KinofChaos
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Yeah but if a sony studio is working on CRASH, that is one less IP they could be trying to foster.
Sony E3 2016 Press Conference: June 13 at 6 PM PT/ 9PM ET
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Yeah but if a sony studio is working on CRASH, that is one less IP they could be trying to foster.
Lol, that's the thing, I think that shirt was simply for the thing in your spoiler tag. And the thing in your spoiler tag isSeriously though, where have you been half the time when all this was happening?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ERv3FF_GYQY9TyLSu2b5PJu-vMcGCJSTR0MSyN8IgU/pub
Also,you can play Crash Bandicoot in Uncharted 4 TWICE.
a cool easter egg for ND fans and nothing more since Sony owns the rights for the PS1 titles.
It's not an Easter egg,
you're forced to play it TWICE.
surprising easter egg inside Uncharted 4.
Activision has blocked Sony from using Crash several times before, even on Crash stuff from the PS1 games (that ND fan art contest), and that's because Sony has distribution rights, NOT IP rights. Or at least, they DIDN'T have IP rights. They may now, either a license or, less likely, full ownership.
According to Anthony Carboni, he talked to Shawn about that shirt admitting he wanted to talk the future of Crash with Activision. I really don't see him Eric having a meeting just for a damn
Easter egg
https://youtu.be/WezpJc7wITo
Starts at 4:45
Blackleg-sanji1
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Crash is happening the moment it showed up where it did should've been obvious hint, considering the following year they couldn't even put him in their artbook.
DriftingSpirit
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How many resources would Crash really be taking? It isn't as if it will be a big AAA title that takes 3-4 years to make.
And the several insider teases?
I also like to throw out that Sony DOESN'T own the rights to the crash ps1 titles.
Bruce even said that in an interview.
Bruce even said that in an interview.
Tons of hints by insiders over the past couple of years, Shawn's shirt at PSX, and
Crash Bandicoot 1 in Uncharted 4 which means that Activision has already negotiated with ND/SIE once regarding the franchise.
Let's just say, there's been more hints than there were for TLG, FF7 and Shenmue 3.
Oh well, I was wrong. Thanks for the info guys. So yeah Crash is coming back, most likely developed by some C-tier team.
Dude, that was the reason why Crash plummeted in the first place. IE crash of the Titans, CNK2,mind over mutant. Fuck that shit.
Oh well, I was wrong. Thanks for the info guys. So yeah Crash is coming back, most likely developed by some C-tier team.
Who said it could be C-Tier? Sony wouldn't just release a shit game on the market. Quality is important and if they're releasing a game for the 20th anniversary this year then it must've been in developed for quite sometime.
Sanzaru can do it justice with ND consulting the project. Sly 4 was great.
DriftingSpirit
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Why does Crash get people so pressed? lol
Because people want to find any reason to shit on someone for being excited about something.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Who knows its funny tho.
The idea of a new PS4 Crash Bandicoot in the vein of the original trilogy seems like such a waste of talent/time right now, especially if Naughty Dog are making it.
I'd probably be more excited for an original trilogy remake rather than a "for the sake of getting nostalgic fans' rocks off" £20 entry.
I'd probably be more excited for an original trilogy remake rather than a "for the sake of getting nostalgic fans' rocks off" £20 entry.
The Last One
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If a new Crash game isn't a thing I'll be surprised. They aren't even trying to hide it.
get2sammyb
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What if a new Crash Bandicoot was developed by Naughty Dog itself? In my imagination, the new game would be a simple, $20 type experience. ND is a big enough studio that they could spare the 20 or so people it would take to make something like that, surely?
He was excluded in the artbook by PR and various store chains (even the book cover was entirely black) but he made it in with a Activision copyright:
Let it be known that
Activision's ownership and copyrights of the Crash IP are NOWHERE to be seen in the Uncharted 4 credits.
DriftingSpirit
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I just don't get it. If someone is excited for something I am not excited for, I just avoid it or acknowledge that it is something big to be excited about and people are into it. I don't have to like something to be able to understand why people are into something. It is just completely self-centered, egoistic and immature to do what people are doing with stuff like Crash, TLG, FF7R, etc...
Nah, a high quality Crash project wouldn't take much time and talent. It is small relative to those bigger AAA projects.
