Ganondorf will forever be an aspiring F-Zero Racer. Especially if we are all correct in thinking there will be an NX version of Smash which is basically an upgraded version of Smash 4 Wii U/3DS. I think it's getting too hopeful thinking there might be new characters, and downright silly they'd overhaul any unless it was needed for balance.

 

[Menitta]

I'd much rather be discussing the possibility of Pokken DLC. No matter what the outcome is, I'll probably be happy.

 

[mStudios]

Okay, I get it that a lot of people on NeoGAF seem to dislike the character and his fans, but doesn't that sound even a wee bit harsh over a video game character and people's preferences? Take a chill pill, man.

This is why I don't want back on the train.

You shoudln't take my statement as literal lol

I welcome (and buy) any smash DLC.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Ganondorf will forever be an aspiring F-Zero Racer. Especially if we are all correct in thinking there will be an NX version of Smash which is basically an upgraded version of Smash 4 Wii U/3DS. I think it's getting too hopeful thinking there might be new characters, and downright silly they'd overhaul any unless it was needed for balance.

Ganondorf is a piece of shit compared to the rest of the cast, I'm not talking about completely reworking his moveset but giving him buffs, fixing at least some of his frame data, giving him more options would be great. This applies to other characters too- Zelda, Jigglypuff, etc.

 

[dangeraaron10]

You shoudln't take my statement as literal lol

I welcome (and buy) any smash DLC.

It sure sounded harsh, and I didn't really pick up on any hyperbole or sarcasm at all, so my mistake for misconstruing it.

Ganondorf is a piece of shit compared to the rest of the cast, I'm not talking about completely reworking his moveset but giving him buffs, fixing at least some of his frame data, giving him more options would be great. This applies to other characters too- Zelda, Jigglypuff, etc.

Ah. I'm so used to people on Smashboards clamoring for a full on rework of Ganondorf and giving him his sword from Twilight Princess or something. Something like THAT, I could see them doing, maybe. But I wouldn't bet on it.

 

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It sure sounded harsh, and I didn't really pick up on any hyperbole or sarcasm at all, so my mistake for misconstruing it.



Ah. I'm so used to people on Smashboards clamoring for a full on rework of Ganondorf and giving him his sword from Twilight Princess or something. Something like THAT, I could see them doing, maybe. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Oh, yeah lol. I think at this point Ganondorf is always going to be a C.Falcon clone but that doesn't mean he has to stay terrible.

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besides we don't need another sword user