Sorry, must've misunderstood you, since you quoted a post mentioning Polaris being equivalent to R9 390.
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Sorry, must've misunderstood you, since you quoted a post mentioning Polaris being equivalent to R9 390.
I don't know if it's really a good idea to compare new prices with used prices on GPUs. Buying a used GPU comes with all sorts of tradeoffs. New 980tis still go for 600, though that price is sure to fall.
I was supporting his claim that the initial wave of Polaris GPUs are not going to be high-end cards by citing AMD's comment that they aren't intended to go toe-to-toe with Nvidia's top-tier offerings.
Ok, so this is where you lost me, he claimed a rumor that Polaris 10 would be equivalent to 390, that's not just "not competing with Nvidias" new top-tier offerings, that's hardly even competing with AMD's own CURRENT top tier offering (390x/Fury etc).
That Polaris 10 won't be in the same league as 1080/1070 is pretty given (just looking at die area alone), so yeah, there I agree with you. But if Polaris is as he claimed, about 390 performance, AMD could almost just close shop.
Well, the matter of a 390esque Polaris GPU being redundant ultimately depends on pricing. If the best Polaris GPU AMD can muster at this juncture is comparable to the 390 and has similar price tag (a cursory glance at Amazon tells me that the RRP of the 390 is USD$400), then, yeah, that'd be quite bizarre, but otherwise it wouldn't be a completely pointless product.
There's no room nor demand for mid tier cards? After all these cards (Polaris 10) will likely be priced around $200.
Apparently that table is just someone's predictions rather than a leak.
What I would expect would be for it to be priced roughly in line with the card it is replacing. If you price it like a 980ti, people will compare it to a 980ti and then it starts looking more like an OK update, rather than the 'ooh nice' update it would have been if compared to a 980
I guess I missed the downturn.. Last I saw everyone was excited at having a new top performer (1080), as well as a new good value card (1070)
I have a 970 and a 1440p Gsync monitor +Vive so I am happily going to buy one of the cards, but haven't decided which.
The founders edition thing is definitely lame, but doesn't sour me on the overall line.
I have a 970 and a 1440p Gsync monitor +Vive so I am happily going to buy one of the cards, but haven't decided which.
The founders edition thing is definitely lame, but doesn't sour me on the overall line.
Contrary to popular belief, mid tier GPUs are (by far) the biggest market. (We can all lose a little bit of perspective as enthusiasts.)
The unstated goal for both AMD and Nvidia is a $150 GPU that's capable of entry-level VR (eg. 290/970). It's up in the air right now if we'll hit that price point this generation.
most of the cards I checked were bought in late 2015 and all come with vendor/shop warranty.
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I think we have one more chance to preorder.
The price should reflect that though.
I mean $699 for a 980 replacement with reference design is pretty steep. If it's going to be priced like a Ti then people will compare it to a Ti.
They just want to always have a card that costs that much, even if it isn't a replacement for previous hen's top model. This price slot will be taken by the Ti version when it comes out and that would make sense considering how much it would offer over 980Ti. But something tells me 1080Ti will costs even more a with its HBM2 and what not.
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When it comes to AMD, I'll believe anything. They have already stated they aren't shooting for the high end with Polaris 10/11 and even after Nvidia has announced the 1070/1080 they haven't made any noises to the contrary. This is the same silence that occurred after Nvidia announced the 980 Ti and the Fury X had not been announced yet.
Apoleptica
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those specs actually seem very plausible, same with the prices.
In Sweden you can't pre-order it seems like.
Founders Edition cards are up for pre-order at NetOnNet and CDON (according to prisjakt that is).
7699:- so I think I'll wait for custom cards anyway.
Edit: nevermind, apparently you can only put them on a wishlist thing.
^ Yes to your edit. And before it said "Goes on sale 27/5 15:00"
If the prices of the partner cards are just as bad (or worse), I might just sit this one out and wait for the 1080ti if they want me to pay almost 8k SEK for a GPU. Heck, saving up for a Titan at that point almost makes more sense if that comes in at around 10-11k.
That's the thing according to Nvidia partner cards would be cheaper, but I'm not sure partners would go for the lower MSRP when seeing Nvidia's own cards can get away with a $100 premium for nothing at all.
Still, rather have a partnercard for ~7500 SEK than a reference card for that price. And I need a new GPU for VR asap, so I can't really sit it out anymore (HD7970... Reference)
If this rumor is true - Any guesses on release month? And does Nvidia reveal this month before release or do they like with 1080 like weeks before?
