Polygon: Xbox Scorpio will be a ~6 TFLOP system (v PS4K's 4.14), unveil soon, Fall 17
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jeff_rigby
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Anyone who reads the cites = almost no one......
In the papers it also has a third tier power level for 2017 = NEO & Scorpio and a Fourth for 2019 which would be the next shrink and/or console.
justsomeguy
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I previously thought they would talk scorpion at e3, to steal the neo announce thunder. Changed my mind now - they just need to announce Scorpion before neo ships. Let Sony undermine ps4 sales with an announce of a console months away ( if indeed it is) then go balls-out later this year on Scorpion, in depth (naturally hurting xb1 sales, but hopefully stopping xb1 users jumping to neo and also spoiling the neo launch a bit)
Yes, people should read the papers.
Possibly but greater risk of confusing customers around the time they buy most consoles even if it isn't aimed at price conscious prospective Xbox One owners. Getting it out now is a shock but enough time for this to calm down. I guess that's why Sony will announce Neo sooner rather than later. Lay the cards out early so no knee jerk reactions happen.
They are pretty big papers though
MilkyJoe
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'Ooo iz zis Jeff character?
Obscuritas
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Neo won't be revealed at E3, and I hardly see how Microsoft can prevent their users from going to the other side, as this is already happening since the beginning of this generation. They'll launch a slim model,ok, but that seems redundant with the upcoming Scorpio sku.
Someone talks like Microsoft is leading 2:1.
Art Vandilay
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I don't see how having a high end option as well as a budget conscious option is redundant. This way you can play games without spending much, or you can play them in higher fidelity with and have VR capability. Assuming this is all true, of course.
MaulerX
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They can still announce it at E3 along with a trade-in/upgrade program. Say something like 30%-50% off. People can feel compelled to get a Slim now, build a decent library of games, then upgrade fully knowing that their library would carry over to the Scorpio.
CrimsonEclipse
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That would be great if they did that, give a huge incentive to upgrade as well as possibly create a lot of buzz and good-will to fans (though I'm sure the announcement of any new system will create buzz on it's own).
There are people that expect that?
Obscuritas
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Sorry I didn't want to devalue the possible "core - premium model" scenario, but announcing 2 new sku in few months seems way too risky and a bit confusing to me (while Sony has just 1 upcoming sku).
Team Klimt
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Subsidized phones and trade in deals are a huge part of why the iterative phone system works. If these rumors prove true, and MS or Sony can figure out a way to do one of those things it would certainly help adoption of the newest consoles.
For sure I would expect some kind of effort to that effect if they try to push VR adoption specifically. Shit's gonna be expensive!
Team Klimt
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How do those 6tf specs line up with Occulus minspec?
How is it confusing. The new one is just a Xbox One slim which comes out in 2016. The other 20117.
When Apple comes out with two new phones are you confused?
justsomeguy
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Odd statement...
Regardless - my point was about retaining the users you have... if XB users who are already wobbly about PS4 having more power, see the NEO launching that takes it further ahead... and MS have no answer... then intuitively they're more likely to jump ship.
apple's been doing it for almost 10 years. this is all new for consoles. consumers won't immediately just say "we smart phones now" and roll with it. some people will be confused
Dude, are you telling me you are going to be confused by a Xbox One slim and a higher end Xbox? The phone is just an example.
Metalingus5150
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Microsoft is desperate tho. lol
me? no but I'm a card carrying enthusaist gafer. regular people may get confused
Art Vandilay
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This is what I don't get. There's a cheap box that plays all the games, and a more expensive box that plays them better. Either way, you can still play all games.
Obscuritas
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Well, a Slim early-adopter could possibly become upset when they'll annonunce the premium model just after few months from the slim launch. Sony clearly has an advantage here, cause their OG sku is de facto a slim model.
If the normal consumer can tell the difference between tabs, pc, tv, and phones you aren't giving them enough credit. Gamers aren't idiots.
rokkerkory
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Sony has the advantage clearly
Art Vandilay
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What if they're announced simultaneously? The slim model may very well just be the basic box that's intended for budget conscious consumers.
qa_engineer
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390X and 980 level of performance, so more than capable of running everything at high settings.
If you are holding out for the higher end console you will hold out and buy that. If you don't care about high end games or vr you will buy the slim model.
Art Vandilay
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Exactly. I really don't get how this is confusing.
...Scatter...
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It tickles me that MS fucked up by focusing on Kinect this gen so Sony is preparing to squander their advantage by focusing on PSVR. It's like they take turns being dipshits. Luckily from what we're hearing MS gaming division is pulling their head out of their ass now and creating a GAMING machine again with Scorpio. Looking forward to it.
Exactly. I love how gamers become dumb to technology all of a sudden. It's so weird?
For real. I know this a thread and speculation is a fun part of it. But I question whether some of the posters here are fans with blinders on. Have any of you worked with logistics or supply chain before? There is so much conjecture.
Trade In's, incentives, buy backs....
Are we talking about car dealarships or consoles?
this is assuming they know a higher end console is on the way. they might not, they just walked into a store and bought an xbox
'regular people' buy way more phones than consoles.
what's your point?
Dee Dah Dave
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Microsoft will just announce / show all the cool games yet to come on XB1, and it's new slim form and attractive price. Then tease the Scorpio, stating that all your games come with you and there's no better time to buy into the Xbox ecosystem. Blah blah blah.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
What are we going throught every case where a consumer will be or won't be confused? Let's just wait for E3.
it's fun to discuss and theorize is all man, I hope I'm not coming off as a jerk or something. I just like talking about video games
Regular people aren't idiots.
who said they were?
I would say pretty well, since the min requirements are a gtx 970 (4.5tf) and a R290 (4.8tf).
Hawk269
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If they did do this at E3, they need to be Crystal Clear about that messaging that all software someone buys today will work on the newer system. It will not be enough for Phil to stand there and say it, it needs to have a Power Point on the big screen behind him re-enforcing what he is saying. If they can guarantee and not only verbally but have a screen with the text saying it, I think that will be compelling and relieve concerns people have.