April 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes May 10th

Ōkami

Member
I remember this magical times known as the 1990s when Star Fox could sell on par with Metal Gear Solid.

Now it'll likely sell less than games released two months prior.
 

Fat4all

Banned
I'm suprised they haven't kept the price $299.

Think about it like this, I'm sure they now intend to have it at $299 for the holidays and include some games, but the PS4 will assuredly also be $299 and include some games. So it's just a repeat of last holiday, except without Halo.

I dunno, after this I'm pretty confident in official pricing changes come E3, either just to make it more attractive or because they have a new console as well.
 

Fat4all

Banned
There'll be a Halo. (Wars 2)

And this year's blockbuster equivalent is Gears anyway.

I suppose a $299 Gears 4 bundle would do good, as long as they don't do the weird premium bundle and sell it for 400 or sommit, like they did with Halo.

I don't have much confidence in Halo Wars 2, but I'm getting it on PC.
 
There'll be a Halo. (Wars 2)

And this year's blockbuster equivalent is Gears anyway.

It's so strange but I've been thinking about Gears 4 and I'd almost be surprised now if it doesn't open much better then Halo 5.

I feel like the marketing for the game is just better. Where as Halo 5 marketing was kinda bad, sometimes cringe worthy and failed to attract casuals sufficiently.

Just feels weird being so confident in a prediction like this given that I never would've imagined this scenario a year ago.
 
[3DS] 110k
[PS4] 245k
[WIU] 45k
[XB1] 180K

May change later. Now sure how things will land, but Ratchet and Clank will out do Quantum Break and Star Fox... combined. Without bundles, of course.
 
I'm suprised they haven't kept the price $299.

Think about it like this, I'm sure they now intend to have it at $299 for the holidays and include some games, but the PS4 will assuredly also be $299 and include some games. So it's just a repeat of last holiday, except without Halo.

I dunno, after this I'm pretty confident in official pricing changes come E3, either just to make it more attractive or because they have a new console as well.
PSVR could make the holiday season interesting.
 

Welfare

Member
Update on that gift card deal. Lasts until the 28th, so again, right at the end of the tracking period for May.

There is so going to be an official drop to $299 either right before or at E3. Hell, they made the $349 price official the week before E3 last year.
 
OMG Street Fighter didn't chart!!!1!1!!1!!!!1!!!!1!!!1 :p :p :p :p :p
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lol
 

CoG

Member
Xbox One Slim at E3, shipping for stores at the same day, $299. I bet that's the plan.

That's less than a month away would have been assembly line leaks if so. I've not seen a major CE part yet that was not get leaked by Chinese assembly workers.
 

Welfare

Member
That's less than a month away would have been assembly line leaks if so. I've not seen a major CE part yet that was not get leaked by Chinese assembly workers.

360 slim didn't get a leak until the day of E3 thanks to some Italian website, and Microsoft seems to have a tight knot on hardware getting leaked.
 
With PS4Neo almost being a certainty, do you think we will also see a slim version of the basic PS4?
Normally a slim would make sense. Refreshing the look, saving on weight and space for productions and shipments, maybe even saving actual costs in productions. On the other hand PSVR and Neo take a lot of planning, logistic and R&D resources, so it might be too much. Plus, the PS4 is already quite slim.

Some predictions:
Starfox will chart, higher than Bravely Second
GTA5 will be higher than Quantum Break
MSPR will mention Windows10, Gears of War, XboxOne, Quantum Break and MAU
Sony PR will mention Uncharted, Ratchet, Dark Souls, VR and E3
Minecraft will not chart
Dark Souls will be first, Ratchet second
PS4 will sell as much as xboxone and WiiU combined +/- 10%
 

ethomaz

Banned
Here we go...

PS4 will be up not due new releases but due how low it did last year... I expect 210k.
Xbone in my view will stay flat but it will hold the smaller gap against PS4 for 2016 (I'm prediction all 2016 here)... 190k.
Wii U will be a little up... 45k.
3DS will be up yoy because I like big emotions... 130k.

[3DS] 130k
[PS4] 210k
[WIU] 45k
[XB1] 190k

Bold predictions...

- Ethomaz won't be first
- SFV > 40k
- DS3 will be first with > 400k
- R&C > 250k > QB > 150k
 

le.phat

Member
[3DS] 117K
[PS4] 149K
[WIU] 34K
[XB1] 129K


  • Xb1 does a great job stipulating its monthly beating with the unofficial price cut / QB combo.
  • That said, QB's sales performance will be really underwhelming. Expecting it to get punted by both MLB and R&C
  • PS4 will see a small YoY bump, thanks to the extra momemtum built by MLB and R&C
  • Ds3 will do better then 2, but not significantly. Heavily slanted towards PS4.
 