Ignoring the 980ti's with waterblocks and cards on sale right now, the difference between the cheapest and the most expensive is around 100 on inet.se. For the most expensive one you get the hybrid cooling, if I could get that for around the same price as the FE version I'm definitely gonna go for it.
So in a best case scenario the "599" will be the baseline and when you get up to FE pricing you should be able to get a card with a good cooler. Unfortunately this will probably not happen though..
In theory they should be cheaper as the MSRP is 599 instead of 699 like it is for founders.
Yep, hoping for the best.
According to Nvidia, the MSRP for custom cards is $599, their own Founders Edition is $699. So going by that, no they shouldn't be.
Some of us are speculating though, that AIB's will see the FE sell for $100 more, with worse cooling, and figure they can take the same (if not more) for their custom cards.
that MSI 980Ti @ 5999:- is tempting, ~21% cheaper than 1080RE
980Ti @ 1400MHz is 10% slower
But say a custom cooler version of 1080 comes at and say it's priced higher than the MSRP, say it's priced at FE levels, would still be a better purchase (considering overlocking, IF it's got a good cooler on, which most custom ones have).
And here I am, still with a GTX 550ti...
I'm planning an enthusiast build. i7-5960X, 32gigs DDR4 3400, X99A GODlike mobo... and I WAS going to get the MSI GeForce GTX 980ti... But perhaps I should get a 1080 instead.
Let's hope it comes in red so it can match my color theme.
I'm planning an enthusiast build. i7-5960X, 32gigs DDR4 3400, X99A GODlike mobo... and I WAS going to get the MSI GeForce GTX 980ti... But perhaps I should get a 1080 instead.
Let's hope it comes in red so it can match my color theme.
Wait until an aftermarket 1080 comes out
That way, you can be assured that it can OC properly.The_Inquisitor
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I've got a 560ti so I understand your pain. We both need to wait for aftermarket cards I think to guarantee good OC per some early benchmarks.
I still don't get this. 3rd party and even FE are going to be able to OC some, so it won't be 10%. The 1080 will gain the % back with an overclock, be it AIB or a more limited OC on FE, they're still going to OC and gain back some of that diff. Unless I'm missing something?
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Nothing will use more than 8Gb for the next couple of years (with the exception of Star Citizen).
Which one can OC higher? I also use my GPU for a few CUDA-calculation applications...
roadrunn3r
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Indeed, the amount of attention the high end GPUs get on this forum is not representative of PC gaming market at all. People who dismiss Polaris/1060 cause "only 390 performance boring" are very shortsighted. On the other hand this a thread about the 1080 so it's normal we are talking about it more. A lot of people, me included, are not interested at all in a 1080 and just follow the thread to get informed about Pascal in general. I'd always continue to buy mainstream cards even if I had money to throw away.
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Wait a minute. Why would you purposely buy mainstream cards even if you had money to throw away? Do you enjoy running games at low resolutions and detail levels? This doesn't make any sense. If I had money to throw away, you better damn well believe I would own 4 Porsches and 2 yachts. One of the yachts would have a helipad where I park my helicopter. This isn't even a matter of debate.
roadrunn3r
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It's an exaggeration to express my dislike for the current high end prices and the fact that I've always preferred value over absolute performance. But yea, if I really had money to throw away I would get 2 of these in SLI so you got me there.
It's not a leak. Not even a rumour.
dgrdsv
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What does it matter to you if it's HBM or DDR5X or KJDSLG memory if it provides a good enough performance increase?
who cares.. look how much HBM helped Fury
(also this is just something someone made up, but that said, I am 95% sure you wont see a Pascal consumer chip with HBM)
i know that its not HBMs memory bandwidth that "doomed" fury, but the lack of memory + other things... don't use technology before its ready, GDDR5X is ready, available and pretty fast, it even exists in faster speed grades then used in the gtx1080
Go for Vega then.
If it does release in October, and performance is expected to be between the 1080 and what we expect the 1080Ti to be, then im going for that if its $599.
I'm into custom wc and small form factor. HBM2 is way better than gddr5 in that regard.
Vega and dx12/vulkan helping out amd frametimes and overhead does sound interesting actually, but I'm all in gsync for now.
I was about to buy a g-sync monitor as well, but im hearing that companies are now starting to make monitors with both freesync and g-sync included.
I wanna cover my arse, and wait for those. I dont wanna be locked into a brand.
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SolidSnakeUS
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Reading that leak... even though I'd love a 1080, I'd be afraid to get one because of the Ti coming. And on top of that, a new HBM2 card next year that could be better than all them... goddamnit...