GarciaHotspur
Member
I mean. There is absolutely no doubt right ?
Please tell me the PS4 Neo upgrades of my PS4 games will be free ?
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AuthenticM
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yes
Impeccable
Member
You'll be charged $40 for up-makes and you'll smile while buying them.
Daredevil.shark
Banned
The thing isn't official yet. So wait. Because speculation won't work for an imaginary product.
ThePeoplesBureau
Member
4.5master
Yours for only $20/20/£20
Yours for only $20/20/£20
As it stands right now, there is literally no guarantee of anything. The product still hasn't been officially acknowledged!
They're not going to outline the restrictions and promises about how they're going to run the two systems concurrently until they actually get some official literature out there about it. (And then, of course, there's always the possibility they'll be embellishing the truth - it'll probably pay to be very attentive as to exactly how things are phrased - but it'll also give you a baseline as to what's actually being presented as on offer here and what you'll get for your purchase.)
They're not going to outline the restrictions and promises about how they're going to run the two systems concurrently until they actually get some official literature out there about it. (And then, of course, there's always the possibility they'll be embellishing the truth - it'll probably pay to be very attentive as to exactly how things are phrased - but it'll also give you a baseline as to what's actually being presented as on offer here and what you'll get for your purchase.)
SJRB
Gold Member
Well my uncle is a janitor at Sony and he told me just yesterday that Playstation VR launches in November, and I totally trust him.
And the answer is yes. Probably. Why wouldn't it?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Most games outside of exclusives probably won't be patched unless the publishers find a way to charge for it.
The question'll boil down to 'will this get us more sales'? And in many cases, long after the peak sales period for a title, I think the answer will be expected to be 'no'.
One exception I can see, though, is first-party stuff; even if it doesn't serve to sell the game more, it will act as a showcase as for what Neo can do, and getting that perception out there rapidly would bolster Sony's case for selling the Neo to the marketplace. I'd be very surprised if Uncharted didn't have a Neo mode.
DownGrader
Member
New Nintendo 3DS improvements in non-New 3DS exclusive games are free, so...
Backfoggen
Banned
Sorry, but specifically you will have to pay. It's free for everyone else.
If I'm not getting a 60fps Bloodborne I'm sticking with my original PS4.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
What's the rule on if a game is getting DLC after the NEO release? Dark Souls has DLC plans all the way into 2017. Will they be required to release a Neo version of the game if they want to keep supporting it?
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Of course.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
They might charge for upgrades to old games, while games built with PS4K in mind wouldn't have any extra charge.
Yeah, I reckon WWS titles generally will get some Neo patching.
From 3rd parties, maybe devs like CDPR and studios with a similar background/outlook on delivering customers value.
I think a lot will depend on how straightforward the job is - if Sony arse up the SDK it'll pretty slim pickings, if it's a relatively low-cost thing to do maybe you'll see some bigger publishers patching their annualised titles.
Neo does not currently exist. We have no idea what policies Sony will have or why. This is like asking what kind of controller Nintendo will have two console generations from now, or whether or not games will be more expensive in the future. We can speculate, sure, but we don't have any concrete information at all.
The best approach is nihilism.
The best approach is nihilism.
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
They aren't gonna sell you a new PS4 and then ask you to buy an update for a game you already own to make it run better. That's just stupid.
I imagine the only thing that is gonna change is that developers will have their games check what hardware it's running on and load up the appropriate settings. For example, If it's on the current PS4 model then it will load one set of textures and keep the framerate locked at 30fps. If it's on the PS4 neo then it will load up another set of (higher quality) textures and unlock the framerate.
Forgive me as I'm not a game developer but I guess it would be just like changing settings in a PC game. You have to do that manually but with PS4 the game will do it automatically based on hardware and maybe they will even give you an option to lower some settings and improve others...exactly like a PC game.
I imagine the only thing that is gonna change is that developers will have their games check what hardware it's running on and load up the appropriate settings. For example, If it's on the current PS4 model then it will load one set of textures and keep the framerate locked at 30fps. If it's on the PS4 neo then it will load up another set of (higher quality) textures and unlock the framerate.
Forgive me as I'm not a game developer but I guess it would be just like changing settings in a PC game. You have to do that manually but with PS4 the game will do it automatically based on hardware and maybe they will even give you an option to lower some settings and improve others...exactly like a PC game.
There is no such thing as a "Neo version."
All titles are written for the baseline model with a Neo mode, according to the leaks. No Neo-only or targetted games.
John Kowalski
Banned
Who knows.
If they actually want to sell a significant number of PS4 NEOs, I hope for them the patches are for free.
Like, "Here's a new full-priced model of PS4 which has more Power in order to play your games and VR experience better through upgrades at an additional cost!"
That would be the dumbest thing ever, and Sony is not that dumb.
Like, "Here's a new full-priced model of PS4 which has more Power in order to play your games and VR experience better through upgrades at an additional cost!"
That would be the dumbest thing ever, and Sony is not that dumb.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
What I meant was would they have to do the legwork to have Dark Souls 3 take advantage of neo via a neo mode so that they can still release DLC after Neos release?
Surely you knew what I meant, come on.
Oh, but it is. Even smaller indie devs are beeing briefed about it
Captain Tuttle
Member
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I get so sick of you people that want bad things to happen just so you can get some cheap entertainment. It's really pathetic.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Yeah I'm not saying there's a neo-only plan for targeting one specific console - I'm talking about games that came before the Neo, the regular PS4 games that are already out and about - were those built with a Neo mode?
JetSetRadio
Banned
They shouldn't look back.
From what we know, no.
But it is also highly unlikely that any older games are going to get patched at all unless they are continually being update like MMOs and such. I'd say unless they are released just before the Neo they simply aren't going to get patched, most developers aren't going to want to go back and throw the game through QA again after they have moved on. I can see the big releases doing it, Naughty Dog for instance seems the most likely candidate that would up Uncharted 4 some more.
Otherwise every game released after a certain point has to be supported in some form I believe, seeing as the new kits have apparently only recently gone out I imagine anything released from now till the Neo is officially out will get patched.
But it is also highly unlikely that any older games are going to get patched at all unless they are continually being update like MMOs and such. I'd say unless they are released just before the Neo they simply aren't going to get patched, most developers aren't going to want to go back and throw the game through QA again after they have moved on. I can see the big releases doing it, Naughty Dog for instance seems the most likely candidate that would up Uncharted 4 some more.
Otherwise every game released after a certain point has to be supported in some form I believe, seeing as the new kits have apparently only recently gone out I imagine anything released from now till the Neo is officially out will get patched.
Jacksinthe
Banned
You pay for each jiggleflop the game is upgraded. I think there's 18 different upgrade models at 3.99 USD each and you need to buy/unlock then through feats of strength in game.
IDK
Monty Mole
Member
Indeed I expect we'll get updates for many first party games and some indie games, but I doubt we'll see the likes of Activision, EA etc making any investment in updating older games for no return.
Hard to imagine many games except those published by Sony will get upgrades, free or otherwise. Especially not for games that have an imminent sequel, or are annual releases.
I doubt anyone will be allowed to charge for upgrades tbh.
Edit: stuff like Destiny and The Division are viable candidates, since they're still generating money.
I doubt anyone will be allowed to charge for upgrades tbh.
Edit: stuff like Destiny and The Division are viable candidates, since they're still generating money.