Were people like this before anyone knew about TLG, FF7R and Shenmue 3 being announced at Sony's E3? I mean, it's like with Crash, people have this revisionist bias that the games were awful and don't deserve to come back.
I played them a bit but I feel the same way.
Thouh if a new one happens, I think it will be more of an actual 3D platformer than the originals, which were essentially runners.
The UC4 version
Crash 1 isn't perfect by any means but
the one playing in Uncharted 4 is just wonky as hell. Even worse than the original.
It's a little rougher in Uncharted 4, to be honest. Part of that is the PS4's d-pad. The DualShock 4's d-pad has some pretty hard edges compared to the controllers before it, making it not ideal for 3D character control. And Crash Bandicoot didn't have stick support. I don't even think the dual analog controller was out at that point, and I guess Naughty Dog wanted to remain true to original game in that regard.
In any case, the first one is the roughest of the original trilogy, and starting on a boulder-chase level isn't a great first impression. 2 is generally the most beloved, and it smooths out the game-play quite a bit.
I understand your point, but I still don't see the appeal at all.
That's fine, but a lot of people do. A new game will not be similar to the PS1 Crash, let alone the
U4 Crash
Incorrect, actually. They have distribution and publishing rights to the original PS1 games. That's why they were able to use it in the game. Also, If they had licensed the right to the PS1 games, they would have had to include Activision in the credits. I believe all these Crash references are just to garner interest in the property so maybe so could talk to Activision about it, but I don't believe a game is in development... yet.
*Facepalms*
That's obviously not what the fans want. We want a game in the graphical fidelity like R&C ps4 with modern controls and gameplay. Not the modernized bs that was CoT. It seems like most of these people only thoroughly played CB1 and not the other 2 where improved the damn controls due to the dualshock 1's 2nd rendition having analog sticks
Sony had a publishing contract for Crash 1, 2, Warped, Team Racing, and Bash.
They have no usage rights for them. And while I can't say for SURE, this contract is presumably the reason that when they distribute the games AS IS, the copyright text is the copyright text that is already listed on the games, with Universal Interactive Studios, as the contract would most likely not be altered thereafter.
There were rumors (which were alluded to in an official capacity somewhere, unless I'm remembering totally wrong) that Activision was the reason it couldn't be put out on Vita in NA regions.
Anybody who has REALLY played the first Crash game can look at the
Uncharted 4 segments and tell you CONFIDENTLY that it's not the same code, and it's only partially the same art. The physics are different, the crates act differently, it's just NOT Crash 1. It's a convincing approximation but it's NOT emulated, and it's NOT ported, which would IMMEDIATELY disqualify them from saying "Hey, we made this one, it's ours" even if they DID have that level of usage rights, which they DO. NOT. HAVE.
If you need any more evidence, Naughty Dog used exclusively art from Crash 1-TR in their Art book. Art that they own and created (and some by Charles Zembillas and Joe Pearson, who are ALSO credited). They still had to credit Activision for their ownership of Crash Bandicoot.
They are using the Crash Bandicoot LOGO. Nate SAYS the WORDS "Crash Bandicoot". Regardless of the game content, the logo and name are Activision's IP regardless.
Another example of Activision's full ownership: The Uncharted 4 segment uses Crash Bandicoot 1 music. This is ACTUALLY the BEST example of how Activision owns the first several games, now that I think of it: Josh Mancell, the composer of the music for Crash 1 through Team Racing, has been trying to work with a label to release the Crash Bandicoot music on CD and digitally -- he has been unable to because Activision has not been working with him. Sony has told him that they do not own the music or content from the games, as well.
If all the content in the first few games was owned by Sony just because they had the publishing and distribution contract, he wouldn't have to jump through all the hoops to deal with Activision to release music HE WROTE. If it was Sony-owned, they'd have been released by now.
No matter who 'made the content' or whether it's new or not, it's ACTIVISION'S PROPERTY under the current trademarks.
The fact they are not listed under the
Uncharted 4 credits
Hey at least I was clear on what my only exposure to the game was.
If the gameplay improved drastically in the later games then that explains a lot.
I'm not against a new game, I actually hope one gets announced for all the people that are clamoring for it.
Hey at least I was clear on what my only exposure to the game was.