Conduit

Banned
Also, Uncharted 4 claimed top 5 in April on Amazon.com ( 12th place in January ). Now it's at 1st place for a few days now ( a week before release ). I know, i know. it's Amazon. But whatever. Just for reference, Halo 5 wasn't that high in September on Amazon.com ( and we all know how it ended ) like Uncharted 4 was in April and now before release. Yep, launch will be huge. And i really mean damn huge!

Abdiel, what are the preorders for U4 in your district?
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Wii U will obvious be down but the drop will be better than last year... 50k.

But you predict Wii U up YOY... ???

Also 3DS up YOY would be pretty damn good, i don't see that happening. Though last two months you predicted 170-177K, and both predictions were super spot on while all other predictions were way pecsimist, so i just wait and see what's happen. :p
 

Elandyll

Banned
Also, Uncharted 4 claim top 5 in April on Amazon.com ( 12th place in January ). Now it's at 1st place for a few days now ( a week before release ). I know, i know. it's Amazon. But whatever. Just for reference, Halo 5 wasn't that high in September on Amazon.com ( and we all know how it ended ) like Uncharted 4 was in April and now before release. Yep, launch will be huge. And i really mean damn huge!

Abdiel, what are the preorders for U4 in your district?
Cmon Abdiel, you KNOW you want to answer " Off the CHARTS" on that one ;)
 

Abdiel

Member
Also, Uncharted 4 claimed top 5 in April on Amazon.com ( 12th place in January ). Now it's at 1st place for a few days now ( a week before release ). I know, i know. it's Amazon. But whatever. Just for reference, Halo 5 wasn't that high in September on Amazon.com ( and we all know how it ended ) like Uncharted 4 was in April and now before release. Yep, launch will be huge. And i really mean damn huge!

Abdiel, what are the preorders for U4 in your district?

I'll have to see if I can get more specific numbers, but it's doing really well. I don't remember how the last of us did for preorders, but our Sony rep was pleased as punch the last time he was here. Both for U4 and r and c.

Even the limited bundle is doing pretty well. Making it an actual limited system that's styled helps. It's a collector's item without being too expensive.
 
I'll have to see if I can get more specific numbers, but it's doing really well. I don't remember how the last of us did for preorders, but our Sony rep was pleased as punch the last time he was here. Both for U4 and r and c.

Even the limited bundle is doing pretty well. Making it an actual limited system that's styled helps. It's a collector's item without being too expensive.
Nice!
 

Rymuth

Member
Software:
Ratchet & Clank >>>> MLB 16 The Show >>>> Quantum Break

Come at me, bros!

  • That said, QB's sales performance will be really underwhelming. Expecting it to get punted by both MLB and R&C
Hmmm, interesting. MLB15 debuted at #4 in April and went to #9 in May. If these predictions come true, then QB could either not chart or make it in by the skin of its teeth.
 

ethomaz

Banned
But you predict Wii U up YOY... ???

Also 3DS up YOY would be pretty damn good, i don't see that happening. Though last two months you predicted 170-177K, and both predictions were super spot on while all other predictions were way pecsimist, so i just wait and see what's happen. :p
Ohhhhhh I checked Wii U wrong numbers... yeap it will be up a little.

To be fair this month is a hard one to predict because there are so little to help sales :(
 

ethomaz

Banned
DAMN. If Ethomaz says it, it must be coming true though.
Nah I'm more confident with QB place than R&C over 250k... I tried to push some bold prediction here.

In any case I really believe R&C > QB after UK numbers but I guess that the common thinking here.
 

Welfare

Member
Ohhhhhh I checked Wii U wrong numbers... yeap it will be up a little.

To be fair this month is a hard one to predict because there are so little to help sales :(

Wii U is easy to predict. Down YoY and will probably have a slightly worse drop in its weekly average since Nintendo are slowing Wii U shipments by a lot this year and last quarter.
 
Wii U is easy to predict. Down YoY and will probably have a slightly worse drop in its weekly average since Nintendo are slowing Wii U shipments by a lot this year and last quarter.

Nintendo had a new game. That's quite unusual. So maybe some people bought the console.
 

Bioshocker

Member
[PS4] 205K
[XB1] 170K
[3DS] 90K
[WIU] 40K

I predict that Quantum Break will disappoint. Top 10, yeah likely, but it probably won't be top 5 and Microsoft will say nothing about sales numbers.
 
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