If the gameplay improved drastically in the later games then that explains a lot.
I'm not against a new game, I actually hope one gets announced for all the people that are clamoring for it.
All in all, people just wanna see more (aside from mario) full fledged 3D platformers make a major comeback rather than small occasional bursts. Personally I'm sick of all these grounded realistic cinematic human based games.
get2sammyb
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I partly disagree. Clearly it needs to control better than the originals, but I think it should be built in the spirit of the originals. That's the way to kick things off.
Gameplay wise, I think it should, for all intents and purposes, be a PSone game with better controls. If they want to get more ambitious with it at a later point, then that's great, too.
If Crash doesn't get announced, the people who said who it wouldn't happen will be everywhere saying "I told you so" & the people who wanted it to happen will be extremely upset.
If Crash does get announced, the people who said it wouldn't happen will be left sitting around wondering "how?", questioning life itself while everyone who wanted it to happen will crash (no pun intended) the GAF servers.
Either way, the world will burn.
If Crash does get announced, the people who said it wouldn't happen will be left sitting around wondering "how?", questioning life itself while everyone who wanted it to happen will crash (no pun intended) the GAF servers.
Either way, the world will burn.
Oh man I wish
I played Crash way back when but it was never a character I cherished though did enjoy, this hype around him is infectious and now want to see him return(especially after UC4) 
Course I'd be more happy with a new mainline Ape Escape announcement. Also Twisted Metal 2, follow up the awesome PS3 release but this time with functional online mp. I loved the character stories and bosses so just go further with that and add more characters.
Course I'd be more happy with a new mainline Ape Escape announcement. Also Twisted Metal 2, follow up the awesome PS3 release but this time with functional online mp. I loved the character stories and bosses so just go further with that and add more characters.I also want that too. The originals had that classic Looney tunes/Hannah Barbera esque vibe. The one after the ND games slowly lost that factor. I think with how animation is this gen, I think it will be able to showcase that way better.
KinofChaos
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I don't know could be a lot or little, it's all speculation. I would assume if they do crash they want to go pretty big.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I played Crash way back when but it was never a character I cherished though did enjoy, this hype around him in infectious and I really want to see him return(especially after UC4)
somecrazymember
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Reasons why Crash is happening:
- Tease in PS4 launch video (all other games like SFV etc came true, Crash is the last one left)
- Insiders on GAF teasing it several times.
- Shawn wearing a Crash shirt.
- Crash playable in U4
- Last years E3 is proof that Sony listens.
- Tease in PS4 launch video (all other games like SFV etc came true, Crash is the last one left)
- Insiders on GAF teasing it several times.
- Shawn wearing a Crash shirt.
- Crash playable in U4
- Last years E3 is proof that Sony listens.
haha, youre a bold kid man.
Blackleg-sanji1
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The best mascot Sony had. Come at me crash,spyro,sackboy,jumping flash whoever else fans
DriftingSpirit
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Right, but it is a platformer. It obviously isn't going to take as long as something like Uncharted 4, for example, even if they make it fairly big.
Basically, I think it is something that could be developed alongside a bigger project. It isn't the sort of thing that would be completely devoted to for 3-4 years.
We'll see once it is announced in a few weeks though.
Edit - TeamApeEscape all day and every day!!!
Blackleg-sanji1
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Right, but it is a platformer. It obviously isn't going to take as long as something like Uncharted 4, for example, even if they make it fairly big.
Basically, I think it is something that could be developed alongside a bigger project. It isn't the sort of thing that would be completely devoted to for 3-4 years.
We'll see once it is announced in a few weeks though.
Edit - TeamApeEscape all day and every day!!!
Sony u know what to do The team is still around get to it
Also that toy convention saying Sony is bringing back Crash.
Honey Bunny
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Seriously though, where have you been half the time when all this was happening?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ERv3FF_GYQY9TyLSu2b5PJu-vMcGCJSTR0MSyN8IgU/pub
Also,you can play Crash Bandicoot in Uncharted 4 TWICE.
Man it would be so cool if you put what game you were spoiling before your spoiler tags
Right there with ya. Love the trilogy especially AE2, and to this day the Snake V Monkey is the best guest appearance/easter egg I ever witnessed.
Blackleg-sanji1
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